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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:28 PM Apr 2016

So Hillary picked a date for debate. Problem is:.

Bernie Sanders' campaign on Hillary Clinton's proposed dates for a New York debate said:

'Unfortunately, the dates and venues she has proposed don't make a whole lot of sense.
The idea that they want a debate in New York on a night of the NCAA finals -- with Syracuse in the tournament no less -- is ludicrous.
We have proposed other dates which they have rejected' -
http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/2016-us-elections/
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So Hillary picked a date for debate. Problem is:. (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Apr 2016 OP
He also rejected the 14th and 15th of April. And the 4th was put up so the people of Wisconson hrmjustin Apr 2016 #1
I can't find anything about either of those dates. Do you have a cite for it? cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #5
From earlier on twitter today. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #6
Thanks. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #12
You too. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #18
It takes a Hillary supporter to post the full story itsrobert Apr 2016 #20
. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #24
Bernie proposed dates before Hillary did. She rejected those dates. It goes both ways... think Apr 2016 #29
But Hillary isn't playing metroins Apr 2016 #59
Doesn't Fallon work for Clinton? Sorry, I'll wait to hear from others on what Sanders people really Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #23
And what Brian Fallon is true? Depaysement Apr 2016 #36
This should not be this hard. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #37
LOL noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #38
Seems fine here in NY to me. Most people do their taxes before the deadline. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #40
LOL noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #41
Have you ever driven by a main post office on tax day? Ours in San Francisco stays open Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #60
Tax deadline this year is April 18. n/t tammywammy Apr 2016 #49
Hillary and her little games CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #53
Ok no need to be condescending Depaysement Apr 2016 #43
I don't think that Brian guy is that reliable hootinholler Apr 2016 #65
Isn't she having her "early bird special" dinner with the Clooney's on the 15th? (eom) mak3cats Apr 2016 #15
I have no idea but a debate would take precidence. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #16
A debate take precedence over a haul of $353,400 per couple? mak3cats Apr 2016 #19
Common sense would say yes because her side proposed the date. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #22
No more debates. Dawson Leery Apr 2016 #46
hahaha, so typical!!! kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #2
Once again trying to make sure as few people see it as possible. TDale313 Apr 2016 #3
Can't have anyone actually watch the debate. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #4
What?? Why shouldn't the debates be on Christmas and dana_b Apr 2016 #7
They're COUNTING on us being stupid...[n/t] Maedhros Apr 2016 #11
No noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #39
Debates are usually rebroadcast an hour or so later, so what's the problem? oasis Apr 2016 #8
No big deal. The ratings would tank if held during the NCAA finals. That's a big deal. think Apr 2016 #10
First, Bernie supporters whined because there were not enough debates oasis Apr 2016 #14
You do understand the reason to have a debate is to get your message out right? Would you purposely think Apr 2016 #25
Sometimes schedules conflict. If you cannot see it LIVE, see it later. oasis Apr 2016 #35
Doesn't it bother you, always having to make excuses for things like this? Marr Apr 2016 #44
Excuses are all they have, and they will twist themselves into any illogical shape n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #55
1 big reason to have debates is to get the Democratic message out to the widest audience possible think Apr 2016 #45
On the night of the NCAA finals, I doubt anyone will have a presidential debate on their Karma13612 Apr 2016 #17
Then if Syracuse doesn't make it to the final game, problem solved. oasis Apr 2016 #27
Other days were offered metroins Apr 2016 #61
Final score: North Carolina 83, Syracuse 66. NY free to view debate. oasis Apr 2016 #66
The Clintonites DO Think That ...WE ARE ALL STUPID! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #9
wait--Hillary was born in Ohio? I thought she was born in Illinois nt TheDormouse Apr 2016 #28
gee whiz desmiller Apr 2016 #13
Maybe she'll compromise to have it in Juke Joint on payday 2 hours before closing time. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #21
April 18 is tax day so 14th should be ok MattP Apr 2016 #26
+1 itsrobert Apr 2016 #31
The way this thing is going... Jennylynn Apr 2016 #30
lol..she proposed the night of the NCAA finals?..Was it her or DWS? It just gets funnier and funnier EndElectoral Apr 2016 #32
Scheduling during NCAA finals is not respectful felix_numinous Apr 2016 #33
Other days were offered metroins Apr 2016 #62
How embarrassing for HRC. Pathetic. Nt stillwaiting Apr 2016 #34
What happened to anytime, anywhere? woolldog Apr 2016 #42
she meant as long as nobody is watching mhatrw Apr 2016 #48
no I meant Bernie...why is he whining about the time and date woolldog Apr 2016 #50
you see... Bernie actually thinks the people have a right cui bono Apr 2016 #54
Why are you whining about his opinion of the schedule? arcane1 Apr 2016 #56
why are you whining about me whining about Bernie whining? woolldog Apr 2016 #57
I think I see a rip in the space-time continuum arcane1 Apr 2016 #58
only a crazy person would schedule something for tax day and the day before tax day, greymouse Apr 2016 #47
Taxes are due April 18. n/t tammywammy Apr 2016 #51
It's not tax day MattP Apr 2016 #52
Busted again. She is afraid. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #63
Syracuse is getting their asses kicked by 11 pts at the half. 39-28. oasis Apr 2016 #64
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. He also rejected the 14th and 15th of April. And the 4th was put up so the people of Wisconson
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

could see it.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
6. From earlier on twitter today.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

Hannah Chanpong ?@hannahfc · 4m4 minutes ago  Moonachie, NJ

In a statement, @brianefallon says the Clinton camp offered 3 dates for a NY debate - 4/5, 4/14 & 4/15 - and Sanders camp rejected all 3.

Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon · 7m7 minutes ago

At this point, it seems like Sanders camp is more interested in having fake excuses to attack Hillary Clinton than actually debating in NY

Brian Fallon ?@brianefallon · 46s46 seconds ago

We were told Sanders was willing to debate on @GMA. Then when we accepted, he balked. Wld be bigger audience than recent nighttime debates

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
20. It takes a Hillary supporter to post the full story
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:58 PM
Apr 2016

thanks for caring.

Deception is Bernie's campaign middle name.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
59. But Hillary isn't playing
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016

Dirty politics.

Sanders is.

Acting and promoting the idea that she only chose the NCAA finals is disingenuous.

Nanjeanne

(5,002 posts)
23. Doesn't Fallon work for Clinton? Sorry, I'll wait to hear from others on what Sanders people really
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

said and/or rejected

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
36. And what Brian Fallon is true?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:21 PM
Apr 2016

How do we know that? Sorry, being HRC ps doesn't add to his credibility.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
37. This should not be this hard.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:24 PM
Apr 2016

Fallon reported to the media that the Hillary camp proposed 3 dates. April 4,14,and 15. One of those dates also had an invitation from Good Morning America to debate which the HRC camp accepted but the Sanders camp rejected.

Not really hard to understand.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
38. LOL
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:28 PM
Apr 2016

NCAA final, tax time and a Good Morning America debate when most people would be at work. Come on. This is not a legitimate negotiation this is Kabuki Theatre.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
41. LOL
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

I guess you're an expert on that? What no Gallup poll to back it up? Maybe Clinton supporters who get their accountants to do their taxes wouldn't mind but the every day taxpayer?

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
60. Have you ever driven by a main post office on tax day? Ours in San Francisco stays open
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:31 PM
Apr 2016

until midnight. They have postal workers lined up curbside with bins. It's a zoo.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
53. Hillary and her little games
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

Why are we not surprised?

Can she be authentic for one nanosecond?

She's like a child. She can't even negotiate a debate in good faith. She gives three ridiculous options, then takes to social media, "He won't debate me!!!! He's being mean!!!! He's the problem!!!"

Oh Hillary...

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
43. Ok no need to be condescending
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:39 PM
Apr 2016

I just read Fallon's tweets for the last few days. He never said Sanders rejected all three dates. He said Sanders hadn't accepted. That might mean they haven't decided yet. And the OP made it sounded like he proposed or accepted GMA and then backed out.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
3. Once again trying to make sure as few people see it as possible.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016


And then claiming Bernie rejected her "good-faith" efforts to agree on a date. Typical

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
7. What?? Why shouldn't the debates be on Christmas and
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

the night of Fourth of July too?

She must think we're all stupid.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
39. No
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:30 PM
Apr 2016

She's counting on her supporters to be that stupid so that they go out and defend those dates. She knew the Sanders supporters would catch it.

oasis

(49,418 posts)
8. Debates are usually rebroadcast an hour or so later, so what's the problem?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:37 PM
Apr 2016

Those who are truly interested can tape the debate or tune in after the game. No big deal.

oasis

(49,418 posts)
14. First, Bernie supporters whined because there were not enough debates
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

now they complain about the scheduling of additional debates.

Hey, maybe the DNC should check with the NCAA before the next election.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
25. You do understand the reason to have a debate is to get your message out right? Would you purposely
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

suggest holding a debate on the same night as a MAJOR sporting event if you wanted to make sure as many people as possible would get to see it?

There is a reason they don't hold debates on super Bowl Sunday. It's called common sense...

oasis

(49,418 posts)
35. Sometimes schedules conflict. If you cannot see it LIVE, see it later.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

Rebroadcast, TIVO, whatever. What's the big deal about it being live?

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
44. Doesn't it bother you, always having to make excuses for things like this?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

She doesn't want to debate at all, but if she must, she wants the audience to be as small as possible, because she doesn't do well in debates against Sanders. Her numbers drop.

We both know that's the fact-- why pretend otherwise? It's a reasonable position for her campaign to take, if not exactly an admirable one.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
45. 1 big reason to have debates is to get the Democratic message out to the widest audience possible
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

This isn't about whether either of us can Tivo a debate. It's about generating viewers. This is free advertising for the Democratic message.

If someone in marketing was offered time slots on TV and could choose prime time with no competing events or opposite a major national event which would they choose?




Karma13612

(4,554 posts)
17. On the night of the NCAA finals, I doubt anyone will have a presidential debate on their
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:55 PM
Apr 2016

mind, before, during or after the game.

especially when Syracuse NY is on the ticket.

And the NY debate is well, in NY.

Yes, big deal.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
9. The Clintonites DO Think That ...WE ARE ALL STUPID!
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

Good Morning America? What about everyone that works during the day?

Hillary wants to hide.... from all the Fracking that she has marketed around the world.. the Wall Street Speeches... and btw, Where was Hillary born? Ohio... So how is it that New York is where she is from? Just because she's a carpetbagger to New York as a crucial step in her personal ambition to become POTUS does not make her from New York. Bernie was born in Brooklyn! So New York is more appropriately his home turf!

Now a bit more TRUTH about Hillary...




Jennylynn

(696 posts)
30. The way this thing is going...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

,it wouldn't surprise me if a debate between Sanders and Clinton actually tanked the ratings of the NCAA finals instead!

Go Democracy!

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
33. Scheduling during NCAA finals is not respectful
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

of potential supporters, she certainly doesn't mind burning bridges, once again divisive.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
50. no I meant Bernie...why is he whining about the time and date
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

He should be happy that she's deigning to debate him at all. A front runner with such a commanding lead as Clinton has right now ought not even acknowledge his existence.

Beggars can't be choosers and he's not in a position to be picky about dates.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
54. you see... Bernie actually thinks the people have a right
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

to hear the candidate's stances on the issues so that they can make an informed decision on such a serious matter. This is why he doesn't want the debate on a night with a huge event already scheduled.

Hillary, on the other hand, seems determined to keep the debates as much out of view as possible, trying to schedule them at times where the least amount of people are able to watch.

So, clearly she is afraid of the people seeing her debate Sanders. That'swhy originally she only wanted the 6 debates DWS had planned, debates that were alsopurposely buried on dates with other huge events taking place.

It's clear that Hillary is afraid of people seeing her debate Sanders for whatever reason. I can think of several.

.

greymouse

(872 posts)
47. only a crazy person would schedule something for tax day and the day before tax day,
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

unless, of course, they were afraid it might happen.

oasis

(49,418 posts)
64. Syracuse is getting their asses kicked by 11 pts at the half. 39-28.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:57 PM
Apr 2016

They won't be playing Monday night. So OP is irrelevant.

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