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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:11 AM Apr 2016

Clinton wants the federal govt to insure biotech companies against losses.

She announced this at the Biotech Conference which was a really lucrative day for Hillary. She pocketed a $335,000 speaker fee. Wow, more than a quarter of a million dollars for a speech. What a payday! I think I am safe in saying Hillary doesn't suffer from any gender pay discrepancy.

http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-all-the-six-figure-speaking-fees-that-hillary-clinton-received-after-leaving-the-state-dept-2015-5

“Maybe there’s a way of getting a representative group of actors at the table” to discuss how the federal government could help biotechs with “insurance against risk,” she said.

http://timesofsandiego.com/politics/2014/06/25/hillary-clinton-cheers-biotechers-backs-gmos-and-federal-help/

It would seem that the 1% (with all their money) are probably investing in biotechs. So now we should guarantee their losses, provide them with insurance like we do for the too big to fail banks. Really?

I wonder how many trillion that will cost us?

I wonder how much will be left over for the little people...

What in the hell form of capitalism is this?

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Clinton wants the federal govt to insure biotech companies against losses. (Original Post) Skwmom Apr 2016 OP
her second biggest contributors, after fossil fuel Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #1
... NWCorona Apr 2016 #2
K & R GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #3
You mean, the way we do with solar energy? It's a decent idea. Recursion Apr 2016 #4
Not so much the concept that's objectionable; most don't trust Hillary to keep it on the up and up. Scuba Apr 2016 #11
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #18
I think that might be a good idea if the government gets some control to cap profits and Snotcicles Apr 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Skwmom Apr 2016 #6
You shouldn't have to pay a company to cap profits and limit patent protection. What a damn joke Skwmom Apr 2016 #7
It is so risky, expensive, and difficult to bring a drug through to FDA approval it really has a Snotcicles Apr 2016 #9
Coming up with extended uses for existing drugs BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #12
I was referring to mostly small pharmaceutical companies. nt Snotcicles Apr 2016 #13
Biotech is a bogeyman now? Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #8
Just wow. Sanders' is against biomedical research, even sided with the Xian Right? nc4bo Apr 2016 #10
and presumably they'll still get immunity for their products and can move HQ to Ireland at will MisterP Apr 2016 #14
Given the research that biotechs are carrying out hill2016 Apr 2016 #15
So she's for single payer -- for corporations. CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #16
Backstopping losses and yet no negotiation on drug prices. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2016 #17

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
4. You mean, the way we do with solar energy? It's a decent idea.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:43 AM
Apr 2016

Not sure why people would be against that.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
11. Not so much the concept that's objectionable; most don't trust Hillary to keep it on the up and up.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:19 PM
Apr 2016

I haven't studied this issue, but there would be a be a wide gap between providing subsidies and insuring against losses.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
5. I think that might be a good idea if the government gets some control to cap profits and
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

patent protection limits.

Response to Snotcicles (Reply #5)

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
7. You shouldn't have to pay a company to cap profits and limit patent protection. What a damn joke
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:50 AM
Apr 2016

capitalism has become.
 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
9. It is so risky, expensive, and difficult to bring a drug through to FDA approval it really has a
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 11:58 AM
Apr 2016

discouraging effect on development. Because very few new drugs make it to completion. And the Universities aren't keeping up with the need for discovery.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
12. Coming up with extended uses for existing drugs
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

And developing "new and improved" drugs that basically do the same as drugs approaching patent expiration, and spending enormous sums on advertising to the public, and hordes of pharmaceutical sales reps, and bribing doctors, have higher ROIs.

Take a look at the profit margins and return on capital of big pharma (and the medical device companies) and tell me about how much they're hurting.

They leech off of taxpayer funded research and do everything they can to evade corporate taxes, such as using offshore tax havens, aggressive transfer pricing in their accounting, and corporate inversions.

It would be fine with me if we nationalized them.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
10. Just wow. Sanders' is against biomedical research, even sided with the Xian Right?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:02 PM
Apr 2016
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2016-04-02-US--DEM%202016-Biomedical%20Research/id-409c42bfbb464631a2ee3ef34a19f1f0


Sanders said following a vote in 2001 that he had "very serious concerns about the long-term goals of an increasingly powerful and profit-motivated biotechnology industry." In a later vote, he warned of the dangers of "owners of technology" who are "primarily interested in how much money they can make rather than the betterment of society."


Perhaps the Senator from Vermont had some reasoning behind his "no" votes instead of simply being a medical research and technology neanderthal?

I can't find too much about the history of his votes except that snippet from 2001.

Just wondering outloud.

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
15. Given the research that biotechs are carrying out
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

I can say I find it difficult to understand the outrage.

Since you hate biotech so much, do you commit never to being treated by any drug that comes out of the biotechnology industry?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
17. Backstopping losses and yet no negotiation on drug prices.
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

Hell, why not. What could possibly go wrong... Double down!

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