Why did Bill Clinton berate Black Lives Matter?

[Bread and Circus]

Three months ago....this would have never happened.

Now, it's Bill Clinton is acting as if it's the 1990's again....doubling down on Predators and Bring 'em to heel rhetoric.

How in the world can a white guy from the south, or anyone in Clinton's camp, even remotely get away with this having had Hillary basically be where she is as a direct result of the Black Vote.

I guess that's gratitude for you.

My god, if Bernie or his surrogates had ever tried to double down on the reforms of the 1990's it would be met with outrage and cries of outright racism.

Double standard to the Nth degree.

[Jitter65]

1. Any response to them on any level amounts to "betraying" them according to

BS supporters.

[revbones]

2. Why did he make the crack about Obama carrying their luggage?

Racism?



To Hillary followers - is that how it works? I see you guys throw around "racism" and "sexism" and thought I'd play too.

[msongs]

3. would love to read the exact quote where he berated "black lives matter". got it? nt

[jmg257]

11. "be·rate - scold or criticize (someone) angrily." Easy to find - just watch the video.

[Armstead]

38. Watch the tape

[840high]

53. You again - by now you

could have googled and known.

[SHRED]

4. Fact is...

Bubba did more harm to non-violent drug offenders than any drug kingpin and these are disproportionately PoC.

[NWCorona]

9. Word!

A classmate of mine was a marshmallow but she was at the wrong place and at the wrong time and is still locked up.

[840high]

54. My gosh - yes.

[QC]

5. The southern primaries are over. n/t

[TM99]

7. Bingo!

Now that they do not need that demographic quite as much they can dismiss them as the objects that they are.

[NCjack]

17. Yeah! The HRC campaign has pivoted toward the "center" --

err, towards the "right".

[FreakinDJ]

55. +1000

Quite a stretch from when Hillary was buying them a new dress and a day at the salon so they could show up at her campaign events in the south

[Joob]

6. What were they protesting? I remember them interrupting Bernie for no reason...That's why I ask. nt

[Zira]

42. When Bernie started he did need to acknowlege Black Lives Matter and that he understood blacks

are disproportionally stopped, locked up and killed by the police - by a wide margin.

They interrupted him to get him to acknowledge BLM and he didn't handle it well. He's definitely progressed on that matter and now gets it.

Hillary started campaigning a year before she announced and took over two floors of a building with what is so far the biggest campaign crew in history - she still has more people than all others who were ever in the 2016 election combined. She targeted the blacks and played them like fiddles. Looks like a whole lot of them googled her and caught on though.

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

59. Hillary wins where there is less internet connections.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. Because the Clintons are royalty who feel entitled to lecture commoners?

Support my failed policies or else you're defending murderers!11!

[uponit7771]

10. "when you talk about ghettos traditionally, what you talk about is African-American communities. "

[Bread and Circus]

13. I think the consensus is Bernie actually used the term correctly and you know it.

However, what he wasn't doing was berating Black Lives Matter like the Clintons.

So please, be consistent and take Clinton to task.

I won't hold my breath because I know your poutrage only goes one way.

[uponit7771]

14. Consensus among who and was it before or after Sanders had someone who called Obama "niggerized"

... stump for him in front of mostly white people in IA at NH?

tia

Where is Cornell West these days?!

[Bread and Circus]

19. Isn't Cornell West a respected academic and professor at a prestigious Ivy League college?

I don't but the few times I've seen Cornell West, I've really liked him. I think he's smart and funny.

And you gotta admit, the money forces do have a degree of control over Obama. If you can't admit that, you are naive.

[uponit7771]

21. again, among who is he respected?!

[Bread and Circus]

23. Smart people, I guess...considering where he teaches. Do you have something against smart people?

[uponit7771]

24. Black politico doesn't respect West at all and for solid good reasons, I guess we're not the smart

... ones hunh?

Whatever

[Bread and Circus]

26. I don't know what a Black politico is but there's a difference between struggling for power

which is politics and struggling for truth which is academics.

I tend to side with those who struggle for truth.

[Bread and Circus]

28. Also, when are you going to call out Bill Clinton for berating Black Lives Matter?

[uponit7771]

32. Never, just like I didn't criticize Sanders from acting like they stunk on stage or not standing

... with them off stage.

The TRUE "revolution" was with the people who were sitting on bridges during rush hour traffic to give awareness to police terrorism in CoC.

Sanders was no where to be found... and then repelled from them instead of giving them a voice...

[Bread and Circus]

33. What a joke.

[uponit7771]

36. Podium bird says you're right !!!

[Loudestlib]

37. You angry bro?

If not you should be. Been played.

[Bread and Circus]

47. Angry, no. It's pretty easy to see the hypocrisy....and sock puppets.

[Loudestlib]

51. Sock puppet?

My post was for uponit7771 I'm not sure why the mix up?

[Armstead]

39. If you're not even mildly upset at Bill, you have a double standard

[uponit7771]

41. again, bill gets the benefit of the doubt... Sanders does not

[Armstead]

43. okay....That's an interesting take on it..... Whatever gets you through the night.

[Vote2016]

12. Sista Soulja 2.0 (if you didn't see this coming you have been willfully blind)

[carolinayellowdog]

16. that was calculated, deliberate, strategy whereas

this seems like blind self-destructive lashing out

[Vote2016]

18. no. this is part of Hillary's general election strategy just like Bill's Sista Soulja moment was

calculated

[Autumn]

15. Because her supporters are fine with BLM activists being berated and Greenpeace

activists being yelled at.

[Bread and Circus]

20. Apparently. Even female Greenpeace activists.

[TheFarS1de]

25. It's ok to attack a female

If they're a Clinton apparently . Just ask Brock , a heavily defended slime ball that gets a free pass because of who he works for .

Selective outrage seems to be the order of the day .

[Desert805]

22. It's insane.

Like I'm in the twilight zone.

[jfern]

29. This is a general election campaign

Hopefully we don't end up with a race between 2 Republicans in November.

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

60. +1

[840high]

56. As long as a Clinton is

doing it - they approve.

[jfern]

27. He decided it was time for a Sister Souljah moment

[BernieforPres2016]

30. There was a guy on Hartmann's show tonight who made a good point

Bill Clinton has been hearing all the criticism of his Presidency: NAFTA, the Crime Bill, the Welfare Reform Bill, financial deregulation including dropping Glass-Steagall, coziness with Wall Street.

We have been seeing how Hillary has been less than a full throated defender of all of this.

While Bill defended Hillary's "super predator" comment from 1996, maybe this is really about Bill feeling defensive and defending HIS administration more than doing anything for Hillary.

[Kall]

34. I think that's it

[Zira]

44. He is defending his record. Regardless he's still being racist.

[BernieforPres2016]

48. I agree completely

Hartmann's guest noted that this is nothing new from the Clintons, that they played the race card on Obama in 2008. He said he had never seen Bill Clinton that unhinged and expects to see both Bill and Hillary get even worse and say just about anything leading up to the NY primary. He predicts it will blow up in their faces. Hartmann said he couldn't disagree with any of that.

[Luminous Animal]

49. When NAFTA, the Crime Bill, and the Welfare Reform Bill were being debated, she lobbied

for them like a mezzo-soprano.

[BernieforPres2016]

50. And then claimed later that they "inherited" NAFTA

Like Bill, she will say or do anything for power.

[Luminous Animal]

57. Clinton White House Lobbies All-Out As NAFTA Decision Nears in House

http://www.csmonitor.com/1993/1103/03092.html

[BernieforPres2016]

61. Of course NAFTA was Bill Clinton's deal

Hillary and others in the administration talked about whether they could get NAFTA and healthcare or if one of them would have to be sacrificed. Healthcare got second priority and Hillary's secrecy helped opponents kill it.

Here's a link to an NPR article on many of the flip flopping statements and votes Hillary has made with regard to trade bills over the years.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/21/401123124/a-timeline-of-hillary-clintons-evolution-on-trade

<Her husband brokered and passed the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, in 1993. The move irked labor unions, which are key to organizational efforts in Democratic campaigns. As first lady, in 1996, Clinton trumpeted NAFTA as "proving its worth.">

<Two years later, she went to Davos, Switzerland, where she spoke at the World Economic Forum and thanked businesses for lobbying for the agreement. She also criticized them for not making a stronger push to give her husband fast-track authority to negotiate trade deals and limit congressional power to alter those deals.>

<during her campaign for NY Senate in 2000: "What happened to NAFTA, I think, was we inherited an agreement that we didn't get everything we should have got out of it in my opinion. I think the NAFTA agreement was flawed.>

<2004: "I think on balance NAFTA has been good for New York and America, but I also think that there are a number of areas where we're not dealt with in an upfront way in dealing with our friend to the north, Canada, which seems to be able to come up with a number of rationales for keeping New York agricultural products out of Canada.">

<2007: "NAFTA was inherited by the Clinton Administration. I believe in the general principles it represented, but what we have learned is that we have to drive a tougher bargain. Our market is the market that everybody wants to be in. We should quit giving it away so willy-nilly.>

<2008: "You know, I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning. I didn't have a public position on it, because I was part of the administration, but when I started running for the Senate, I have been a critic. I've said it was flawed. ... you don't have all the record because you can go back and look at what I've said consistently.>

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

52. Yep. He sees his legacy slipping away

And, as a result of Hillary's campaign, people are revisiting Bill's presidency and discussing it a lot more. Many of the things he did don't look so great in today's light.

[Press Virginia]

31. Because they didn't know their place?

Their place being anywhere but challenging Bill

[Segami]

35. The Clinton Theater continues....

[Armstead]

45. I think poor Bill misses being the center of attention

[Glorfindel]

40. Because this is America and we have freedom of speech? Even for former presidents?

I berate people from time to time, and get berated in turn. If one can't stand the heat (free speech), one should get out of the kitchen (politics).

[Motown_Johnny]

46. He needs to defend his legacy, and if Hillary is elected so will she.

The conflict of interest is plain for all to see.

[northernsouthern]

58. I have mixed feelings on this.

What were they chanting? Could not tell if it was "let her speak" or "Hillary". Not knowing makes it hard to tell if it was the HRC camp trying to drown out the BLM, or one large group standing up for BLM. If it was HRC drowning them out, that is very dismissive of the crow and Bill was trying to let the BLM talk with his hand gestures, but if it was the opposite, then Bill's hand gestures were a bit dismissive of the BLM and the crowd was a bit better.

As for his response, it seemed more of a privileged racism than an overt racism, he seemed to boil the issue down to just the guys dosed up on goof balls for the murders of "other" black people (implying they were mostly black). It ignored all of the history of all the institutions against black Americans, it ignored the fact the government was targeting the black populace with drugs since Nixonish, it ignores the fact that black communities had been built to fail, it ignored people like, it ignored the generations of damage programs like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment caused. It was far too simplistic, and he should have known better. I would say this is far more racist than the incredibly stupid faux outrage from the "ghetto" line from a jewish guy. I grew up with no electricity and no running water as a kid, we were dirt poor southerners and we did not for one second think he was saying only plack people are poor or that black people are only poor. That is like someone telling you that you made a good meal, and you automatically attack them for implying that by saying you made a good meal this time all the other times must have been bad.

So I figured Bill should have known better than this and had an actual response. Said we were trying to help black populations, but we were wrong, we did not know how to do it correctly, the system was rigged to destroy the black communities by some horrible people, and we fell in to their traps, this is a mistake we will never make again.

[egduj]

62. Love Bill!

Far and away the best president in my lifetime.

[northernsouthern]

63. Well so did I...

Did you watch the footage? I struggled with the end. I Found one a bit better...

They are shouting Hillary to block out the BLM people, the crowd was a bit in the wrong there, Bill did good shushing them. I don't like how he smiles during the ling about the 13 year old. I do think he was way too dismissive, watching it a fifth time I see it as even more blind racism (not on purpose, but because he just can't see it),he asked what would you have done?
Well...

It is my firm belief that clearly there are people in our society who are horribly violent, who are deeply sick and sociopathic, and clearly these people must be put behind bars in order to protect society from them.

But it is also my view that through the neglect of our government and through a grossly irrational set of priorities, we are dooming today tens of millions of young people to a future of bitterness, misery, hopelessness, drugs, crime, and violence. And, Mr. Speaker, all the jails in the world — and we already imprison more people per capita than any other country — and all of the executions … in the world will not make that situation right.

We can either educate or electrocute. We can create meaningful jobs, rebuilding our society, or we can build more jails. Mr. Speaker, let us create a society of hope and compassion, not one of hate and vengeance.

Someone had a far better idea at the time... I wonder what ever happened to this guy?