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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:18 PM Apr 2016

Hillary's lie about New York guns coming from Vermont

Sorry Hillary, 4 of 5 Years More New York Guns Traced to Vermont than Vice Versa

Having lost six straight primary contests (7 of the last 8) and struggling to regain her composure, Hillary Clinton today launched her most creative attack yet against Bernie Sanders, this time blaming the Senator for guns that end up in New York.

...

Unfortunately for Clinton, the federal government’s own data directly contradicts her claims.

According to ATF statistics, for four years straight not a single Vermont gun ended up in neighboring New York state. Yet during that time, a handful of New York guns made their way across the border to Vermont...




...Not only does the data directly refute Clinton’s claim from the outset, the notion that a U.S. Senator is responsible and should be blamed for policies adopted by their State’s legislature is absurd. Federal lawmakers don’t write state law, an apparently needless fact glossed over by the Clinton’s latest hastily-crafted attack line.




In literally blaming New York gun deaths on Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton is playing a dangerous game. Especially given her willingness to sell guns and weaponry to foreign nations who donated to her family foundation.


http://vetsforbernie.org/2016/04/hillarys-vermont-gun-lie/
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djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Never forget this -
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:20 PM
Apr 2016
Especially given her willingness to sell guns and weaponry to foreign nations who donated to her family foundation.


I sure won't.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,331 posts)
3. Has anyone asked former Governor Howard Dean how he likes his state being used and ...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

... accused of importing guns to NY?


As long as the checks clear, I guess.

Response to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. Oops. Add another one to the list.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:24 PM
Apr 2016

That's a fantastic website, those guys are doing a hell of a job getting the truth out there.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Sad to see Sanders' folks so supportive of guns. Gun fanciers are mostly
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

white folks irrationally afraid of minorities.

PufPuf23

(8,802 posts)
8. What does that have to do with the OP? Take the effort to honestly pay attention.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016

Here is the point of this OP:

“[Clinton] said that it’s going to be coming out in the very near future that many of the catastrophes that have taken human lives in the State of New York have been the product of guns coming over the border from Vermont.”

Many of the catastrophes that have taken human lives in the State of New York have been the product of guns coming over the border from Vermont. – Hillary Clinton to NY Lawmakers, according to Sen. Tim Kennedy (4/4/2016)

It is ugly and made up to manipulate people.

Deflect some?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
9. Hey that's not fair! I know some black people who own guns.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:17 PM
Apr 2016

One is even an NRA member. It gets him a discount at the range.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
15. Didn't the NRA help Sanders with his first campaign? Sounds like he's paying them back with support.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:00 AM
Apr 2016

... but of course Clinton taking 1 / 30th of her yearly salary over 5 years of speaking fees is some indicator she's beholden.


What ever

Sanders... NOT different

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. Yeah, but hacky sacks, lossless live phish recordings and weed DEFINITELY come in from VT.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:02 AM
Apr 2016

Please, think of the children.

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