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Prism

(5,815 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:58 AM Apr 2016

Hillary's generation benefited from "free stuff"

I'm going to harp on this a bit, because it pisses me off the way her campaign and supporters malign Millennials.

Let's look at college tuition. In 1968 (around the time Clinton would be a junior in college), the University of California cost $2,258 per year in today's dollars for residents.

Today, one year of tuition in the UC system runs $13,518.

That is nearly a six-fold increase.

When people complain, well, they just want free stuff, the slackers. Bootstraps!

So every time I hear someone bash Millennials about how they only vote Sanders for "free stuff" I'm going to bring up this statistic. Clinton and her generation received a lot of advantages they would now deny their successors today.

This isn't Democratic. It's not liberal. It's not progressive.

It's Republicanism straight to the core.

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Hillary's generation benefited from "free stuff" (Original Post) Prism Apr 2016 OP
It's bootstrap Christianity's Golden Rule... dchill Apr 2016 #1
i'm 74. graduated hs in '58. there was no DesertFlower Apr 2016 #2
Millenials: The Over-50 crowd lived by shifted their debts onto the Federal Deficit-that you'll pay! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #3
This Boomer applauds your rant flamingdem Apr 2016 #4
Absolutely. delrem Apr 2016 #5
Even colleges that weren't free were affordable. MgtPA Apr 2016 #6
You Should Complain to Your local State Government Stallion Apr 2016 #7
oh please DonCoquixote Apr 2016 #9
Gonna post this again Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #8

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
2. i'm 74. graduated hs in '58. there was no
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:11 AM
Apr 2016

money for me to go to college. parents were divorced -- mom struggling with 2 younger kids. i had to go to work and help my mom. i made $48 a week -- $40 after taxes -- had to give mom $15. i was happy to be able to help.

joy bahar who is 73 went to queens college -- $64 a semester. i guess her parents were able to pay it. she did have a part time job in woolworths.




flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. This Boomer applauds your rant
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:17 AM
Apr 2016

My dad received higher education for free in the UC system and I paid very little to attend UC only 15 years ago. Things have gone out of control since then.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
5. Absolutely.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:29 AM
Apr 2016

It wasn't called "free stuff" then. It was called "normal".

As in, a normal return for paying into the system.

Of course if you belong to a country that wants to invest it all on war then that's on you.

So vote accordingly.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
7. You Should Complain to Your local State Government
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:34 AM
Apr 2016

2014 Millennials didn't show up. The Federal Government doesn't set the tuition of state universities. will you show up in 2016 if your candidate doesn't get nominated-how about off year elections in 2018. Will you be voting for the Democrat in your state or is there really no difference between the two "establishment" parties? Just adding some reality to this thread.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
9. oh please
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:53 AM
Apr 2016

by the time Millennials get to show up, if their Boomer Boss deems to give them time off, the rich in the party have already made sure said candidate will not represent them, because Millennials do not have the money. It is tiresome to see people slam millennials for not having the numbers or influence, then when they try to get some, we get yet another rendition of



with the emphasis on "why can't they be like we were, perfect in every way.." omitting the fact that that not only did they drive their parents up the wall, but they were the first to throw them in the nursing home! Jay Leno tossed Johnny Carson out the door, ye when it was time for him to pass the baton, he made a rotten, foul stink that cost NBC the talents of David Letterman and Conan O Brien. Granted, the Millennial Jimmy Fallon is doing well, but that is because, unlike my fellow Generation Xer's, he realized that the baton had to be pried from clasping hands, those same hands that gladly ripped the baton from Grandma and Grandpa so they could spend all in inheritance money (that the Millennials will NEVER see a cent of.)

Avalon Sparks

(2,566 posts)
8. Gonna post this again
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:34 AM
Apr 2016

I graduated in 1989 - tuition and books each semester cost about $1,000
I paid for most of it working just part time in the summer for min wage ($3.65/hour), my parents chipped in a little for school and apartment rent and food. I could have paid for almost all that working full time in the summers and part time during college. In fact most people I went to school with did just that. I didn't know anyone that left with debt.

Today the cost for a years tuition at the same school is $10,000. Not even counting books it's a 1000% increase.
Min wage would need to be $36.50 to pay the way I did.


Please tell me in what world is that not completed screwed up?

An educated society strengthens the country, students graduating with that much debt are a complete drag on the economy. (demand is what strengthens the economy.

Affordable college tuition should be at the top of the priority for both parties.

But instead these stupid wedge issues come up year after year after year. As a society we're getting so dumb - most people don't even know what a wedge issue means or why it's pointless to base a vote on one, or even consider them during an election.

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