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Well well Bernie just walked back his LIE--just said Hillary was qualified to be POTUS... (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2016 OP
Meh...he'll tell another soon enough. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #1
can you tell us about her trip to bosnia? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #80
What will he invent out of whole cloth tomorrow? workinclasszero Apr 2016 #89
Hillary's week of lies. w4rma Apr 2016 #101
did he admit that Hillary said no such thing about him? bigtree Apr 2016 #2
No, but I only saw a short clip. Sanders was being asked if Hill was qualified. At first he riversedge Apr 2016 #11
Apparently the lie caused too much backlash, Hortensis Apr 2016 #26
It certainly wasn't a lie, it was his and many other's opinion about her "qualifications" All in it together Apr 2016 #81
LOL but it was Sanders who had lots of Pinnochio's for lunch yesterday due to his LIE riversedge Apr 2016 #92
It is not a lie that she is generally qualified, but she is not as qualified on specific judgments The Wielding Truth Apr 2016 #103
HRC said BS didn't do his homework. Simple truth Hortensis Apr 2016 #93
she meets the constitutional requirements. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #3
Most honest of all the candidates. seabeyond Apr 2016 #5
HAHAHAHA #sniperfire seattleite Apr 2016 #8
On what planet in what alternate universe. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #9
Different look see consistently has Clinton top as most honest of all the candidates. Sanders is 2nd seabeyond Apr 2016 #23
Oh really? hobbit709 Apr 2016 #28
There is a difference between opinion and fact, but I get how that one can be a challenge. seabeyond Apr 2016 #56
She takes all sides of all issues AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #66
The MOST honest of all the candidates. seabeyond Apr 2016 #68
She takes all sides of all issues AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #71
THE most honest candidate. seabeyond Apr 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Apr 2016 #76
Just ask the sniper! Desert805 Apr 2016 #84
She is the least honest Democratic candidate in US history AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #85
She rates the most honest, so maybe it is all about emotion for you and not fact. Can't help there. seabeyond Apr 2016 #90
Why is she running a rudderless troll based campaign? AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #94
Clinton isn't. seabeyond Apr 2016 #96
Pure Rove AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #97
He lies, on camera. If anyone challenges it, it is Rove. The Rove part is deflecting to Clinton. Lol seabeyond Apr 2016 #98
What? bvf Apr 2016 #51
But then, with all his Pinocchios of late, he might be falling further and further behind, lol. seabeyond Apr 2016 #25
Yes, the most honest candidate CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #29
Well, then, lets list all Sanders FEC infractions as criminal behavior without conviction. seabeyond Apr 2016 #54
Bernie Sanders is not under investigation by the FBI CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #72
I didn't say he was. seabeyond Apr 2016 #74
I find it disingenuous that CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #78
Think what you like, I think the email issue is bullshit and merely used as a rw attack on seabeyond Apr 2016 #83
As Rangel says... Who the hell is Sanders to say who is qualified. seabeyond Apr 2016 #4
Funny. As if Rangel is one to talk. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #14
that quote is very revealing about the prospects of anything getting done with Democrats riversedge Apr 2016 #15
If i gave rangell 10 bucks SwampG8r Apr 2016 #24
Which puts the pieces together. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #30
Rangel? One of Congress' most corrput politicians? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #35
Charlie Rangel?? beedle Apr 2016 #52
Rangel has devolved into a troll AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #95
qualified by the legal requirements is one thing restorefreedom Apr 2016 #6
Same thing on CBS morning news. MineralMan Apr 2016 #7
They are both putting down their swords CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #32
Could be. Now, if we could do the same on DU, MineralMan Apr 2016 #33
You're kidding right? CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #45
Glad to see Sanders copied good comments. riversedge Apr 2016 #37
This is clearly an agreement that was made behind the scenes CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #48
But, HRC never said SBS was qualified or unqualified, saying he's better than unqualified GOPers. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #38
Clearly, we all see what Clinton was doing CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #55
Noticed that on recent interviews for both our candidates. Sunlei Apr 2016 #44
He walked into the trap laid by Clinton and WaPo. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #49
Oh please-The Washington Post has printed many lies about Hillary redstateblues Apr 2016 #53
Well, he just did. Not a "voting for the Iraq war" magnitude mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. nt lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #61
... SidDithers Apr 2016 #10
Well, how about that. I'd like to see the transcript for future reference. Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #12
I am sure the transcript will be out shortly. Maybe is already along with the video because it riversedge Apr 2016 #20
Transcripts out shortly? You heard it here first! lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #60
Well I said the day before yesterday that he absolutely had to do this Dem2 Apr 2016 #13
Sanders was pushed by a reported. The admission did not come easy and there is still lying issue. riversedge Apr 2016 #16
Both he and Jane were doubling down on this issue just yesterday Dem2 Apr 2016 #18
One thing that you are not mentioning is that CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #39
Oh, yes. I forgot Sanders and his camp do not read past headlines. Thanks for the reminder riversedge Apr 2016 #40
Well, what we're talking about here CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #46
Hillary did not say that Sanders was not qualified, like Sanders did. Sure, he reluctantly riversedge Apr 2016 #50
Sorry, but I think the only people who believe that was a "whopper" CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #62
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #17
Just in time to market his Bernie Sanders flip flops! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #19
Whow. love em. riversedge Apr 2016 #41
Awesome, now we know beedle Apr 2016 #67
Bernie Sanders flip flops. Casual, sensible, comfortable. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #69
I need a pair of those! carburyme Apr 2016 #77
Not a lie... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #21
Lol, ease off the caffeine buddy. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #22
Sanders was stupid to make these comments in the first place Gothmog Apr 2016 #27
There are lots of different ways to be qualified My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #31
This point is lost on the OP. Incurably superficial understanding of the message. JudyM Apr 2016 #65
Everyone knew he had to. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #34
Monkey Steals GoPro and Takes Selfie snooper2 Apr 2016 #36
credit where credit is due, he's removed his foot from the dog poop he stepped in nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #42
still pretty smelly redstateblues Apr 2016 #57
He really shouldn't leave script. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #43
Will Hillary now walk back ANY of her LIES? nt revbones Apr 2016 #47
Of course not, she knew what she did with her lawyer jive. She caught (*see '08 campaign), realized nc4bo Apr 2016 #59
Just remember this new rule when she is president. HassleCat Apr 2016 #58
Did he feel the bern rock Apr 2016 #63
LOL riversedge Apr 2016 #75
Bernie makes mistakes too at times... Herman4747 Apr 2016 #64
If Annie Oakley is qualified, so is Dick Cheney. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2016 #70
If Sanders walked back all his lies SFnomad Apr 2016 #79
Cheep shot and so wrong All in it together Apr 2016 #99
He could have said that yesterday morning when he knew, the Washington Post headline was false. Jitter65 Apr 2016 #82
Thank you for slicing through the disingenuous BS. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #102
That's good. Far less qualified people have been president. Orsino Apr 2016 #86
She is over 35 and a natural US citizen AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #87
Damn Straight, bernie.. President Obama came out and said it yesterday, too.. he was having none Cha Apr 2016 #88
We'll hear it again in a Donald Trump ad attacking Hillary. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #91
Yes, day after day-Sanders gives fodder to the Republicans riversedge Apr 2016 #100
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
80. can you tell us about her trip to bosnia?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

keystone?
TPP?

want me to continue?

he did not lie - he just does not want to damage her more than she does herself

riversedge

(70,260 posts)
11. No, but I only saw a short clip. Sanders was being asked if Hill was qualified. At first he
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

distracted--he was asked against. Short response. Should be in print soon.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Apparently the lie caused too much backlash,
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:36 AM
Apr 2016

which is interesting in itself. It's nice to know so many people know Hillary is qualified that his lie sounded as stupid and dishonest as it was.

But let's not forget, the lie was never meant to make people believe Hillary was not qualified. It was a mass media technique intended to mislead and confuse voters by spreading the lack of "qualifications" issue biting him to his opponent.

"Oh, I'm so confused. I guess I'll vote for Sanders. He speaks with such conviction, and in short sentences."

All in it together

(275 posts)
81. It certainly wasn't a lie, it was his and many other's opinion about her "qualifications"
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:57 AM
Apr 2016

What Hillary did was a lie or "artful smear" about Bernie's knowledge of breaking up the banks. He said the same thing that Hillary said that Dodd Frank could be used to break up the banks.
Glass -Stegall is about separating commercial banks from investment (gambling) banks.
The President could do it and no one knows if the Fed can do it.

So good try but no cigar.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
103. It is not a lie that she is generally qualified, but she is not as qualified on specific judgments
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 07:12 AM
Apr 2016

she has made. That is what Bernie actually said. On those points she is not qualified. Read and listen closely. Bernie is not perfect, but I have not heard him bludgeon Her with anything that is not an important truth.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
93. HRC said BS didn't do his homework. Simple truth
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:49 PM
Apr 2016

stated simply, and with great restraint.

Pretending that commenting gently on Bernie's display of gross ignorance was a smear is just dishonest.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
23. Different look see consistently has Clinton top as most honest of all the candidates. Sanders is 2nd
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

Response to seabeyond (Reply #73)

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
85. She is the least honest Democratic candidate in US history
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:03 PM
Apr 2016

Her campaign has degenerated into pure trolling. Issues and governing do not exist in the world of the Clinton campaign.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
90. She rates the most honest, so maybe it is all about emotion for you and not fact. Can't help there.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:22 PM
Apr 2016
 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
97. Pure Rove
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton gets caught in a string of lies, her partisans react with mindless finger pointing...

Anything to avoid real issues

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
98. He lies, on camera. If anyone challenges it, it is Rove. The Rove part is deflecting to Clinton. Lol
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
25. But then, with all his Pinocchios of late, he might be falling further and further behind, lol.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:34 AM
Apr 2016

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
29. Yes, the most honest candidate
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:38 AM
Apr 2016

always has an imminent interview with the head of the FBI for routing all of her State Department email on a private, unsecured email server. A server that even the President didn't know about.

That there is a special, special kind of honesty.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
72. Bernie Sanders is not under investigation by the FBI
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:36 AM
Apr 2016

You don't have any comment about the President knowing about her unsecured email server?

Blew me away when I read that.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
78. I find it disingenuous that
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:52 AM
Apr 2016

you have no comment about Hillary Clinton's impending FBI interrogation, that will most likely happen this month. A very serious investigation that could not only bring Hillary Clinton down, but affect our entire party and this race.

Yet, you respond with some flakey comment about something something Bernie did--that no one but you thinks is relevant.

Are you a serious person?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
83. Think what you like, I think the email issue is bullshit and merely used as a rw attack on
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton.

Bengahzi

I guess I feel it is disingenuous that you are outraged over this while totally ignoring Sanders laws he is being investigated on.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. As Rangel says... Who the hell is Sanders to say who is qualified.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:14 AM
Apr 2016
Rangel told Golodryga that in all of his years in Congress, he’s “never had a conversation with Sen. Sanders.” He said, “He’s the type of person that is so proud that he’s not a Republican and he’s not a Democrat that he feels compelled not to converse with you, but to give a lecture to you so that you would know how much he knows about whatever he’s talking about.” He continued, “I don’t know any bill that I associate with him.”

riversedge

(70,260 posts)
15. that quote is very revealing about the prospects of anything getting done with Democrats
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:18 AM
Apr 2016

in Congress. NILCH.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
24. If i gave rangell 10 bucks
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

He would say whatever i wanted up to and including putting his cellphone in a pair of pantyhose swinging it over his head and clucking like a chicken
He is almost as ethically challenged as hillary.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
52. Charlie Rangel??
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
Apr 2016

This is the same Rangel that was censured by congress for ethics violations stemming from tax fraud, right?

Then chalk up a point for Sanders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Rangel#2008.E2.80.932010:_Ethics_issues_and_censure

So where does this ethically challenged tax cheat, using the poor judgement he is famously know for, throw his support? Oh right.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
6. qualified by the legal requirements is one thing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

morally qualified and capable of making sound decisions is another. his position on this is clear and he did not lie. A for effort, though

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
7. Same thing on CBS morning news.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

He also said he'd support Hillary if she became the nominee. He said it clearly and without equivocation.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
32. They are both putting down their swords
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:41 AM
Apr 2016

Anyone who can't see that they've both called off the dogs, isn't paying attention.

Clinton said that she'd take Bernie Sanders over Cruz or Trump any day. Bernie said last night on Seth Myers that, "Even on her best day, Hillary Clinton is better than Trump or Cruz.

This would signal that both agreed to a truce...for now.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
33. Could be. Now, if we could do the same on DU,
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

that'd be great.

In the zeal over one or another Democratic candidate, many seem to have forgotten where the real conflict is taking place. I think it's a damned shame.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
45. You're kidding right?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:03 AM
Apr 2016

There's something about Internet political discussion, that is a special breed of crazy. It's not like the real world--and both camps have fomented this.

At dinner last night, I was explaining to my husband what happened with the whole Hillary/Bernie spat. As I explained the steps, he said, "No one in the real world gives a rat's ass about all of that. They'll hear a soundbite or two, but that means nothing."

Wooooahhhhh, there fella!!! To the people on the Internet (I including myself in this analysis) ducking this out, it means EVERYTHING!!!!!!

I will say this. I think both candidates handled this poorly. I see now winners here. But both candidates have issued their statements that lets the air out of the balloon, so to speak.

Hillary provoked this. And she knows it. She's a dirty dog. Their camp declared that their new New York campaign mode against Bernie would be, "Disqualify, defeat and then unify." Then, the next day, her campaign took to the media to do just that. Clinton was asked three times if Bernie was qualified. She refused to answer, while suggesting that Bernie didn't know what he was doing and and that his plans and policies were unworkable. I mean...SERIOUSLY! She walked right up to that line. She knows what she did. And with an assist from the Washington Post in an article titled, "Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president" the assertions are out there in the ether.

Bernie responded to all of that, including the title of the article. I'm a huge Bernie supporter, but I don't think he handled this well. He needs to treat her attacks in the way that Obama did. You don't lose your cool. You don't react to her. You respond in control--after you've had some time to strategize a bit. You chuckle about her. You don't fall into the traps. He should have NEVER said that she was "unqualified." That was a mistake. He could have taken this as an opportunity to distinguish between a great resume and great judgment--then launched into a controlled discussion about her Iraq War vote and her Wall Street donations.

Bernie did not react well. But PLEASE, Clinton is not some innocent doe. She set this up. However, Sanders walked right into the trap.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/04/06/clinton-questions-whether-sanders-is-qualified-to-be-president/

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
48. This is clearly an agreement that was made behind the scenes
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

that both are calling a truce.

Both said nice things about each other on the same day. Sanders took to the Seth Myers show to explain his side of it--and the final note was to say the nice line about Clinton. Obviously, all of those questions were determined way before the interview began--as were the answers.

Similar to Clinton's nice comments about Bernie.

"Copying"...what are you 12?

Have you checked out today's coverage of this "spat"? NPR did a story this morning. It was balanced on both sides. Both sides were given equal blame. Clinton for cajoling Bernie into a reaction, and Sanders for running off the rails with his response. The reporting on this ended with the "nice" lines from both camps.

The Wall Street Journal's article followed the same script. Obviously, this post-duel media coverage is part of the agreement as well. Both are positioned as sharing the blame, both issue a pseudo-supportive quote.

....and scene.

TheBlackAdder

(28,210 posts)
38. But, HRC never said SBS was qualified or unqualified, saying he's better than unqualified GOPers.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:48 AM
Apr 2016

.


The question is: Does HRC feel that SBS or any in the GOP field are qualified for POTUS?



If the GOP are unqualified, then SBS stands somewhere between HRC and unqualified GOP people.

SBS could either be qualified or not.



If some of the GOP are qualified, then that not only validates the GOPers but then says that SBS is qualified.



Unless this is clarified, that entire statement is complete bullshit!



====



She never answers the qualification point, just dances around it, leaving it open for personal interpretation.


In a couple of my English and Poli-Sci courses, we had to decipher rhetoric--the art of persuasion and doublespeak!

We were graded on this and it now pops out whenever I see it being deployed.

Those who fail to grasp its use are the targets of it.



.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
55. Clearly, we all see what Clinton was doing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:34 AM
Apr 2016

She disparaged Bernie on Morning Joe, and asserted that this major ideas and policies were unworkable and that he really didn't know what he was doing. Then, after slicing and dicing Bernie, Joe asked her THREE times if Bernie was qualified and each time she refused to answer.

I think anyone with a functioning hippocampus understands EXACTLY what she was doing.

Her non-answer and her refusal to say that he IS qualified, suggests that he is not.

Of course, her digital response team spins this into a dreary treatise on Bernie Sanders and how he's such a horrendous liar. LOL! She knows exactly what she was doing.

It's game playing. In my opinion, Bernie didn't handle this optimally. He was being played and he should have responded to her in a much different way. He could have annihilated her, the way Obama used to do. Clinton would attack Obama and he would remain so calm and so cool, and then pull out a one liner that completely made her look like an idiot.

It's like dealing with a toddler who is on the floor and screaming because they can't have the candy bar. You don't get on the floor and roll around with them while you scream your reasons for not giving them the candy bar. You'll never win.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
49. He walked into the trap laid by Clinton and WaPo.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

WaPo probably emailed their own "Clinton questions Sanders qualifications" article to him.

This has been a long, grueling campaign. The fact that this is his worst faux pas so far is itself encouraging.

In retrospect, this was the kind of trick that Clinton and her surrogates are most skilled at. He'll know better next time.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
53. Oh please-The Washington Post has printed many lies about Hillary
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:32 AM
Apr 2016

With friends like WaPo who needs enemies? Of course Sanders the deity is perfect and could never make a mistake.

Arkansas Granny

(31,522 posts)
12. Well, how about that. I'd like to see the transcript for future reference.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

What kind of spin will his fans put on this reversal?

riversedge

(70,260 posts)
20. I am sure the transcript will be out shortly. Maybe is already along with the video because it
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:22 AM
Apr 2016

was a tape from somewhere outside was showed on msnbc). He was outside with a coat on--so now a sit down interview. We will see shortly

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
13. Well I said the day before yesterday that he absolutely had to do this
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:17 AM
Apr 2016

And I am shocked that it took this long.

riversedge

(70,260 posts)
16. Sanders was pushed by a reported. The admission did not come easy and there is still lying issue.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:19 AM
Apr 2016

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
18. Both he and Jane were doubling down on this issue just yesterday
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:21 AM
Apr 2016

It's not a quality that I admire obstinance, stubbornness whatever you want to call it.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
39. One thing that you are not mentioning is that
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:51 AM
Apr 2016

Sanders explained why he said what he said. He pointed to the headline in the Washington Post, "Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president."

Clinton had been out talking smack about Bernie Sanders all day Wednesday. After declaring that the Clinton camp's new New York tack against Bernie would be, "Disqualify, defeat and unify the party later."

They told us, via CNN surrogates exactly what they were going to do. And they did it.

Bernie responded to the headline with accusations of Clinton also being unqualified, due to her Iraq War vote and her campaign being fueled on a great deal of Wall Street money.

This isn't the bloody disaster that so many Hillary supporters claim.

Now, you're shouting, "It's a lie!!! He's walking back a lie!!!" OMG...they've both put down their swords.

Clinton said yesterday, "I'll take Bernie Sanders over Trump or Cruz, any day."
http://www.kwwl.com/story/31670476/2016/04/07/clinton-ill-take-sanders-over-trump-cruz-any-day

Clinton started this stuff. Bernie responded. It's over now. Can we just go back to being slightly crazy instead of completely batshit crazy now?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
46. Well, what we're talking about here
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:12 AM
Apr 2016

is that Clinton spent most of the day speaking to the media about how inept Sanders is and how unrealistic his plans and ideas are. She was asked if Sanders was qualified by Joe S--three times. All three times she refused to say YES. Come on...

Her surrogates were busy cementing the meme that he was unqualified too, and the WaPo article, "Clinton questions whether Sanders is qualified to be president" just puts a ribbon on their entire thing.

She doesn't have to say it. She just levels the charges, and when asked if Sanders is qualified (three times) she refuses to say yes. In effect, she has cast doubts about his qualifications--with the WaPo article underscoring that denial.

So then when Bernie responds to the WaPo headline (and her smack talk), her campaign screams, "She never said that!!! Bernie is a liar!!! Liar!!!"

Seriously? LOL. I mean...come on.




riversedge

(70,260 posts)
50. Hillary did not say that Sanders was not qualified, like Sanders did. Sure, he reluctantly
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:25 AM
Apr 2016

walked it back today. But the damage was done--he really can not walk that whopper back.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
62. Sorry, but I think the only people who believe that was a "whopper"
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

are online Hillary supporters who discuss this ad nauseam.

Sorry to break the news to you, but no "damage was done" to Bernie. Clinton supporters like you are up in arms, but I guarantee you that no one defected from the Bernie camp because of this. His comments were innocuous, compared to what the Internet says about her, round the clock.

Most Sanders supporters were glad to hear him speak like that. I certainly think that her judgment on many things (including the Iraq War and her Wall Street payola) disqualifies her from leading a parade--let alone the whole country.

What he said is not that big of a deal.

As much as you want to turn this into some four-alarm political fire, it's just not. I know you're stuck on the, "But she never said that!! He's a liar!!" schtick, but no one but Hillary's online community is in that place. It's clear what she said about him the day before. Disparaging him and saying that his plans are unworkable and that he seems to not understand how the system works. Then, refusing to say that he is qualified after Joe S asks her THREE times.

Everyone gets what she did. This situation isn't exactly flattering to her. Which is why they've both said nice things to each other and are agreeing to move on.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
21. Not a lie...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

No more lie than the hatchet job and the lies from the Hillarybots' claim that he didn't know what he was talking about.

What you fail to see is that your source, DN would have twisted his words no matter what he said just to give the minions some weak sauced strawmen to smear Bernie with more. And when your smear backfires, you claim victimhood and sexism.

When will Hillary apologize for her dirty campaign, smears and lies since she coerced the black caucus to support her undesercingly?

The source you praise so much as "neutral" is owned by a Hillary donor. And you still repeat the same mudslinging talking points.

When will you admit that the Daily News piece was nothing but a hatchet jobs where they lied about his alleged incompetence, his "support" for arms dealers over Sandy Hook victims and the lies about his stance on Israel?

When will the Hillarybots and PUMAs apologize for their own lies about Bernie?

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
22. Lol, ease off the caffeine buddy.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:31 AM
Apr 2016

She's absolutely not morally qualified for the presidency, but lucky for her the constitution doesn't specify a moral test.

My Good Babushka

(2,710 posts)
31. There are lots of different ways to be qualified
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:39 AM
Apr 2016

constitutionally is one thing, morally and ethically is another.
It depends on what the definition of "is" is.
Clinton is no doubt familiar with idiomatic quibbling such as that.
It depends on what the definition of "qualified" is.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
34. Everyone knew he had to.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:45 AM
Apr 2016

The question is whether he will ever apologize for putting words in Hillary's mouth. I'm guessing he won't.

Say what you want about her, but when Hillary was wrong about Nancy Reagan, she apologized several times. I'm hoping Bernie is big enough to do the same.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
43. He really shouldn't leave script.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:58 AM
Apr 2016

He is a train wreck when questioned. The fact he doesn't have what it takes upstairs to go off the cuff, combined with the fact the media always has a conservative bias, really underscores why he should already know to stay away from those situations.



nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
59. Of course not, she knew what she did with her lawyer jive. She caught (*see '08 campaign), realized
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:41 AM
Apr 2016

Young folks weren't falling for the bullshit(*see not as naive and dumb as originally thought), Sanders let her know he's no punching bag. Shortly thereafter she changed her tune.

We know what SHE did. The media knew what THEY did. Sanders let them all know he's no fool.

Kabuki theater, establishment-style.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
58. Just remember this new rule when she is president.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:35 AM
Apr 2016

Every time Clinton says something by mistake, it's a LIE, all in caps. Don't forget.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
82. He could have said that yesterday morning when he knew, the Washington Post headline was false.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

Instead he doubled down yesterday and kept the frenzy going to take the focus away from his disastrous interview with the NY Post and to further impress in the minds of his followers (they are followers, not supporters) that she had (falsely) said that he was unqualified to be President. He knew it was as lie when he continued to push it.

Today he walks it back after doing much damage to Hillary (and himself IMHO). I don't buy his sudden change to civility...he is still the mean-spirited, angry old man he has been most of his tenure in the Senate.

Cha

(297,414 posts)
88. Damn Straight, bernie.. President Obama came out and said it yesterday, too.. he was having none
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

that bullshit.

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