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It's interesting to see how popular the pope is on DU these days. (Original Post) Renew Deal Apr 2016 OP
Maybe that's because "a few years ago" The Pope was this guy? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #1
Eh, the pope was getting castigated just last year around here in a big way Blue_Adept Apr 2016 #12
I think a lot of ppl on the left are ambivalent or situationally supportive of the current Pope, and Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #22
Not from me. He is a flat out a bigot and a sexist. He promotes both. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #2
This was the automatic response up until even recently. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #4
It should still be the response. He is on record as both. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #5
Nothing has changed. Pope Photo Op hasn't changed Vatican policy. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #19
I am a huge Bernie supporter and not a fan of the Pope or the Catholic Church! m-lekktor Apr 2016 #3
more interesting is how Hillary is not 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #6
His humanist ideas are aligning with progressivism, not the progressivism perverted by Reagan Dems. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #7
He's a bigot but he's right on economic justice riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Apr 2016 #9
Just edited that out as soon as I posted it riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #11
A few years ago? one_voice Apr 2016 #10
The Sanders camp has flexible morals, they bend and twist to any possible outcome Tarc Apr 2016 #13
+1 CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #15
I'm sure there is also room in your world view for nuance rachacha Apr 2016 #16
I'm sure there are many things we can agree on Tarc Apr 2016 #17
I hope he learns something by having Sanders visit . He hopefully will enligten the pope. lunasun Apr 2016 #14
I doubt it. The entire premise of the RCC is based on utter nonsense. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #20
interesting or predictable? n/t Sheepshank Apr 2016 #18
He's helping to end the Colombian civil war, and helped normalize our relations with Cuba. killbotfactory Apr 2016 #21

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. I think a lot of ppl on the left are ambivalent or situationally supportive of the current Pope, and
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:37 PM
Apr 2016

it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why.

Specifically, after decades of hard-right, Opus Dei type leadership from the Vatican, this is arguably the first guy since John XXIII to really emphasize the social justice, Jesuit, "jesus said help the poor" side of things.

That said, I'm not a big fan of Popes, or the Vatican. If I want to take Moral Direction from an old guy in a big silly hat, I'll listen to Vermin Supreme.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
19. Nothing has changed. Pope Photo Op hasn't changed Vatican policy.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:10 PM
Apr 2016

That fucking church is still a cesspool of misogyny and corruption.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
6. more interesting is how Hillary is not
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:35 AM
Apr 2016

Popular with the pope or the people. Keep checking your mail Hillary. I'm sure your invite is just misplaced. Maybe it came email and you deleted it. Check your cloud.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. He's a bigot but he's right on economic justice
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:38 AM
Apr 2016

And that's what Bernie’s invited to speak on - a moral economy.

Meanwhile Hillary will be in CA schmoozing with the 1% at $300k/plate...

Some of us can hold two thoughts in our head at the same time.

After all I voted for Obama while he was still a bigot on LGBT matters...


Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #8)

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
13. The Sanders camp has flexible morals, they bend and twist to any possible outcome
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:42 AM
Apr 2016

Then) "The Pope is out of touch with America! His stance on LGBT rights is abhorrent!"

Now) "The Pope invited the Bern to visit! We the Pope!"

It's as transparent as glass.

rachacha

(173 posts)
16. I'm sure there is also room in your world view for nuance
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:07 PM
Apr 2016

I disagree with you vehemently on who is more fit to be the democratic nominee, but I'll bet there's a significant set of things we can agree on.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
17. I'm sure there are many things we can agree on
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:11 PM
Apr 2016

The least democrat is miles better than the best Republican; I will cheerfully vote for either Bernie or Hillary in the fall, whichever secures the nomination.

I wish more Sanders DU people could say the same.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
14. I hope he learns something by having Sanders visit . He hopefully will enligten the pope.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

religious homophobic super sexist celibate,
Bernie can chose not to affirm these beliefs while still addressing peace , climate change etc.
Both probably welcome the world stage for their voices on these subjects . I am for the meeting

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
20. I doubt it. The entire premise of the RCC is based on utter nonsense.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

It's not going to change. People just need to stop supporting that vile institution. No more butts in the pews, no more $ in the plate. That's the key.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
21. He's helping to end the Colombian civil war, and helped normalize our relations with Cuba.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

he has the usual regressive catholic social policies, but he's started chipping away at some of those, too.

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