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TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:42 PM Apr 2016

Another Big Bag of Fail from the Hillarians

Bernie's rising, no matter how often they repeat their lies. Yes, he was invited to the Vatican by an arm of the Vatican. No, you cannot "invite yourself" to activities and conferences the Vatican: what do you think it is, a Starbucks or a Ramada Inn?

You'll have to try harder if you want your lies to work.

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Another Big Bag of Fail from the Hillarians (Original Post) TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 OP
Sorry, friend, but Bernie's two latest wounds are self-inflicted. Major gaffes. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
answer the question: how does one "invite themselves" to conferences at the Vatican??? TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #2
That's a joke, right? You cannot be serious. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #4
Oh, the humanity! frylock Apr 2016 #6
That's what you've got? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #10
It's what I typed, so yeah. frylock Apr 2016 #12
you've been proven wrong, again: new source from Reuters TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #66
no, that's been completely debunked TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #8
Bullshit. He got his invitation, but he begged for it. THAT is documented and cannot be debunked. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #11
Begged for it? frylock Apr 2016 #14
Yeah, I know. It's pathetic that he did it and funny as hell that he's so desperate. Let me join you Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #18
Bernie's invite stings. That's pretty evident. frylock Apr 2016 #23
I couldn't care less about the invite. His begging for it, different story. And his lying about it? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #29
You're trying to hard, Buzz. frylock Apr 2016 #45
The Jealousy of the Hillary partisans renders them apoplectic AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #50
This is delish! azmom Apr 2016 #74
it isn't Bernie who is pathetic here TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #67
Proof, please. Amaril Apr 2016 #28
We've reviewed that claim, and come to this conclusion: frylock Apr 2016 #47
Please provide the "documented" proof he begged for it. nt revbones Apr 2016 #51
Be careful, your ignorance is showing. Avalux Apr 2016 #17
Uh, no. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #21
you don't get the difference between "accused" and "proven", do you? TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #24
So you're saying the director of the conference, Margaret Archer, appointed by the Pope, is lying? Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #32
"Accused" seems to rank pretty high for Sanders' followers when Hillary is concerned. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #48
The Chancellor of the Academy has contradicted this account. Avalux Apr 2016 #37
"the invitation would not have been extended unless the Pope agreed to it." Nope. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #38
so YOU know more about this than the Chancellor???? TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #40
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #46
Are you Catholic? Avalux Apr 2016 #42
And Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the Academy, is on record inviting him... nt revbones Apr 2016 #19
people apply everyday and get turned down. this one stands because the Pople wants it. roguevalley Apr 2016 #33
Now you're making shit up. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #34
No, you are clown. Check the new threads. The Vatican debunked your smear. It must be hurtful in the roguevalley Apr 2016 #52
like this one? SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #36
Only in the minds of Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #56
The VATICAN said they invited him angrychair Apr 2016 #71
they have nothing grasswire Apr 2016 #3
Nice try, but Bernie's pants are on fire from this one. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #7
LOL: is Bernie a time-traveling warlock??? TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #13
BWAHAHA. You'll be eating crow or more likely a stack of them if you keep this up. snagglepuss Apr 2016 #41
who the hell cares about your fantasies? grasswire Apr 2016 #54
These things aren't run like a corporate fund raiser Hillary. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #5
Sanders said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope...Vatican distances from Sander's riversedge Apr 2016 #9
here is the ACTUAL INVITATION TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #15
That invite is not from the pope. riversedge Apr 2016 #26
Hey! You're correct! Lookie-there! It's *NOT* from the Pope at all, is it? NurseJackie Apr 2016 #72
Sanders was name-dropping--and PANDERING FOR THE CATHOLIC VOTE riversedge Apr 2016 #73
I can do that too ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #75
Seriously. It must be disappointing to see over and again that Sanders is nothing special. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #16
One More Time: The Actual Invitation TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #20
One more time, Sanders begging for the invitation. FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE CONFERENCE Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #27
Bernie Sanders: Magical Hypnotist Who Controls the Vatican! TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #31
Can you read?? The invite is NOT from the pope riversedge Apr 2016 #39
Just FYI, Pontiffs and Regents do not invite guests directly. For example, if Queen Elizabeth wanted Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #58
SHHHHHH: Hillarians are DINO-splaining how the Vatican works!! TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #68
OMG Yes Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #78
Nowhere in that piece does it say what you're saying. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #65
That's 'cuz its a lie TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #69
Probably not as much to see over and over again the moral failings of Hillary. nt revbones Apr 2016 #22
Well as the media continues to slowly vet Bernie, the drama will continue --and will riversedge Apr 2016 #30
I have been horrified by them throughout the primary. stillwaiting Apr 2016 #25
Another lie debunked. These threads could simply be combined with the one with the bishop's letter. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #35
The Bishop's letter dated March 30? The Bishop did the invite without following protocol then? nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #49
Maybe Hillary called the Pope and asked him to make the invitation kind of ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #43
I posted the link from the director of the conference who I am quoting. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #44
And many have posted the actual invitation which disproves her comments revbones Apr 2016 #53
nope, nope nope TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #70
4 visible replies out of 54. This thread has a bad case and requires some... FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #55
I can only see 6 of 56 . . . fleur-de-lisa Apr 2016 #57
hmm...seems as though one slipped through your net! FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #60
I agree . . . fleur-de-lisa Apr 2016 #61
It will probably work on some though. Every voter that falls for their BS is a success I guess. NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #59
at least Reuters is finally reporting accurately TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #62
Doesn't matter, the fallout may just be a few small gains NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #64
LOL Old Codger Apr 2016 #63
75 replies and I see 12. Milestone Apr 2016 #76
Kick Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #77

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
2. answer the question: how does one "invite themselves" to conferences at the Vatican???
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

We're all waiting for your in-depth analysis and fearless truth-telling.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. That's a joke, right? You cannot be serious.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

The organizer of the conference is on record as being totally pissed that he requested the invitation.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
12. It's what I typed, so yeah.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe Hillary can crash this event like she did when she hunted down the Chinese.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
66. you've been proven wrong, again: new source from Reuters
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

The only question remains: if you continue to push this clearly debunked idiocy, are you intentionally lying or just another victim of cognitive dissonance and motivated increasing?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
8. no, that's been completely debunked
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016

But you can choose to ignore it and lie all you like. The results will be the same either way: Bernie wins.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
11. Bullshit. He got his invitation, but he begged for it. THAT is documented and cannot be debunked.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:51 PM
Apr 2016

Cling to your little lies if they give you comfort.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. Yeah, I know. It's pathetic that he did it and funny as hell that he's so desperate. Let me join you
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
29. I couldn't care less about the invite. His begging for it, different story. And his lying about it?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

Damn. Just damn.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
28. Proof, please.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

Post your source that says Bernie contacted the Vatican BEGGING to be allowed to attend this conference.

ps......applying to attend a conference is NOT "begging for an invitation." I apply to attend them all the time -- sometimes my application is accepted, sometimes it's not. Attendance is ALWAYS limited by space available, so not everyone who applies to attend receives an invitation.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
24. you don't get the difference between "accused" and "proven", do you?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:56 PM
Apr 2016

I think that actually you do understand it very, very well.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
32. So you're saying the director of the conference, Margaret Archer, appointed by the Pope, is lying?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:01 PM
Apr 2016

Holy shit. You've got brass. I'll give you that.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
37. The Chancellor of the Academy has contradicted this account.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:03 PM
Apr 2016

There is no discourtesy, there is no underhandedness going on here. It's apparent you're upset about this highly important turn of events. Sorry but your line of attack has been debunked.

Bottom line - the invitation would not have been extended unless the Pope agreed to it.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
38. "the invitation would not have been extended unless the Pope agreed to it." Nope.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

You're making it up.

Response to TheSarcastinator (Reply #40)

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
19. And Bishop Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, the chancellor of the Academy, is on record inviting him... nt
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
52. No, you are clown. Check the new threads. The Vatican debunked your smear. It must be hurtful in the
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:16 PM
Apr 2016

extreme for this to happen to her Majesty but lying for her when the Vatican has already debunked it is shameful. Lying is a sin. By the way, the invite was issued March 30. Have a great day.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
56. Only in the minds of Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:37 PM
Apr 2016

Number of fucks given by non-cultists: 0.

angrychair

(8,727 posts)
71. The VATICAN said they invited him
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

This is not true and she knows it. I invited him with her consensus," said Sorondo, who is senior to Archer.
An invitation to Sanders dated March 30, which was emailed to Reuters, was signed by Sorondo and also included Archer's name.

Mhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. they have nothing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

And are making up lies for shiny objects to distract the low information fans.

Bernie is surging. A tsunami. The more they flail, the bigger his wave.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
54. who the hell cares about your fantasies?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

If my candidate was dropping like a stone and had the FBI on his tail, I would be worried too.

But throwing chaff into the air hoping to change things is useless.

And you know it.

riversedge

(70,260 posts)
9. Sanders said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope...Vatican distances from Sander's
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:50 PM
Apr 2016



visit....the Sanders later drops the 'pope' when he speaks about this.

So, Sanders name drops the pope-the Vatican calls him on his big fish story--and then Sanders drops the word -pope-the next time he speaks. got it!





http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-04-08/sanders-accused-of-discourtesy-in-seeking-vatican-invitation



.............Respect for Pope

Sanders earlier on Friday said, “this is an invitation from the Vatican, from a pope that I have enormous respect for in term of the level of consciousness that he’s raising on the need to have morality in our economy."

The office of the pope moved quickly to distance the pontiff from Sanders’s visit.
Father Federico Lombardi, the Pope’s spokesman, said Sanders had been invited “not by the pope but by the pontifical academy of social sciences.” Lombardi told the Italian news agency Ansa: “For the moment there is no expectation that there will also be a meeting with the pope.”
.................

Sanders told reporters in New York on Friday that he is “very excited about this invitation from the Vatican to participate in a major conference dealing with how we can inject morality into today’s economy.”.................

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
72. Hey! You're correct! Lookie-there! It's *NOT* from the Pope at all, is it?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:48 PM
Apr 2016


Why would he say something that wasn't true? Was he confused? Did he only look at the postmark and ASSUME it was directly from the Pope. (I'd think that something that came directly from the Pope would at LEAST have a wax seal and be written in calligraphy on parchment.)

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
75. I can do that too ...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:56 PM
Apr 2016

... last year I was invited to Washington, DC to visit the White House to see President Obama. I was also invited to visit the Capitol to see members of Congress.

TOTALLY TRUE!!

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
20. One More Time: The Actual Invitation
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:54 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511681582

Bernie: a time travelling wizard who can even "invite himself" to the Vatican!

Truth matters: this is why Hillary is swiftly losing her marginal lead.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
31. Bernie Sanders: Magical Hypnotist Who Controls the Vatican!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

BWAHAHAHAHA. Keep flogging that horse, you savvy political operatives, you!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
58. Just FYI, Pontiffs and Regents do not invite guests directly. For example, if Queen Elizabeth wanted
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

you to come to tea, you would get an invitation from the Lord Chamberlain that he had been commanded to extend the invitation. You would not get a card saying 'The Queens asks you to come to tea' it would say 'The Lord Chamberlain has been commanded to invite riversedge to such and such and event'. It's never going to say Liz is asking you. She is serene.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
65. Nowhere in that piece does it say what you're saying.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

Please pull out the section where it says Bernie begged for an invite

riversedge

(70,260 posts)
30. Well as the media continues to slowly vet Bernie, the drama will continue --and will
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:00 PM
Apr 2016

manifest itself in OP's such as this.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
25. I have been horrified by them throughout the primary.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

I seem to have very little in common with them in regards to values.

Very little.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
43. Maybe Hillary called the Pope and asked him to make the invitation kind of ...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016

... unclear so as to get Bernie to think it was from the Pope himself, so then later Bernie could be called out for misstating who actually invited him.

Hillary is sneaky like that!!!!

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
44. I posted the link from the director of the conference who I am quoting.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:07 PM
Apr 2016
You'll have to try harder if you want your lies to work.


Sorry, but "lie" implies what I am saying is wrong; but I am 100% correct and documented it.

Shove your insults where the sun don't shine; the truth is on my side.
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
53. And many have posted the actual invitation which disproves her comments
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:17 PM
Apr 2016

In particular, it was dated far enough back to disprove her timeline.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
70. nope, nope nope
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

Quit lying. It's tiring and does nothing but humiliate your cause.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
60. hmm...seems as though one slipped through your net!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

I just do not understand why Bernie supporters keep engaging these trolls. Their only purpose is to get people to become disgusted and disengage. They rely on ignorance to help their horrible candidate and we should not be engaging them in any way.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
62. at least Reuters is finally reporting accurately
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-vatican-idUSKCN0X5257

"U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders was invited to speak at an April 15 Vatican event by the Vatican, a senior papal official said on Friday, denying a report that Sanders had invited himself.

"I deny that. It was not that way," Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo told Reuters in a telephone interview while he was traveling in New York. Sorondo, a close aide to Pope Francis, is chancellor of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, which is hosting the event.

He said it was his idea to invite Sanders."
 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
64. Doesn't matter, the fallout may just be a few small gains
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

but it all adds up...at least that's what the Hillary crowd is banking on.

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