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Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:07 PM Apr 2016

Bernie is finally going to get some Foreign Policy Experience to add to his resume

It may not be much, it's not really negotiating with a political leader, and he will be in the same town as a foreign leader, but it's pretty much all he has...or will have...maybe.

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Bernie is finally going to get some Foreign Policy Experience to add to his resume (Original Post) Sheepshank Apr 2016 OP
Like Obama n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #1
Obama wasn't competing with the experiences that Hillary has on the table Sheepshank Apr 2016 #6
And she lost. Just like she'll do this time n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #16
Her experience is in getting things horribly wrong over and over and over again. Motown_Johnny Apr 2016 #33
And in the process has created a situation where Vatican officials are publicly fighting. Lucinda Apr 2016 #2
not only did he misrepresent the invitation, he misrepresented his "visit" with the Pope DrDan Apr 2016 #4
I had heard that he said that, but hadn't watched the vid yet. Lucinda Apr 2016 #14
here you go - "You're meeting with the Pope?" . . . "Yep" DrDan Apr 2016 #19
Thanks! I certainly can agree with what he likes about the pope, but this is akin Lucinda Apr 2016 #25
I know - he seems to be implying a closer familiarity than really exists (probably) DrDan Apr 2016 #28
I was married to a guy like that once. He always embellished even if the base story Lucinda Apr 2016 #39
it's like they do not understand that the truth will come out DrDan Apr 2016 #42
I still suspect the core of it comes from someone else, and he has been going along Lucinda Apr 2016 #51
How do you know he's not going to meet the Pope? Avalux Apr 2016 #30
I am quite sure the Pope is seeking his counsel DrDan Apr 2016 #34
It's not Bernie's fault someone caught some feelings NWCorona Apr 2016 #8
He'll probably get a lot better advice from Frank than Hillary got from Henry. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #3
Would you rather nichomachus Apr 2016 #5
the FACT that he financed all those bombings, trainings, and firearms is pertinent to your post Sheepshank Apr 2016 #9
Support the troops! Fumesucker Apr 2016 #35
no generic line items...it was specific to funding the war Sheepshank Apr 2016 #55
That was my first thought as well! reformist2 Apr 2016 #53
Well, he did go hang out with the Sandinistas that one time, too. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #7
while he voted to finance it......n/t Sheepshank Apr 2016 #12
Doyou suggest that he should have abandoned our soldiers? Human101948 Apr 2016 #32
I suggest that he voted to fund a war he found abhorrent Sheepshank Apr 2016 #56
Like Hillary did right? Human101948 Apr 2016 #60
He went to Russia on his honeymoon. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #10
Ah! The Sandinistas and the Soviet Union. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #15
It probably will Kalidurga Apr 2016 #20
Which ordinary people in the Soviet Union were those? NuclearDem Apr 2016 #21
Your desperation is showing Kalidurga Apr 2016 #22
I know exactly where he went. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #29
But, you still love America right? Kalidurga Apr 2016 #36
America didn't round up members of my family and execute them. NuclearDem Apr 2016 #40
Well it happened in my family. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #43
Their desperation is getting more profound by the day n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #17
Very profound indeed. Another typical Hillmole added to my naughty list. desmiller Apr 2016 #23
I know I shouldn't laugh at their deterioration, but it's Hillaryous! frylock Apr 2016 #58
Keep it up. You could power a city with the spin. Armstead Apr 2016 #11
I'd rather have someone with 0 experience... basselope Apr 2016 #13
too bad Bernie lied about the whole visit, purpose and how it came to be Sheepshank Apr 2016 #18
Someone's lying alright but it's not Bernie: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #26
oh religion serves you well sometimes? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #45
ALCOA!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #47
I cant help it if your artful picture of a letter looks fake. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #50
Awww... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #52
OMG, reminds me of the Birthers: "That COLB doesn't look legit!" CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #63
They remind me of birthers too, the h8ers are getting desperate. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #64
Are you referring to that debunked story? basselope Apr 2016 #54
It's a shame he couldn't be part and parcel to a few regime changes. timmymoff Apr 2016 #24
Ha. Learn how to wiggle out of using the Pope as endorsement when Pope had no interest influencing seabeyond Apr 2016 #27
What foreign policy experience did Governor Bill Clinton have when he was elected? jillan Apr 2016 #31
True... Hillary certainly has a lot more experience fucking up foreign policy. Marr Apr 2016 #37
Silly Senators don't ever pay attention to Foreign Affairs. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #38
Poor Bernie. He doesn't have blowing up the Middle East to put on his resume. Skwmom Apr 2016 #41
but he can certainly add financing bombings, guns, training etc, just fine. not to worry. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #48
lol... asuhornets Apr 2016 #44
What qualifies as foreign policy experience? tm1323 Apr 2016 #46
some election cycles it means more that others. Depending who the candidate is competing with. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #49
Nothing like overthrowing governments and creating safe havens for ISIS.. frylock Apr 2016 #57
Jesus you guys aren't even trying any more ibegurpard Apr 2016 #59
Give them a break....It gets tiring churning out faux outrage Armstead Apr 2016 #61
Hey, I attended seminars in the Netherlands. itsrobert Apr 2016 #62
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
6. Obama wasn't competing with the experiences that Hillary has on the table
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

his experience levels were on par with most of the other candidates.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
33. Her experience is in getting things horribly wrong over and over and over again.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie has been right over and over and over again.


Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
2. And in the process has created a situation where Vatican officials are publicly fighting.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:11 PM
Apr 2016

While he certainly isn't responsible for the Vatican infighting, his statement about the nature of his invitation has created a heck of a mess. And If he did misrepresent his invitation, he has some ownership of the situation.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
4. not only did he misrepresent the invitation, he misrepresented his "visit" with the Pope
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

very clearly said on The View that he would be meeting with the Pope

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
14. I had heard that he said that, but hadn't watched the vid yet.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

I'm seeing Sanders supporters saying the media attention over this situation is a great thing, but I doubt the State Dept thinks so.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
25. Thanks! I certainly can agree with what he likes about the pope, but this is akin
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:30 PM
Apr 2016

to those headlines that he used in that video where the entities he listed had actually endorsed Hillary. They could have just made a video about the good things being said about Bernie, but they just had to imply that those agencies had actually endorsed him. The original video was titled "Endorsements"

This is very misleading, at best.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
39. I was married to a guy like that once. He always embellished even if the base story
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

was wonderful on it's own. It's pathological in some people. And sooo unnecessary.

I don't know where this trait comes from in the Sanders campaign, I've never noticed it in Bernie before this, and I used to follow his FB page and shared it often, but I suppose I could have missed it. Whoever is slanting things is really not doing Bernie's campaign any favors.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
42. it's like they do not understand that the truth will come out
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

I used to respect him as a honest and trustworthy person . . . but that is fading

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
51. I still suspect the core of it comes from someone else, and he has been going along
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:50 PM
Apr 2016

I say that because he didn't want to run as a Dem, he let them talk him into it, and after getting angry when asked if he was a Dem and having to answer that he was, he finally outted himself when he said he ran for the resources and media access. I wouldn't have lost any respect for him if he'd just said up front that you have to run Dem or Rep to get a fair shot, so he made the choice. But he didnt say that.

And I also don't like his breaking his word about downticket fundraising. That alone would have lost my support if he had been my candidate. Anyone who doesn't see the need to work to elect Dems, isn't someone I want in a leadership position.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
30. How do you know he's not going to meet the Pope?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:33 PM
Apr 2016

It is possible that Bernie knows something you don't.

You people are so upset about this it's hilarious.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
8. It's not Bernie's fault someone caught some feelings
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:15 PM
Apr 2016

If anyone is to blame it's the ones who tried to make something out of this.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
5. Would you rather
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

that he bomb a few hundred thousand women and children and destroy a few democracies? Apparently that's what the Clintonists think counts as "experience."

By the Clinton standards, Bonnie and Clyde had a wealth of banking "experience."

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. the FACT that he financed all those bombings, trainings, and firearms is pertinent to your post
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

...yet you attempt to miss that important point. Loser argument for sure.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
35. Support the troops!
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

I actually saw one of those stickers a few weeks ago, it had been quite a while.

Even my family member who kept a flag on top of her car for six months after the invasion never thinks about it any more.

As a vet let me say, thank you for your support.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
7. Well, he did go hang out with the Sandinistas that one time, too.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:14 PM
Apr 2016

Also, Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq did I tell you he voted against Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
32. Doyou suggest that he should have abandoned our soldiers?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:34 PM
Apr 2016

Chintzed on weapons and armor like Bush and Cheney did?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
56. I suggest that he voted to fund a war he found abhorrent
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:05 PM
Apr 2016

he voted Yes...he could have voted "no" and you do realize they soldiers would still have been sent out with the full finding the got anyway. His one "No" would have made no difference to the finding but it would have sent a message.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
60. Like Hillary did right?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:28 PM
Apr 2016

Her message was blow the Goddamn Iraqis to hell and gone. You and your compadres are a bunch of hypocritical jerks.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
10. He went to Russia on his honeymoon.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

He lived in a Kibbutz. And his visits to Central American countries have been thoroughly criticized. And now you want to pretend Bernie has never been outside of the US.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy/470019/

You look more idiotic by the day. I would suggest you delete this nonsense, but it is far to entertaining.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
20. It probably will
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:20 PM
Apr 2016

I love he went to the Soviet Union to talk to regular people there. He is always talking to regular people. He did it when he was a Mayor and he continues to do so. And now he is going to the Vatican to talk about issues a whole lot of people are dealing with. And all Hillarians can talk about is Bernie hasn't been anywhere when in fact he has been to 41 different countries. So have a nice day and try not to lie or obfuscate too much.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
21. Which ordinary people in the Soviet Union were those?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:24 PM
Apr 2016

The ones forcibly relocated outside their homelands, the ones sent off to rot in the gulags, the ones who were rounded up and shot, or the ones who carried out the first three?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
22. Your desperation is showing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

He went to Burlington's sister city Yaroslavl, Russia. It looks like it was too much trouble for you to look that up in your haste to be snarky. And disgusting by the way. Keep red baiting though it suits you.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
40. America didn't round up members of my family and execute them.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:40 PM
Apr 2016

Those people, unlike the Americans who carried out the genocide of Natives, are still very much alive, and many are still in power. A lot of them definitely were when Bernie decided to go pay a visit.

So, again, fuck the USSR.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
43. Well it happened in my family.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

But, I wouldn't crap on someone because they visit the United States. YMMV.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
13. I'd rather have someone with 0 experience...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

Than someone with a record of complete and utter failure, like Clinton.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
18. too bad Bernie lied about the whole visit, purpose and how it came to be
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:18 PM
Apr 2016

the Papal office is distancing themselves from the whole thing...what a fucking joke, right?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
45. oh religion serves you well sometimes?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:46 PM
Apr 2016

I wonder why the letterhead and the bottom address info is blurred and the rest of the document so clear?

it looks like the content of the letter was superimposed onto another set of stored data.

 

CentralCoaster

(1,163 posts)
63. OMG, reminds me of the Birthers: "That COLB doesn't look legit!"
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:32 PM
Apr 2016

Fuck me, we've been through this once already!

Too funny!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
64. They remind me of birthers too, the h8ers are getting desperate.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:35 PM
Apr 2016

I can't wait to see what they come up with next.


 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
24. It's a shame he couldn't be part and parcel to a few regime changes.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:30 PM
Apr 2016

Would 4500 more soldiers dead help him achieve the chops you desire? How about some region destabilization, would he then be on par with Hillary? Quite possibly 20,000 injured and/ or suffering from ptsd soldiers woiuld bring him up to her high caliber? Should he support Kissinger and name drop him to earn such a high standard like Hillary has set? Possibly a coup in Honduras? If you elevate these actions as experience, then I do not want that type of experience because it seems to be a long list of fuck ups to me.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. Ha. Learn how to wiggle out of using the Pope as endorsement when Pope had no interest influencing
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:31 PM
Apr 2016

U.S. elections?

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
38. Silly Senators don't ever pay attention to Foreign Affairs.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

Which means Hillary was just dropped into the role of Secretary of State with Zip, Zilch and Nada, right?

First one in forever who wasn't an actual professor with academic credentials.

Maybe she would have done a better job of helping to promote world peace if she had some schooling behind her.

We'll see how Bernie does. I think he'll be fine. He's quite a statesman - used to finding areas to build consensus in.

And, if he gets a good Secretary of State (who knows how to obey the law when it comes to keeping national security information out of the hands of hackers and spies), all the better.

Go, Team Bernie!

tm1323

(23 posts)
46. What qualifies as foreign policy experience?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 04:46 PM
Apr 2016

Do you have to be Secretary of State first to be President? Is that the requirement? How ridiculous. The guy's been in Congress since 1991, voting on consequential foreign policy decisions. But I guess only Sec of States are qualified to be President.

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