2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie is finally going to get some Foreign Policy Experience to add to his resume
It may not be much, it's not really negotiating with a political leader, and he will be in the same town as a foreign leader, but it's pretty much all he has...or will have...maybe.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)his experience levels were on par with most of the other candidates.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Bernie has been right over and over and over again.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)While he certainly isn't responsible for the Vatican infighting, his statement about the nature of his invitation has created a heck of a mess. And If he did misrepresent his invitation, he has some ownership of the situation.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)very clearly said on The View that he would be meeting with the Pope
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I'm seeing Sanders supporters saying the media attention over this situation is a great thing, but I doubt the State Dept thinks so.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)to those headlines that he used in that video where the entities he listed had actually endorsed Hillary. They could have just made a video about the good things being said about Bernie, but they just had to imply that those agencies had actually endorsed him. The original video was titled "Endorsements"
This is very misleading, at best.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)was wonderful on it's own. It's pathological in some people. And sooo unnecessary.
I don't know where this trait comes from in the Sanders campaign, I've never noticed it in Bernie before this, and I used to follow his FB page and shared it often, but I suppose I could have missed it. Whoever is slanting things is really not doing Bernie's campaign any favors.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)I used to respect him as a honest and trustworthy person . . . but that is fading
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I say that because he didn't want to run as a Dem, he let them talk him into it, and after getting angry when asked if he was a Dem and having to answer that he was, he finally outted himself when he said he ran for the resources and media access. I wouldn't have lost any respect for him if he'd just said up front that you have to run Dem or Rep to get a fair shot, so he made the choice. But he didnt say that.
And I also don't like his breaking his word about downticket fundraising. That alone would have lost my support if he had been my candidate. Anyone who doesn't see the need to work to elect Dems, isn't someone I want in a leadership position.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)It is possible that Bernie knows something you don't.
You people are so upset about this it's hilarious.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)being the amendment-king and all . . .
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)If anyone is to blame it's the ones who tried to make something out of this.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)that he bomb a few hundred thousand women and children and destroy a few democracies? Apparently that's what the Clintonists think counts as "experience."
By the Clinton standards, Bonnie and Clyde had a wealth of banking "experience."
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)...yet you attempt to miss that important point. Loser argument for sure.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I actually saw one of those stickers a few weeks ago, it had been quite a while.
Even my family member who kept a flag on top of her car for six months after the invasion never thinks about it any more.
As a vet let me say, thank you for your support.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)no funding, no war
reformist2
(9,841 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Also, Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq did I tell you he voted against Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)Chintzed on weapons and armor like Bush and Cheney did?
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)he voted Yes...he could have voted "no" and you do realize they soldiers would still have been sent out with the full finding the got anyway. His one "No" would have made no difference to the finding but it would have sent a message.
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Her message was blow the Goddamn Iraqis to hell and gone. You and your compadres are a bunch of hypocritical jerks.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)He lived in a Kibbutz. And his visits to Central American countries have been thoroughly criticized. And now you want to pretend Bernie has never been outside of the US.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/bernie-sanders-foreign-policy/470019/
You look more idiotic by the day. I would suggest you delete this nonsense, but it is far to entertaining.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That'll win him all sorts of voters.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I love he went to the Soviet Union to talk to regular people there. He is always talking to regular people. He did it when he was a Mayor and he continues to do so. And now he is going to the Vatican to talk about issues a whole lot of people are dealing with. And all Hillarians can talk about is Bernie hasn't been anywhere when in fact he has been to 41 different countries. So have a nice day and try not to lie or obfuscate too much.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)The ones forcibly relocated outside their homelands, the ones sent off to rot in the gulags, the ones who were rounded up and shot, or the ones who carried out the first three?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)He went to Burlington's sister city Yaroslavl, Russia. It looks like it was too much trouble for you to look that up in your haste to be snarky. And disgusting by the way. Keep red baiting though it suits you.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)And I still don't care. Fuck that genocidal criminal regime.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Those people, unlike the Americans who carried out the genocide of Natives, are still very much alive, and many are still in power. A lot of them definitely were when Bernie decided to go pay a visit.
So, again, fuck the USSR.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, I wouldn't crap on someone because they visit the United States. YMMV.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)Than someone with a record of complete and utter failure, like Clinton.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)the Papal office is distancing themselves from the whole thing...what a fucking joke, right?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I wonder why the letterhead and the bottom address info is blurred and the rest of the document so clear?
it looks like the content of the letter was superimposed onto another set of stored data.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Fuck me, we've been through this once already!
Too funny!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I can't wait to see what they come up with next.
basselope
(2,565 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)Would 4500 more soldiers dead help him achieve the chops you desire? How about some region destabilization, would he then be on par with Hillary? Quite possibly 20,000 injured and/ or suffering from ptsd soldiers woiuld bring him up to her high caliber? Should he support Kissinger and name drop him to earn such a high standard like Hillary has set? Possibly a coup in Honduras? If you elevate these actions as experience, then I do not want that type of experience because it seems to be a long list of fuck ups to me.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)U.S. elections?
jillan
(39,451 posts)Oh right! NONE!
Marr
(20,317 posts)?itok=TT0P_v2k
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Which means Hillary was just dropped into the role of Secretary of State with Zip, Zilch and Nada, right?
First one in forever who wasn't an actual professor with academic credentials.
Maybe she would have done a better job of helping to promote world peace if she had some schooling behind her.
We'll see how Bernie does. I think he'll be fine. He's quite a statesman - used to finding areas to build consensus in.
And, if he gets a good Secretary of State (who knows how to obey the law when it comes to keeping national security information out of the hands of hackers and spies), all the better.
Go, Team Bernie!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)Italy is a place we definitely need to keep an eye on.... <<<SARCASM>>>
tm1323
(23 posts)Do you have to be Secretary of State first to be President? Is that the requirement? How ridiculous. The guy's been in Congress since 1991, voting on consequential foreign policy decisions. But I guess only Sec of States are qualified to be President.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)but it's a start.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Pathetic
Armstead
(47,803 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I have more Foreign Policy experience than Bernie. LOL