2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDid CNN just say that Bernie flipped Missouri?
There was news that this might happen but I haven't seen anything official. Now I got a few texts saying that CNN say that he took MO.
I don't have cable so can anyone confirm?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)elleng
(131,021 posts)It appears that Sanders ended up with more county delegates than Hillary because her delegates did not show up again. This is the only proof i have so far.
https://twitter.com/LiberalLaTchr/status/718307075080720384
Edit: Still no confirmation but I found this and it looks good for us: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S9OvnGBIFEdaXx7tGL6tdRAH1qX02IJQtnOD1blpMpY/htmlview?pli=1
According to the Missouri for Sanders Facebook page, people who caucused for him are saying that he won.There should be official confirmation sometimes soon so don't get too excited just yet.
Edit: To clarify, yes Missouri was a primary but the party changed the rules in the last second so what happened was that the delegates held a caucus, and it appears that Bernie won. http://www.abc17news.com/news/midmissouri-democrats-hold-caucus/38924846
https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4dv51a/sanders_wins_missouri_unconfirmed_yet/
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)This was a very close primary as well .02%.
But still Hilary won the vote in the state, this whole thing is getting very frustrating to me.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)at a lower level... i.e., getting a landslide in one area and crickets in another can put you in a situation where you have more votes but fewer delegates.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)I am guessing there is a precinct, a local and then a state caucus step...then onto the National convention.
I work for myself, so I am planning on going all the way if I can.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)wilsonbooks
(972 posts)elleng
(131,021 posts)and propaganda.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)It was through tightly clenched teeth ...
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)MO was a very very close contest, so it wouldn't surprise me.
appalachiablue
(41,156 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)They had a "binding" primary. The delegate numbers were set on primary day. Wikipedia has it at 36-35 for Hillary.
There were county & city conventions yesterday across Missouri, and what is circulating today is a tally sheet of the number of delegates for Hillary and Bernie coming out of those conventions, and Bernie appears ahead on that count. And even though those numbers are probably correct, they are likely deceptive, since these delegates will then go to their respective districts, which then will send delegates to state. It's quite possible that some districts for various quirky reasons may have more delegates in total at their conventions than in other districts. If that's the case, then the raw delegate count could show Bernie "ahead". But in reality, when they go to their district and state conventions, it will still boil down to 36 for Hillary and 35 delegates for Bernie.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Hillary better get on point.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)and now Bernie's campaign openly admits they can't win the nomination at the ballot box via voters and pledged delegates so they will try to turn the super delegates against Hillary.
Bernie's campaign isn't interested in the will of the voters.
They're only interested in getting power.
But they will be denied.
dubyadiprecession
(5,719 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,210 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Until you have actual instances of Bernie flipping pledged delegates I'll hold my breath.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)This is the process, right?
Can't change the rules midstream, right?
Bernie has to play by the rules of the Democratic Party, right?
If Hillary's people are so unmotivated to not show, that's on her, not Bernie.
As for super delegates, neither candidate has a chance of securing enough delegates to win the nomination without super delegates. Supers are not bound to vote any particular way. In other words, the supers will decide who the nominee is one way or the other. Save your feigned righteous indignation.
jillan
(39,451 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)is that everyone will assume you're a liar all the time.
Case in point: I believe nothing you say.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)that they cannot make sure that their delegates
show up? It should be easy, because she has such
a large organization.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)No matter how many times you try to say it is
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)and turn out her delegates. The rules haven't changed.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Apparently, some Hillary delegates didn't show up. Again.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)And Team Hill has made a massive blunder in assuming that they could sail along with what they had before.
"We're going into GE mode!"
Uhhh...you may want to keep people engaged for more than a few minutes. Just sayin'.
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riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Wow!! Yay Bernie!
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)This is how it happens when people don't live up to their commitments and fail to show up!!