WHOA!!! Harper's -- Clintons’ charitable enterprise is a vehicle to launder money and enrich friends

[FourScore]

This article is from November 2015. How did it get such little attention? This is shocking stuff! Holy Shit! If the Republicans have all of this information from their Benghazi hearings and they are just sitting on it - then the democrats are fucked!!!. They have all they need to annihilate Hillary in the general. Is this why the FBI is taking so long? Holy shit!!!

Shaky Foundations
The Clintons’ so-called charitable enterprise has served as a vehicle to launder money and to enrich family friends.
By Ken Silverstein

...One money-laundering expert and former intelligence officer based in the Middle East who had access to the foundation’s confidential banking information told me that members of royal families in Middle Eastern countries, including Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, have donated money to the CGEP that has then been sluiced through to the Clinton Foundation. He added that the CGEP has also received money from corrupt officials in South Africa during the regime of Jacob Zuma and from senior officials in Equatorial Guinea, one of the most brutal and crooked dictatorships in the world. “Equatorial Guinea doesn’t give to the Clinton Foundation in New York because it’s too embarrassing,” he said. “They give the money anonymously in Canada and that buys them political protection in the United States. The Clinton Foundation is a professionally structured money-laundering operation.”

SNIP

“I can’t say for certain that it’s illegal because I don’t have access to all the financial information but at best they are skating along the edge,” the source added. “They get away with it because the major media outlets are too lazy to look into it but the [Congressional] Benghazi Committee has access to the key information, and so do government agencies like the IRS, the SEC and the FEC. If you put together the information that all of these agencies have it’s obvious that the foundation is a fraud.”

SNIP

Bill and Hillary Clinton have in tandem made enormous sums of money since Bill left the White House. According to the Washington Post, they netted at least $136.5 million between 2001 and 2012. “All the Benghazi committee has to do is match up Hillary’s travel as secretary of state with Bill’s speaking arrangements,” my source in the Middle East said. “Bill heads out to foreign countries and he gets paid huge amounts of money for a thirty-minute speech and then she heads out for an official visit as a favor. She racked up more miles than any secretary of state [other than Condoleezza Rice] and that’s one of the reasons why. How can they get away with that? The committee is either corrupt or incompetent, or both.”

There are other signs that the Clintons and their foundation may have violated federal, state, and international law. Under Treasury Department money-laundering rules, the Clinton Foundation is required to disclose every financial account it holds abroad. It has failed to disclose an account linked to the CGEP on its past eight tax returns.

SNIP

Its biggest donors include some truly wonderful people and countries. There are, to name a few, the torture-happy, terror-exporting government of Saudi Arabia; a foundation controlled by Victor Pinchuk, a Ukrainian oligarch accused of bribery and corruption; and Frank Giustra, a penny-stock artist who became filthy rich with the generous assistance of Bill Clinton. In 2008, a former Kazakh official told reporters that Giustra, who established the CGEP with Clinton, donated millions to the foundation after Clinton helped him purchase uranium deposits in Kazakhstan. (At the time, Giustra denied this claim, pointing out that he had been engaged in mining deals in Kazakhstan since the 1990s.)

The Clinton Foundation has received more than $1 billion over the years to purchase HIV/AIDS drugs for poor people in Africa, Asia, and elsewhere. However, a unit set up to receive the money—the Clinton Foundation HIV/AIDS Initiative, Inc., which was run by Ira Magaziner, a Clinton administration veteran with close ties to Hillary—clearly spent far, far less than it took in. In fact, the unit’s accounting practices were so shoddy that its license was revoked by the state of Massachusetts, where it was headquartered.

https://harpers.org/blog/2015/11/shaky-foundations/

[amborin]

1. a giant slush fund; a celebration of cronyism and corruption

[IdaBriggs]

2. I personally think the FBI is investigating things the Clintons don't

REALLY want them to investigate.

But I am going to rely on the judgment of the folks there.

We shall see...

[AgerolanAmerican]

28. Yes I agree

classified markings and even destruction of government documents are probably the least of her problems

it's the bribe-taking and quid pro quos provided which are the real meat here!

Did our foreign policy change in any way as a result of donations to the Clinton Foundation?

If the FBI - or NSA, which I suspect is also involved - has been asking this question, her legal jeopardy is unlimited.

[Betty Karlson]

43. We know that Clinton conferred with Blumenthal - in direct violation

of President Obama's instructions to the contrary. Blumenthal is a big donor of the Clintons' foundation.

[glinda]

3. What also scares me is that they may see this as normal behavior.

Out of touch with not just the Country but also out of touch with what either is or appears as corruption.

They and others have been isolated for too too long in their bubble on Washington.

[Agony]

18. It looks like Naomi Klein agrees with the gist of what you are saying here as well...

"To understand this worldview, one need look no further than the foundation at which Hillary Clinton works and which bears her family name. The mission of the Clinton Foundation can be distilled as follows: There is so much private wealth sloshing around our planet (thanks in very large part to the deregulation and privatization frenzy that Bill Clinton unleashed on the world while president), that every single problem on earth, no matter how large, can be solved by convincing the ultra-rich to do the right things with their loose change. Naturally, the people to convince them to do these fine things are the Clintons, the ultimate relationship brokers and dealmakers, with the help of an entourage of A-list celebrities."

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-problem-with-hillary-clinton-isnt-just-her-corporate-cash-its-her-corporate-worldview/

I have to agree with both of you.

[Baobab]

4. Huge amounts of money earmarked for building housing in Haiti apparently vanished too.

Thank you for posting this.

[Dragonfli]

16. Actually they used the money to build a luxury hotel on the other side of town

From the poor people that needed housing, so in their minds, "they built housing", just temporary housing for rich people.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/haiti-reconstruction-luxury-hotels-sweat-shops-and-deregulation-for-the-foreign-corporate-elite/5344546

[Divernan]

27. When corporate honchos visit to set up factories exploiting $3.85/DAY wages,

they need a safely isolated and luxurious place to stay. Meanwhile some 200,000 Haitians are still living in squalor/shanties with no electricity, sewers or running water.

Heckuva Job, Clinton Foundation!

It's just SUPER that you "facilitated" a luxury Marriott Hotel with 173 rooms for $45 million (do the math - that's $260,000 per room) to house visiting corporate exploiters. Don't you worry about those hundreds of thousands of Haitians still living in slums with no electricity, sanitation or running water! And then there were those millions spent developing 5 industrial parks for corporate investors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/12/haiti-earthquake-homelessness_n_6456362.html


According to a new report by Amnesty International, there are 85,432 people in Haiti (comprising 22,741 households) who remain homeless because of the 2010 earthquake. As the report explains, the natural disaster exposed the dire state of housing in Haiti, where a large portion of people had lived in substandard homes that were built by residents using inadequate materials and poor construction techniques.

"Five years ago, the eyes of the world were on Haiti after the devastating earthquake tore lives apart and left more than 2 million people homeless," Chiara Liguori, Caribbean researcher at Amnesty International, said. "Sadly, since then, the world’s interest has waned while tens of thousands of people remain destitute and homeless."

Although the number of people living in displacement camps has dropped over 90 percent since July 2010, the majority of those who left are still not living in durable housing, the report notes -- many have moved back into unsafe structures or began construction on their own homes without expert assistance.

As NBC News reported, at least 200,000 people reside in slums known as Canaan-Jerusalem, where there's no electricity, running water or sanitation system in place.

The situation -- which could " and the pre-earthquake housing crisis" if another disaster strikes -- doesn't hold up to the Haitian government's "build back better" slogan often touted by aid organizations in the months following the earthquake.

The dire situation has left some questioning where the billions of dollars for aid relief has gone and if it has been spent effectively, according to NBC News. The outlet reported that the United Nations has recorded about $13.34 billion in donated funds for Haiti reconstruction through 2020.

[Avalon Sparks]

57. YOu got to be shitting me?

Just right out in the open giving everyone the finger.

The ruling class has no shame.

[Dragonfli]

59. I shit you not! /nt

[Divernan]

29. Clinton Foundation's corporate donors $$$ spent for corp.s to exploit cheap labor.

Haiti's 2010 earthquake/floods/mudslides are a prime example: The 7.0-magnitude earthquake killed about 316,000 people and affected about 3 million of Haiti's 9 million residents, according to the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). - hundreds of thousands homeless from mudslides. The Clinton Foundation brokered (for a fee) a deal for a $45 million luxury hotel to provide (2 years down the road) 173 new rooms. That is $260,115.60 per room! What percent of that $45 million did slick Willie grift off the top of that for "facilitating"?

Billy Boy brokers construction of a luxury hotel for corporate bigwigs/"potential investors" who visit to learn how they can exploit dirt cheap labor if they build/lease in the corporate "park" Bill also "facilitates".

Two years after a 7.0-magnitude earthquake leveled Haiti's capital, a deal brokered by former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation will add new lodging for aid workers and other travelers to Port-au-Prince -- in the form of a $45 million hotel.

Caribbean cell phone provider Digicel will own the hotel, which will have 173 new rooms and create 175 new jobs. Marriott Hotels and Resorts will operate the hotel upon completion in 2014. Construction is set to begin in 2012.

Clinton praised the project for creating jobs and attracting visitors in a statement from the William J. Clinton Foundation. "My foundation has worked with both Marriott and Digicel, and encouraged them to form this partnership," the president said.

The Clinton Foundation "visited proposed construction sites with the parties and facilitated introductions to the Haitian government and the Haitian Tourism Association," according to Digicel and Marriott.

Digicel claims to be Haiti's largest private investor and cell phone provider and touts its charitable contributions to the Clinton Global Initiative.


Then check out the industrial park where Clinton's corporate buddies are ripping off local workers:

Clintons' Pet Project for Privatized 'Aid' to Haiti Stealing Workers' Wages (headline)
'This calls into question the sustainability and effectiveness of relying on the garment industry to lead Haiti's reconstruction' (subheadline)
Haiti's Caracol Industrial Park—the U.S. State Department and Clinton Foundation pet project to deliver aid and reconstruction to earthquake-ravaged Haiti in the form of private investment—is systematically stealing its garment workers' wages, paying them 34 percent less than minimum wage set by federal law, a breaking report from the Worker Rights Consortium reveals.

Critics charge that poverty wages illustrate the deep flaws with corporate models of so-called aid. "The failure of the Caracol Industrial Park to comply with minimum wage laws is a stain on the U.S.'s post-earthquake investments in Haiti and calls into question the sustainability and effectiveness of relying on the garment industry to lead Haiti's reconstruction," said Jake Johnston of the Center for Economic and Policy Research in an interview with Common Dreams.

Caracol is just one of five garment factories profiled in this damning report, released publicly on Wednesday, which finds that "the majority of Haitian garment workers are being denied nearly a third of the wages they are legally due as a result of the factories’ theft of their income." This is due to systematic employer cheating on piece-work and overtime, as well as failure to pay employees for hours worked.

WRC charges that the wage theft at these 5 factories is "typical" across the country's garment industry, leading to the suppression of national wages at deep poverty levels. As a result, workers have trouble affording food, shelter, and medical care, the report finds.

Of course the infrastructure projects were built in areas of the island undamaged by the earthquake/floods/landslides.

Awww, but what about those heart-warming pictures of Bill & Chelsea with little girls at a school in some 3rd world African pocket of poverty? Well, see, now those girls will have enough basic education to be literate enough to be the work force for said corporations. Put up a basic health clinic to innoculate them against disease and then teach em birth control so they won't stop working because they're pregnant. Gotta have a dependable source of slave-labor.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/28/world/americas/haiti-hotel-clinton/index.html

There's tons more scandals in Haiti - I'm just giving you the tip of the iceberg here. And that is only ONE of the countries Bill is exploiting under the pretense of philanthropy.

[Jitter65]

5. Speculation again. The Foundation has already been investigated. Some money had to be

returned just like Bernie had to return money from his campaign. Try again.,

[FourScore]

7. Do I believe an anonymous poster and Hillary supporter or Harper's? I'm going with Harper's!!

But thanks for playin'!

[dsc]

38. actually you believe an anonymous Middle Easterner

[FourScore]

39. Intelligence officer based in the Middle East. Like I said, I believe HARPER'S.

They don't let just anyone publish on their website.

[NWCorona]

9. Wrong. The foundation IS being investigated.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. "Atypical business model"

Hey, nothin wrong with that. It worked for Enron!

[senz]

19. You just made that up, didn't you, Jitter?

[Avalon Sparks]

50. 150 million into their person bank accounts is not Speculation

Why look away from what is obviously bribery?

[AzDar]

6. K & R

[BillZBubb]

8. The Clinton Foundation is rotten. The republicans will be all over this if Hillary is the nominee.

There is simply too much big donation--big government concession, or big concession--big donation for this to pass the smell test.

All the Clinton hangers on are on the payroll too.

We know the Clintons have become world class money grubbers. The question is how low have they sunk.

[840high]

11. Grubbers is correct.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

40. I read at one point the foundation was paying Sydney Blumenthal $10k per month for "consulting"

Yep. Hangers on.

[BernieforPres2016]

12. Here's another article on this, written by the late Christopher Hitchens in Slate in 2009

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2009/01/more_than_a_good_feeling.html

<The Nigerian example is an especially instructive one. Gilbert Chagoury is a major figure in land and construction in that country and has contributed between $1 million and $5 million to the Clinton Foundation as well as arranged a huge speaking fee for President Clinton at a Caribbean event and kicked in a large sum to his 1996 re-election campaign. In return for this, he has been received at the Clinton White House and more recently at Clinton-sponsored social events in New York and Paris. This may have helped to alleviate the sting of Chagoury's difficulties in Nigeria itself. As a close friend of the country's uniformed despot Gen. Sani Abacha, he benefited from some extremely profitable business arrangements during the years of dictatorship but was later compelled, after an investigation of his transactions, to return an estimated $300 million to the Nigerian treasury in exchange for a plea-bargaining arrangement by which his bank accounts could be unfrozen.>

<An upstate New York developer donated $100,000 to former President Bill Clinton's foundation in November 2004, around the same time that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton helped secure millions of dollars in federal assistance for the businessman's mall project.

Mrs. Clinton helped enact legislation allowing the developer, Robert J. Congel, to use tax-exempt bonds to help finance the construction of the Destiny USA entertainment and shopping complex, an expansion of the Carousel Center in Syracuse.

Mrs. Clinton also helped secure a provision in a highway bill that set aside $5 million for Destiny USA roadway construction.>

And then there are the media organizations that are contributors to the Clinton Foundation. I have bolded some, including Mort Zuckerman who owns the NY Daily News which I believe coordinated their hit piece with the Clinton campaign and other members of the press this week; and 3 far right people who are supposedly major Clinton enemies: James Murdoch of Fox, Richard Mellon Scaife and Christopher Ruddy, CEO of NewsMax:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/05/clinton-foundation-donors-include-dozens-of-media-organizations-individuals-207228

$1,000,000-$5,000,000
Carlos Slim
Chairman & CEO of Telmex, largest New York Times shareholder
James Murdoch
Chief Operating Officer of 21st Century Fox
Newsmax Media
Florida-based conservative media network
Thomson Reuters
Owner of the Reuters news service
$500,000-$1,000,000
Google
News Corporation Foundation
Philanthropic arm of former Fox News parent company
$250,000-$500,000
Houghton Mifflin Harcourt
Publisher
Richard Mellon Scaife
Owner of Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
$100,000-$250,000
Abigail Disney
Documentary filmmaker
Bloomberg Philanthropies
Howard Stringer
Former CBS, CBS News and Sony executive
Intermountain West Communications Company
Local television affiliate owner (formerly Sunbelt Communications)
$50,000-$100,000
Bloomberg L.P.
Discovery Communications Inc.
George Stephanopoulos (upcoming NY debate moderator and former Bill Clinton aide)
ABC News chief anchor and chief political correspondent
Mort Zuckerman
Owner of New York Daily News (hit piece on Bernie this week) and U.S. News & World Report
Time Warner Inc.
Owner of CNN parent company Turner Broadcasting
$25,000-$50,000
AOL
HBO
Hollywood Foreign Press Association
Presenters of the Golden Globe Awards
Viacom
$10,000-$25,000
Knight Foundation
Non-profit foundation dedicated to supporting journalism
Public Radio International
Turner Broadcasting
Parent company of CNN
Twitter
$5,000-$10,000
Comcast
Parent copmany of NBCUniversal
NBC Universal
Parent company of NBC News, MSNBC and CNBC
Public Broadcasting Service
$1,000-$5,000
Robert Allbritton
Owner of POLITICO
$250-$1,000
AOL Huffington Post Media Group
Hearst Corporation
Judy Woodruff
PBS Newshour co-anchor and managing editor
The Washington Post Company

[FourScore]

17. Wow! n/t

[laserhaas]

21. Just so wrong ..while SOS

Getting any $ from ...A N Y W H E R E

[Octafish]

33. William K. Black wrote that may be why there was IG at State for those 4years.

The author helped put the S&L crooks behind bars in the 1990s as a regulator and forensic economist for the SEC. Black helped Iceland put its banksters behind bars, but for some reason, the Federal government failed to call on him for help in the great Bankster Bailout of 2008. He knows a bit about Inspector Generals and Control Fraud.



"I did not know the bank was being robbed because I was engaged in my sworn duty as a police officer."

The Clintons Have Not Changed: The Clintonian War on the IGs

By William K. Black
February 23, 2016 Bloomington, MN

Secretary Hillary Clinton is asking Democratic voters to believe that she has experienced a “Road to Damascus” conversion from her roots as a leader of the “New Democrats” – the Wall Street wing of the Democratic Party. When exactly this conversion occurred is never stated, but an interesting fact has emerged that demonstrates it did not occur during her service as the Secretary of State. A Wall Street Journal story provides the key facts, but none of the analysis.

Newly released emails indicate that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her top staff were involved in the selection process for the State Department’s internal watchdog, a position that ultimately went unfilled throughout her four-year tenure.

The WSJ’s angle is that such involvement in the selection of the Inspector General (IG) is a threat to the IG’s vital independence. True, and also true as the story notes that Hillary was far from rare as an agency or department head in seeking to select behind the scenes the supposedly independent IGs.

The function of the IG is to “speak truth to power.” Naturally, “power” hates IGs with a purple passion. Government leaders are most likely to hate having its abuses made public by IG when the government leader is secretly acting in concert with immensely powerful private leaders for their mutual benefit at the expense of the public.

What the WSJ missed is that the Clinton’s, for decades, have sought to destroy the independence and effectiveness of the IGs precisely because of the threat that they pose of blowing the whistle on these abuses. The Obama administration, of course, is famous for its prosecutions of those who blow the whistle on such abuses. The real story is not that Hillary attempted to select a lap dog as IG – the real story is that for her entire tenure as Secretary, four years, she left unfilled the leadership position of the only institution in the State Department dedicated to maintaining integrity and preventing the abuse of public power to aid cronies. That aid, of course, comes with the clear expectation that the cronies will make the head of the State Department wealthy as soon as she or he steps down. There is no possible defense for that, and it does not happen accidentally. The primary blame goes to President Obama, who made no nomination for the position for the entire four years. It wasn’t Republican intransigence that explains this scandal.

CONTINUED...

http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2016/03/clintons-not-changed-clintonian-war-igs.html#more-10101

Bill Black is one of "those" economists who won't play ball with the money crowd. Why? He. Has. Integrity.

[laserhaas]

34. WOW ..Incredible

Thanks for this Octafish...

.

[nashville_brook]

51. wow. brazen.

[vintx]

13. I imagine most of those 'foundations' that super wealthy people set up

are nothing more than an attempt to keep more of their $$$ from going to taxes so they can trade it for favors and further enrich themselves and their friends.

Arudhati Roy has written and spoken extensively on this issue. It's sad how few people seem to be aware of the scam.

[SisterSarah]

14. IF I WERE KING OF THE WORLD

Tell you what I'd do I'd throw away the cars and the bars and the wars Make sweet love to you Joy to the world All the boys and girls Joy to the fishes in the deep blue sea JOY TO YOU AND ME

[BernieforPres2016]

15. Read about the Lundin Group, which has donated $100 million to the Clinton Foundation

This sleazy company is very closely tied with Frank Giustra, the sleazeball pal of Bill Clinton who files around the world with him.

http://abc10up.com/chasing-elephants-lundin-mining/

<If heavy allegations of corporate corruption, greed, and treachery are worth their weight in base metals, the Lundin Mining Corporation (LMC) may be in really deep shafts with Yoopers. The history of the Lundin mining and oil dynasty is allegedly concentrated in bribery, political pay-offs, war profiteering, human rights violations, and trace amounts of environmental damage.>

<The Lundin Group of Companies have acquired assets in Apartheid South Africa, secured stock in war-torn Sudan, and incorporated copper conglomerates with corrupt governments in the Congo. The numerous investigations that trail the group’s bullish pursuit of exploiting natural resources from every corner of the globe leave socioeconomic footprints across five continents.>

Bill Clinton tried to persuade Hillary's State Department to allow him to accept a $650,000 fee to give a speech in the Republic of Congo, which is considered the worst place in the world for violence against women, and have his picture taken with 2 dictators. The State Department shut that one down.

[laserhaas]

24. ABSOLUTELY L O V E the moniker

[bbgrunt]

20. Mega Grifters. Palin pales by comparison.

[BillZBubb]

41. Palin is small potatoes next to the Clintons.

Usually on money scandals, the republicans are involved in the huge scams, the Democrats the small stuff.

The Clintons have reversed the trend and gotten in on the big money action.

[Avalon Sparks]

55. Palin is small time...

but equally despicable.

[whatchamacallit]

22. So?

standard Hillteam response

[Scuba]

37. As learned from Dick Cheney.

[jwirr]

23. And it works best when one of the family is in a high office

in government.

[BillZBubb]

42. Or one is in line to get the highest office.

[Uncle Joe]

25. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, FourScore.

[Fairgo]

26. At some point there are so many dots to connect

It's simply a pointillist portrait in corruption. At one of those points, we entered into RICO territory.

[questionseverything]

46. yep n/t

[nichomachus]

30. That's why you won't find Hillary's name in the Panama Papers

She and Bill are running their own scam. They don't need Panama.

[BillZBubb]

44. Exactly, this is like the private server. The Clintons are keeping everything "in house".

Like with the mob, people on the outside can only infer from actions what is going on. But, they can't prove nuttin'.

[slipslidingaway]

31. knr Harper's Clintons’ charitable enterprise bookmarked nt

[Major Hogwash]

32. ". . . its license was revoked by the state of Massachusetts . . ."

Wow, I didn't know that.

[RobertEarl]

35. Gee, all that money... billions

Ya think maybe the republicans got a piece?

And that's why they are hush hush these days? Hey, were I a trump, i'd sure be talking to hill+billco about what a partnership could mean.

[BillZBubb]

45. Whoever the republican nominee is, the republicans will be on the Clinton Foundation 24/7.

There is just too much questionable action there.

[Avalon Sparks]

49. That is correct

and one of their main points is that no Repub has done it. And I think they might be right about that.

[jfern]

36. Rod Blagojevich got 14 years for much much less shit than this

[questionseverything]

47. basically rod b asked his dem appointee to do a fund raiser to prove they were viable

took the feds 2 trys to convict him even with releasing his private conversations to the world

the night before his arrest we went to bed cheering because he had stood up to bank of america, defending the workers of the factory that was being moved out of state, saying, yes you can move but before you do you have to pay what you owe the workers here

i always figured that was really what he was arrested for

[silvershadow]

48. I, for one, am shocked

that this didn't come out sooner.

[RiverLover]

53. bwhahahaa

....and its about damn time!

[silvershadow]

54. :D nt

[CharlotteVale]

52. I never thought it was anything else.

[KoKo]

56. Read it Before...and, it's worth a Read Again!

[SixString]

58. Ouch.

[Cheese Sandwich]

60. Clinton foundation is a slush fund for horrible people to pay horrible people to do horrible things

[Cowpunk]

61. I found this story unbelievable at first.

The idea that the Republicans on the Benghazi committee have access to damning information that could destroy Hillary Clinton and aren't persuing it seemed ludicrous to me. A lot of Republicans may be stupid, but if they catch a whiff of Clinton scandal anywhere, they will surely keep digging.

But today something dawned on me: If they have info that could take Hillary down right now, why wouldn't they wait until she has secured the Democratic nomination, especially if they are beginning to realize that Bernie is the candidate who will fire up the progressive base of the party. Democrats will be up shit creek without a paddle if they sit on this until she is the nominee.

[FourScore]

62. Exactly. And now there is this story:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511698512

[Bread and Circus]

63. They are hiding in plain sight and a lot of people just don't seem to give a fuck.