Offical Dem Debate Watching Thread for NICE PEOPLE- intros are NOW.

[bettyellen]

Let's watch and comment on what is said without person insults or rancor!
Let's try to say something nice (or something we agree with) about them both- and keep rancor to a minimum.
I know you can!

[bettyellen]

1. I just saw that actor - the one who was in Kinsey.... and Boys don;t Cry?

[awake]

2. I just Steichen from greys anatomy and Hillary looks like she has a lab coat on

[bettyellen]

3. Lab coats are NICE. Here come Bernie!

[awake]

12. She looks better in the close up nice look now white and black

With pearls while Bernie is in same suit

[bettyellen]

13. It's a bit softer than white..... uh oh- HRC 's judgment......SBS says "he said that in response" to

headline and what surrogates said. He says she does have the experience..lotsa applause.. but not the judgement.
Wars, suppress, Wall St, etc. not the kind of judgement we need"

[Bobbie Jo]

4. Hi bettyellen!

Was watching for your Official *NICE PEOPLE* Thread, and here you are right on time!

[bettyellen]

5. Aw shucks- thank you darling! We CAN do this.

[JudyM]

6. Anyone have a link?

[bettyellen]

9. CNN should have a temporary free link on line, and The Young Turks too?

Good to see you Judy!!!

[JudyM]

11. Didn't see it, I'll look again. Hi!

[bettyellen]

14. maybe because you tried too early? I see it at: http://www.cnn.com

[bettyellen]

7. Bernie talks of his success building, and then campaign finance and the 1 %/ rigged economy...

They both get 2 minutes. He is done now.

[bettyellen]

10. Hillary is talking about NY specifically quite a bit more than SBS did.....

that's HRC, the coalition builder.

[firebrand80]

8. Pro Hillary crowd nt

[bettyellen]

15. She is slamming him for the NYDN article about him not knowing the details of how his plans

would be enacted.

SBS: Let;s talk about the worst foreign policy in 40 years? where does money come from? she won' bring change?
In America, we sold be thinking big- not small- guaranteed health care for all.

[Agschmid]

16. Can't really tell, certainly a loud crowd.

[bettyellen]

19. Bernie is getting some cheers too. It;s a loud mix.

[bettyellen]

17. Hill is talking about Wall St and going further by going after "shadow banking" and ....?

Now asking SBS about "breaking themselves up"?
Talking about Goldman Sachs recent settlement.

[bettyellen]

18. Ohh, SBS went snarky. Not such a great look on him.

[bettyellen]

20. Ugh, now SBS is going snarky about the speeches. Hilary said everyone- Trump included....

he keeps ignoring that. She is being tactical.

[Agschmid]

21. They both are, it's politics. As always.

[bettyellen]

23. It seems very un-Bernie like to be snarky. I wish he was bringing on some facts and details...

every debate I feel like she goes into too much detail, and he too little. Wish I could throw them in a blender.

[bettyellen]

22. Neither of them is answering the questions asked. When SBS is asked about being pro- business...

he slams Verizon. When asked to go back on OT, he did it again.

[Xyzse]

29. I saw that, however, he finally did say...

That he doesn't have contempt to business as a whole, just those like Verizon and GE.

That was an important distinction to make.

All in all, at the beginning Clinton was doing very well. She still is. Sanders slightly starting slowly but getting better with time.

[bettyellen]

30. True, but had no answer about more jobs, just segued into higher paying jobs. Not liking

the loudness of the crowd.

[Xyzse]

31. It's a bit hard with the format.

Too quick reactions...

Both are not getting their questions down.

[bettyellen]

33. True. And they are both veering OT and should be more reigned in.

[Xyzse]

34. Yep...

I may have to step out from this and just read the transcript.

[bettyellen]

24. Hillary says she would raise the minimum wage to 15$ if the bill was on her desk.....

She says her plan would be to do it in steps. Wow, their were boos mixed in.

[bettyellen]

25. this crowd is quick to react mid sentence.

[bettyellen]

26. The 12$ minimum wage has more support with Dems in congress. Is more doable.

[bettyellen]

27. OMG- this crowd is nuts. Exchange about guns/ Brady bill. Same old stuff we have heard.

SBS getting booed over talking about gun liability law.

[bettyellen]

28. 1994crime bill- net positive or mistake. HRC- was mixed bag, was not supposed to target non-violent

offenders, but states got a hold of it and stripped good things, expanded on the bad.

[bettyellen]

32. To Hillary: Climate change and...What are SBS's lies?

has tried to work w senate to reduce subsidies to oil business.
everyone who has looked at the records have said SBS charges are false. her support from them has been small %.
Need to continue work on emissions.

[bettyellen]

35. She is giving Obama credit for reducing our carbon footprint through exec actions......

and concerned that people will misunderstand how easy it is to do stuff w a hostile congress.

[Cali_Democrat]

36. I consider myself to be a very nice person....

So I will post in this thread

Both candidates are far better than the Republicans!

[bettyellen]

37. You are, and yes- both make me proud to be a Dem. Rowdy audience tonight!

[bettyellen]

38. HRC talking about the complexity of moving away from coal as well as fracking both internationally.

as well as here.

SBS- small steps- not enough. HRC supported fraking tech abroad.
Need to talk to oil producers that they have to do better- asking HRC to support a carbon tax.

[bettyellen]

39. and adding to it, that the SC court has been fighting getting away from dirty energy.

Swipes Sanders for not getting legislation passed to help the situation.

[bettyellen]

40. SBS talking about phasing out energy slowly- in steps. Oops. Now talking about adding solar

as a sort of a jobs program to bring up % of energy from current level of 6% we have now.
Something about Nazis and WW2?

[Logical]

41. LOL, nice people, coming from you? Seriously?

[bettyellen]

42. I do not engage in personal insults- which is more than you just did, no?

The other threads are filled with nastiness. Go for it elsewhere- thanks.

[bettyellen]

43. SBS blames Isis on regime change, ergo Hilary. HRC responds there was a vote and SBS went for it.

and we got support from the UN security council- upon request from out european partners.

[bettyellen]

44. SBS- against wasting money on NATO/ Europe? HAs just pivoted to the great things France

and UK do with their taxes- they should pay more.

[bettyellen]

45. Hillary is arguing against the GOP, and SBS is trying to get HRC to take his proposals as is..

and she is trying to explain that they are working on legislation the best way possible.
Ouch she just threw the "establishment" line at him.

[bettyellen]

46. Hillary is killing it with complaints- not one question about reproductive rights in any debate...

she swooped in and added to a Q about the USSC justice.
Well done.

[bettyellen]

47. Does SBS pledge to take it to the convention- SBS says he thinks he will win. Now slams south again

[lostnfound]

48. These people are TOUGH!

Gawd. I just woke up ten minutes ago, flipped on TV and watched two old people going at it with the vigor and sharpness of thirty year olds. After all the campaigning this week they can still get on TV and debate this fiercely??
Man these folks are TOUGH.

[bettyellen]

49. True Congrats on being the fifth or sixth person willing to be NICE.

Most here don't even want to take a shot at it. :HI:

[lostnfound]

54. Thanks for starting a thread so I didn't have to..

[bettyellen]

57. You're very welcome! No one was mean, except to me. So I am happy!

[bettyellen]

50. SBS, I'm Bklyn, son of immigrants, college grad. Disagrees on HRC accepting money and not being

beholden. Believes we can (familiar laundry list) . We can do that when millions stand up and fight back to create a govt for all of us. :cheers:

[bettyellen]

51. HRC: Grateful for the honor of being Sen from NY. Was reelected with large margin....

Tried to have NY back, and vice versa. 9/11, rebuilt NY. Aided first responders.
Created jobs despite George Bush, stood up against vested interests. Asking support to continue the work for NY and take values to white house. Knock down economic barriers. - but also racial gender, disability barriers to knock down.
Will not just make promises- will deliver results! TY, NY.

[Armstead]

52. Sorry I don't fill the entrance requirement

But in real life I'm very nice

[bettyellen]

53. I think you do.... most of the time. I just wanted people to refrain from OT insults is all.

which is what 90% of GDP is these days.

[Mother Of Four]

55. Betty -

Just wanted to let you know I wasn't ignoring your thread. I think it's great that you had it for nice people, I just didn't kick and respond because I knew that no matter how hard I tried I would snark.

And I want to encourage this kind of thing ... not tear it down

[bettyellen]

56. Aww- that is sweet of you to say. Previous "nice" debate threads had a lot more interest.

Although they also had more snarky stuff and so I asked people to leave.
I felt like I should try one last time. Might be a little too late in the season to do this again!
Thanks for your lovely response!