2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPope Suggests Critics of Sanders Meeting 'See a Psychiatrist'
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.714722?utm_source=dlvr.it"If anyone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics, I recommend that he look for a psychiatrist," he said, laughing.
Man, that damn BernieBro Pope set the record straight for all you envious Hillarians!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)endorsement or anything of the kind.
The meeting was really just that. A meeting.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)...was not an endorsement.
Critics of his meeting need to get a grip, get a life, and get over it.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)global1
(25,263 posts)are the Hillary bunch. Instead of being proud that one of their countrymen was invited to address the world stage regarding income inequality and poverty - they took it down to the gutter and politicized it.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)And they're still twisting their knickers in a bunch trying to paint this meeting as bad.
Marr
(20,317 posts)Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Disgusting as the issue is they make at least there is a bright side.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)The obsessive spin, freaking out and hand wringing from Clinton and her mouthpieces--has been a fucking embarrassment on the world's stage.
Their desperate lies and behavior have become part of the Bernie's Pope story. They were a continuous background chorus of crazy. Magnified by the media, their middle-school bullying is an embarrassment. They repeatedly made much ado over nothing and whipped up controversy that was nothing but debunked Clinton-supporter talking points.
Bernie said after his meeting with the Pope that this was not a political meeting or an endorsement. The Pope said the same thing and went further to say that if you do politicize this, you need a shrink!
Jesus! I don't know how much clearer it gets. The Pope basically called out the crazy chorus and told them to get professional help.
I, for one, am embarrassed at how our country has come off! Clinton supporters--drunk on their own obsession to ruin this trip for Bernie--have behaved like vacuous sorority girls on the world's stage--for everyone to see.
They are quintissential toxic people and they'll never stop.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)The very people he means think it means something opposite!
artislife
(9,497 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)which is now no longer in question at all.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)would agree. A few of them need help
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)desmiller
(747 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)and Pope Francis are both able to deal with liars, an ability to cut through bullshit is a needed skill these days.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Or, part of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)needs some professional help
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Some people opposed to Sanders are projecting the behavior they expect from candidates onto this.
"My candidate is cynical and manipulative, so Sanders must be too."
DrDan
(20,411 posts)contrary to what the Pope said
TM99
(8,352 posts)Dan, then you do know the very real differences between someone has formally endorsed a candidate and say someone simply prefers a candidate.
You are just shit stirring to save face because y'all lied all last week and now must eat crow.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)and yes - I hold a Ph.D.
TM99
(8,352 posts)or are you just nitpicking a Sander's supporters choice of words because ya'll don't want to eat crow around this Vatican conference and visit?
Lord knows, I truly don't expect an honest answer!
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)they have a name for the winners in the world
it ain't corn shucker
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)greiner3
(5,214 posts)How long to find him/her?
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)fried eggs
(910 posts)Not one of your strong suits, unfortunately. The pope was gently rebutting Sander's version of events. Sanders tried to make it political by announcing that he had "met" with the pope. The pope was then forced to take time out of his busy schedule to set the record straight and make it clear that he was cordial with Sanders despite being ambushed. How embarrassing for Sanders!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)arikara
(5,562 posts)No... Bernie did not "step in front" of the pope, OR "ambush" him.
Report card:
D- in Reading comprehension
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... and then placed someone in the middle of this who didn't ask for it.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)Bugs Bunny
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)quantumjunkie
(244 posts)Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)Seek help..
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)The Pope more likely suggested, "What else could I do? He was right there. I had no choice but to greet him." Now, the Pope is probably pissed at Sanders for dragging the Pope into our election. Great going Sanders. Anything to win.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)His Holiness knows how to put a couple of sentences together since he speaks Spanish, fluent Italian, German, French and Portuguese, but he doesn't speak English.
You have suggested that he said
Here is what the Pope said,
"When I came down, I greeted him, I shook his hand and nothing more. This is called good manners and it is not getting involved in politics,"
"If anyone thinks that greeting someone is getting involved in politics, I recommend that he look for a psychiatrist"
but kudos to you you got two words, the words
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)Onlooker
(5,636 posts)The Pope basically said, "What else could I do? He was right there. I had no choice but to greet him."
I suppose the Pope could have taken a quick right turn and avoided him, but that would be a bit tacky. I gather Sanders was an eager beaver waiting there with a few others. Maybe Sanders is thinking of becoming a Catholic, because he said the trip wasn't political, and what an awfully odd time for a Jew to go to the Vatican.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)I was referring to his incorrect portrayal of what the Pope REALLY said. He said nothing of the kind.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)to be exact and the subject line matches the article
George II
(67,782 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)33. Hey skippy, your subject line is false, He never said that. Reread your own highlighted text.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)I like this guy.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)This was a warning directed at them to not read anything in to the "meeting".
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)He's another one we are lucky to have at this time.
RandySF
(59,158 posts)He never say Bernie wasn't playing politics.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)they're the ones who think this was such a great honor for Bernie
TM99
(8,352 posts)Y'all are the ones going nuts about pandering, endorsements, and the like. It is not Sanders, it is not his supporters, and it is definitely not the Pope.
He is definitely talking about y'all. Open your eyes and get a life.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Califonz
(465 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)From what I can see, the Pope has no interest in Kim Davis 2.0 and got outta dodge with a nice regret note to Sorondo and a happenstance meeting in the hallway. And I'm glad for this because we should not be supporting candidates who seek their endorsements from foreign nations or, for that fact, religious institutions and the Vatican represents both. This had the opportunity to set a dangerous precedent. I say "had" because Bernie clearly missed the mark on this and it will make his impending loss in New York that much more a thing to savor.