I proudly stand with Jim McDermott

[DemocratSinceBirth]

A Seattle man accused of threatening to cut out U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott’s tongue now faces felony charges.

King County prosecutors claim Jasper K. Bell made the threat because he was upset that McDermott, D-Seattle, was supporting Hilary Clinton for president. Currently jailed, Bell, 27, has been charged with intimidating a public servant and telephone harassment.

Bell had been fixated on McDermott for some time before the April 22 incident that saw him charged, Senior Deputy Prosecutor Susan Storey said in court paper. Bell is alleged to have made threatening calls to McDermott before arriving at his Seattle office that day.

“In one phone call he demanded the congressman’s home address and threatened to cut his tongue out,” Storey said in charging papers. “In another call he stated that the congressman would not be safe, even after he retires.”

McDermott, a long-serving liberal, announced in January that he would be retiring after 14 terms in Congress. A competitive primary contest is underway for the seat representing Washington’s deep-blue 7th District.

Witnesses at McDermott’s downtown Seattle office told police Bell was yelling and spitting, and banging his fists against the office windows. He was arrested hours after that 1 p.m. incident. McDermott canceled a public appearance due to the threats, Storey said, and had his staff take extra security precautions.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Threatened-Rep-Jim-McDermott-armed-himself-7381914.php
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[Renew Deal]

1. Me too. What happened to him was wrong.

[NurseJackie]

2. This type of behavior does not surprise me at all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Every movement has its fantasists and fanatics.

[brooklynite]

4. ...and we don't excuse their influencers....

If someone bombs a Planned Parenthood clinic, we don't excuse it by saying the person is mentally ill; we hold the religious diatribes he's been listing to at least partly responsible. Ten months of Bernie supporters saying that Clinton is corrupt, the system is rigged, the superdelegates are "in the tank",etc. probably didn't help.

[sufrommich]

6. This. Both the Sanders campaign and his supporters

are complicit in this crap.

[Armstead]

26. This...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1864148

[JaneyVee]

10. Bernie got some wounds to heal...

The artful smears suggesting the system is against him, the artful smears suggesting Hillary corruption, the artful smears suggesting superdelegates are evil, etc etc. He actually has supporters thinking Hillary is only winning due to voter fraud and superdels. Instead, shes winning pop vote and delegates...by a lot.

Like I said, Bernie has a lot of wounds to heal.

[Armstead]

25. So if a Hillary supporter goes after Bernie because...

Sanders is a progun fanatic racist socialist fascist who is allied with the Minutemen and is anti-immigrant and supports repression and killing by Latin American dictatorship and who wants to take away healthcare....I hope you will hold that person accountable too.

[LisaM]

55. A Hillary supporter who goes to Bernie's office threatening to rip out his tongue?

Pretty sure there are no examples of that. And, this is not the first person to be arrested at McDermott's office. People have been physically harassing him and his staff.

[NurseJackie]

7. Some more than others.

[noretreatnosurrender]

5. Sounds Like He has a mental problem

I hope he gets help.

[bvf]

8. A short time ago I was being pestered by a user

on DU who kept pleading with me to PM him (or her--I'm not sure) in order to be able to say something to me presumably not suitable in a public post here.

After I refused, obviously not wanting to encourage such cowardly behavior, the same user began asking me to post objectionable pictures. I refused, but was soon surprised that a simple picture of a child's hand puppet resulted in a hide of my post.

You can't be too careful nowadays. There are lots of creepy types out there who are clearly capable of the behavior described above. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of them are guilty of the same sort of sick crap described in the OP.

Avoid them.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. Are you still stalking me?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1820460

Oh, you've got a fan! Hasn't that one had hidden messages before from chasing you around??

It's a shame that some people think that getting the last word is so much more important than looking well.

-Number 23


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=44696

You were subsequently banned from the African American forum for stalking me. If anybody doubts my veracity they can contact the African American forum hosts.

[bvf]

11. Taking you off ignore was a big mistake.

So was not informing the management when you began soliciting me for repulsive pictures and PMs.

It's obviously time to address these oversights.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. I didn't ask you for repulsive pictures. You threatened to intimidate me by posting them.

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I told you I don't intimidate easily and go ahead and post the aberrant images you harbor.

Oh, look at this thread. You stalked me.

Oh, you've got a fan! Hasn't that one had hidden messages before from chasing you around??

It's a shame that some people think that getting the last word is so much more important than looking well.

-Number 23


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=44696

You were subsequently banned from the African American forum for stalking me. If anybody doubts my veracity they can contact the African American forum hosts.

[LexVegas]

14. It's creepy. Ignore it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I don't come here to get pushed around. I am a human being. I am not a punching bag.

[LexVegas]

17. We got your back. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. The poster has stalked and attacked me in several threads.

Here is one example:

After finding his prey he attacks me here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511820293#post12


and it reaches it apotheosis here:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862

[LexVegas]

22. I know. I've seen it. It is apparently ok to the stacked juries. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I have been posting here for thirteen years, Lex.

This is the first time a poster followed me to another thread to harass me because he couldn't respond to me because his post was hidden:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862

[LexVegas]

24. I tried alerting, but it said it was already alerted. So it must be acceptable...

probably because of who you support in the primary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. I am far from a perfect poster but I would never follow a poster to another thread

I am far from a perfect poster but I would never follow a poster to another thread to harass him or her because my post was hidden in another thread.

I did tell him if he wants to insult me he should do so in private. This is a political message board , not an insult club.

[leftofcool]

28. These are the kind of Bernie supporters Jim is talking about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. The poster follows me all around DU

I did request that he express his animus for me in a private message. Other posters don't need to see this.

[grossproffit]

38. +1 Very scary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. I hope the administrator does something about this.

There is no justification for following a poster from a thread you were locked out of.

[mcar]

54. That is ugly stuff

I'm sorry you've experienced that, DSB.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. If

Taking you off ignore was a big mistake.

If you had just stayed within the lines of civil discourse you would never had multiple posts hidden for attacking me and nor would you have been banned from the African American forum for stalking me.

Alas, there is still time to peer into your conscience, heed your better angels, and treat your fellow members of this board as you would like to be treated.

[nolawarlock]

50. Your behavior concerns me ...

I saw that puppet you posted and the way you're stalking AA posters. Bernie has made rampant racism acceptable in the Democratic party again. When I see his followers argue constantly for a return to Democratic roots, all I can think about now when I hear that is the party's long past involvement in slavery and Jim Crow. That is not the Democratic party I want to return to.

Between the racism and sexism and people threatening to cut the tongues out of super delegates, among all the other hate against the supers I'm seeing out there, I am really concerned about this "revolution."

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. I am not African American.

I only post that for clarity.

[nolawarlock]

52. Ah. Well then it's pretty sad that he has to throw AAs under the bus in his attacks on you. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. I could not agree with you more. That guy really hates me, likely because I stood up to him.

That puppet was wack, smh.


And he had the chutzpah to say it was merely a "child's hand puppet"


Maybe he meant David Duke's child.

[nolawarlock]

58. Well either he hates you enough to throw racism into the mix ...

... or he's just a racist and you're his excuse.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. He should apologize to the board, not to me, and redeem himself.

[nolawarlock]

60. I think you have a better chance of seeing Bernie elected. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. If you get a chance please read this sub-thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1820460

[nolawarlock]

62. Read most of it the other day.

To call the bizarre would be an understatement. LOL

[1StrongBlackMan]

31. My Brother, DSB ...

Would you just ask him/her out on a date and be done with it?

It is clear that there is more going on with them than an idle interest.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I am spoken for so I can not oblige him.

As a black man what do you think of this image that the gentleman who posted it innocently labeled as a "child's hand puppet" :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862



Would I be correct if I said it looks like something you could have bought at a Confederate relic souvenir store in the 1950s south?

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. I detest it ... and loathe anyone that would post anything like it.

Would I be correct if I said it looks like something you could have bought at a Confederate relic souvenir store in the 1950s south?

Yes ... you would be correct. But that was kind of that posters reason for posting that particular garbage depiction.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. I wonder what you have to enter in a search engine to find such an image.

The irony is the poster wrote that I requested such aberrant images:

"...the same user began asking me to post objectionable pictures..."

-bvf

The truth is he threatened to expose me to his aberrant images and I told him I will not be cowed. It starts here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1820460


and reaches it's nadir or apex, depending on your definition here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862

[1StrongBlackMan]

41. Sad ... Just, sad; but, a fitting ending.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. What has ended, my brother?

He will surely continue his campaign of hate toward me. He even dedicated his signature line to me. The irony is our friend has used his signature line to call me a coward and attack me knowing I can't respond. I wonder what these people did before the advent of the internet.


This unpleasantness has confirmed what I always knew , just because you have a (D) after your name doesn't mean you like black people or like people who like them.

[1StrongBlackMan]

43. LOL ...

I wonder what these people did before the advent of the internet.

My guess is ... They sat in the back of the lunchroom, hiding behind their metal Scooby-Doo lunchbox, hoping to go unnoticed.

This unpleasantness has confirmed what I always knew , just because you have a (D) after your name doesn't mean you like black people or like people who like them.

What has suggested that your stalker is, in anyway, connected to (D)?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. I just hope he forgets me.

He goes on and on about how ignorant the champ and I are but I assure you neither one of us have ever showed our a$$ in the way our friend did.

[1StrongBlackMan]

46. True. Here ...

One of those is share to help!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. I like attention as much as the next person but not all attention is wanted.

I clearly got under our friend's skin. Instead of me going into the apoplectic rage he wished me to have he did.

Every image he posted in this sub-thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1820460


was more disturbing than the next.


I just don't know why he had to denigrate Muhammad Ali and black folks in general to hurt me. Him and them don't deserve that level of enmity.

It is just so sad.

[sufrommich]

16. "surprised that a simple picture of a child's hand puppet resulted in a hide"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Did you see the image? It was black face.

[sufrommich]

19. I did. The innocent act isn't very convincing,is it? nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. No. The poster's "who me" act permeated the entire sub-thread.

The poster follows me around this board trying to provoke me. The proof is in this thread.

I did invite him to tell me what he thinks of me in a private message so I could respond in private. The whole board doesn't have to witness his vendetta against me. This is a political message board, not an internet fight club.

[Jitter65]

12. Brains on drugs, no doubt. nt

[HassleCat]

29. I'm not sure it's bullying.

I think of bullying as an instance where someone uses some kind of power or authority or advantage to harrass or intimidate another person. That does not seem to be happening here. I know several people who have been stalked and threatened by mentally ill individuals, and it's not much fun. It's very, very difficult to get the police to take action.

[seabeyond]

35. Using threat of physical violence to intimidate is not at the very least bullying? Personally, I

think it is greater than merely bullying. It has been interesting the number of Sanders supporters, ... Meh. It just is not hard to support a candidate and yet say this is wrong. No more or less, simply wrong.

[ismnotwasm]

32. He is MY representative

The last of the liberal lions. I am completely appalled.

[Gothmog]

34. The bernie bros will alienate far more super delegates than they convert

[La Lioness Priyanka]

45. cray cray

[nolawarlock]

49. Talk about silencing the opposition ...

This story should surprise no one. It's the natural progression from the desperation we've seen in the hateful attacks on super delegates across social media:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511859255

I will be very saddened, but not very surprised, if one of the supers comes to real harm before this is all over.

[mcar]

53. I do too!

[LisaM]

56. Jim McDermott is one of the most reliable liberal voices in Congress (and my rep)

If I were a Bernie supporter, I'd be seriously asking myself why McDermott has chosen to support Hillary over Bernie. The relative lack of support from people who've actually worked with Sanders speaks volumes to me.

[aikoaiko]

63. I do, too. No place for threats and I hope every Bernie supporter contacts him.

and tell him why they think he is wrong to endorse HRC in an appropriate manner.

[bvf]

65. Aw, you missed it. Too bad.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. *

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511863307#post50

[bvf]

67. "Please post them, please" -- DemocratSinceBirth

OK. Here you are:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. **

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511863307#post33


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511863307#post36

[bvf]

69. Missed the edit, did you?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. ***

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1187&pid=44696

[bvf]

71. Question submitted by DemocratSinceBirth

What fun.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. ****

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1863956

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1863964

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511863307#post19

[bvf]

73. And again.

Last edited Sat Apr 30, 2016, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

The management apparently has you on ignore.

Good thinking, there!



Poor little fella.

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[DemocratSinceBirth]

74. ****SMH****

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1862862

[insta8er]

75. So proud of you!!! now where were you when the Bernie FB groups got shut up?

[silvershadow]

76. Mental health issues are so pervasive in our country. I hope that man is able to get the help

he needs. The fact he claimed to be a Sanders supporter is wholly immaterial to the incident. It is a shame McDermott appears to be voting against what the people want- and it is an indictment against the system we have. Which, ironically, is what Bernie is pointing out with his views and campaign positions. We should move to direct elections instead of this faux democracy. Just my humble opinion.