You're NOT Helping: Bill Clinton Calls FBI Criminal Investigation Of Hillary " A Game"...

[AzDar]

[pmorlan1]

1. Strange

Do you know when he made these comments?

[AzDar]

10. i think today...

[pmorlan1]

15. Really?

That's very interesting. Did he bring it up or did someone ask him?

[seabeyond]

2. I agree. Bill is right on.

[Press Virginia]

4. The FBI is playing a game?

[uponit7771]

29. nope, the conservative controlled media is

[Press Virginia]

31. Are they the ones doing a criminal investigation?

[uponit7771]

32. They're part of the genning up of interest to do so

[Press Virginia]

35. They are? Here I thought it was a request by the SD IG

[reformist2]

41. I think you mean "security review", lol.

[Press Virginia]

42. Oh yeah! A security review involving the AG and FBI director

All routine

[reformist2]

43. They are very good at spin. As time goes by, I think it's the only thing they're good at...

[Press Virginia]

49. I wonder what the story will be if/when HRC and/or members of her staff

decline interviews with the FBI?
Scheduling conflict? Lawyer's advice?

[reformist2]

55. Smear campaign. Make the story about the partisanship, corruption at the FBI.

Never mind that a lot of these people are Obama appointees. If it sounds good on the surface, it's good spin. Because most people don't even think about scratching the surface.

[Press Virginia]

57. They did that with the IC and SD IGs when the first classified items were found

during an actual review. Both were attacked even though both were appointed by Obama.

[riderinthestorm]

16. President Obama's appointed Democratic IG's recommended the FBI investigate

Bill is 100% wrong here.

Please wake up.

I'm on record that I neither want nor expect an indictment. But if Comey recommends an indictment, the Democratic party, of which I'm a member, will be fucked this election. It won't take Loretta Lynch either sitting on it or acting on it to make.the Republicans go ape-shit.

President Obama who I particularly like, will have his scandal free administrative record smeared by a Clinton scandal.

[seabeyond]

18. I disagree with you. It was Republican motivated and has gone on way too long.

[riderinthestorm]

20. Obama's Democratic appointed IG'S recommended the FBI investigation

You don't have to believe me but those are the facts sea. The FBI is not partisan and this isn't a right wing nut job investigation.



I'm not happy about it either. I hate the thought that anything mars Obama's legacy.

But it remains as truth that Hillary willfully obstructed the FOIA requests and opened up this can of worms on herself.

[seabeyond]

21. That is fine. I stil agree with Bill. I still think it is a rw smear job. IG did it for

whatever reason. And I think it will be proved out.

[riderinthestorm]

23. How exactly are Obama's Democratic IG'S right wing? Or the FBI?

Really, I'd love to know.

Obama's appointed IG'S are Democrats. How are they a part of a rw smear job?

Exactly how is the FBI partisan?

[seabeyond]

25. I did not say IG or FBI were RW. I said that this is a rw smear campaign and these departments

are doing what they feel they need to do for the reasons they feel they need to do it.

[riderinthestorm]

26. How is this a rw smear campaign?

These are Dem IG'S and the non-partisan FBI.

Exactly how does the right wing play into this?

[seabeyond]

28. RW started the mess, pumped the messed, played the mess, hyped the mess. But, either you

are playing obtuse or I was not clear.

I am not saying IG or the FBI are part of a rw smear. Was that more clear? They have their reason for taking this in the direction they did. I still do not feel it is amounting to anything and unless I have the opportunity for a sit down with the IG or The FBI, I cannot tell you why they chose to do what they have. They will tell us in time.

[riderinthestorm]

33. The facts of this are the facts. No RW spin

Reliably Dem sources are similarly concerned.

The RW didn't start this "mess". Obama's IG'S did.

Nobody "pumped" this mess. Hillary did when she obstructed the FOIA requests. That sent a message that there was "something" there.

Hillary "played" the mess when she illegally deleted emails on her private server in defiance of a FOIA request.

And now any "hype" is because Hillary has been found to have stored classified info on a rogue server, including correspondence with Obama banned advisor Sidney Blumenthal, top secret docs that should never have been outside the gov.com world etc

This is all on her head.

[Ash_F]

66. It appears the Inspector General gave the FBI the referral before the RW press even got wind of it.

[morningfog]

24. That's is not in line with reality.

It may have started as a rw smear job or witch hunt, but Democratic appointed officials found enough evidence to launch and continue and lengthy criminal investigation. And two independent federal judges have found evidence of wrong doing at State.

This has long since ceased being a rw smear job.

[obamanut2012]

76. agreed

[NWCorona]

3. He is playing it like a game.

If the Clinton's really believed the emails in question did actually belong to the State Dept. Why did they have to ask for them back? And lest Hillary's game is better than Bill's.

And his analogy is terrible.

[Press Virginia]

6. The real question is why did she have the private server in the first place?

she's yet to offer an explanation for why she couldn't use a government e-mail account

[thesquanderer]

12. I believe that the reason she had the private server in the first place...

...is that it was already in place and in use by the Clinton Foundation.

[Press Virginia]

14. And she needed it for her job as SoS why?

She wasn't using it prior to becoming Sec of State

[thesquanderer]

17. Ah, well that's a different question! (n/t)

[2banon]

44. How would we know? If that server was in any way connected to the Foundation...

prior to her appointment as SoS......

I mean how would you or I even know whether it was or wasn't?

unless i missed official information establishing that it wasn't connected to the Foundation, which is possible.

[Press Virginia]

47. She's on record saying she didn't use it before becoming SoS

[2banon]

54. Oh ok, Good to know. At least now we have a record of her stating that she didn't use it before SoS

appointment.

That statement does intimate that servers for the Foundation existed and was in operation prior to her appointment.

But we'll take her for her word as established on the record.

Thanks for the clarification.

[2banon]

61. Bingo.

nailed it., betcha that's what they're looking at.

[PeoViejo]

80. 'Family' Business.

and anything else they wanted to keep 'off the record.'

[Autumn]

5. Well Big Dog, I hope it's a game she looses.

[jwirr]

7. I get the feeling that this couple never see anything they

do as wrong. How could anyone actually think that the FBI would be pulled into something that is nothing more than a game?

I think the game is in Bill and Hillary's heads. It is them vs the world with the goal being able to how much they can get by with and come out on the top.

[NorthCarolina]

8. They personally are above the law.

The "law" is for the little folk who generate hefty profits for and from the private prison industry...three strikes and they're OUT you know. Don't want too many SuperPredators loose on the streets.

[jwirr]

11. Yes, isn't it ironic.

[NorthCarolina]

71. Ironic,

pathetic, indefensible, all of these and more.

[2banon]

45. yep, there's a word for people who think they're above the laws of the land

and love flaunting it.

[IdaBriggs]

9. Oh. My. God. He is LYING SO BADLY!!!

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a) She never turned the emails in WHEN she left the State Department/they figured it out TWO YEARS LATER.

b) She said "they belong to the State Department" - so WTF were they doing in her basement TWO YEARS AFTER SHE LEFT STATE and had signed documents saying she turned everything in?

c) When they asked for ALL of her stuff, she deleted 30,000 and turned in another 30,000. She lied about the fact the deleted ones were "all personal".

d) She told State and the public the emails contained NOTHING classified, so State (per her request) put them out there AND THEN FREAKED because there was CLASSIFIED stuff out there.

e) He says it's a game - is he out of his mind? Does he think KERRY tried to screw her when he ASKED POLITELY and gave her months to come clean? Does he think FOIA is a joke?

He's a great speaker, but he relies on people being ignorant.

I am so disappointed in him, for so many reasons.

Wow. "Not helping" is an understatement!

[AzDar]

19. Yeah... the lies are easily refuted- and gotta wonder WHY he'd seemingly taunt the FBI?

[AgerolanAmerican]

36. sounds like he thinks she is getting away with it

"you'll never catch me, coppers!"

[2banon]

46. "He's a great speaker, but he relies on people being ignorant"

ah.. yep..

And so far, it's worked out pretty good for them..

just wonder how much longer it's gonna take for our dear brothers and sisters here to wake up before it's too late.

Wow.. I remember when we all asked this question over and over again during the dumya years. when will they ever pull that veil from their eyes and wake up.

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. Bill has issues

that will need addressing in the not too distant future.

Kind of sad, really.

[2banon]

48. he's got serious issues alright, and it seems like he hasn't learned a damn thing from the 90's

and return of those nightmares 1000 fold.

[silvershadow]

58. Yeah. Issues. Hey look what I posted on Mar 30 that I had found

everywhere on the internet:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016149789

[Fairgo]

22. That is the same man

who parses the word 'is'...and thinks having sexual acts with a subordinate in the oval office is a good idea.

Keeping talking Bill, it's all going into the library for future generations.

[RiverLover]

27. He's losing his edge.

Or, he thinks its still like the 90s & we believe everything spun our way. Its a RW conspiracy!

[senseandsensibility]

60. Losing? I saw him in person in 2004

at a fundraiser, and I remember feeling sorry for him. I wrote it off as a consequence of his heart surgery.

[Kall]

30. What a terrible analogy.

He had a similar meandering, admit-no-wrongdoing explanation as to why she said she was under Bosnian sniper fire when the video showed otherwise. I don't know what comes of it, but Obama's IG and the FBI do not just investigate things for kicks. And the decision to have the private server in her home was just bad judgment to begin with, to even open this can of worms in the first place.

[AgerolanAmerican]

38. it's the Bart Simpson defense

"I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, and there's no way you can prove anything!"

[Lizzie Poppet]

86. Gosh, won't he be great as First Embarrassment...er...Gentleman?

Ah, well...the nation survived Reagan's in-office decay, we'll doubtless survive Bill's all-too-public descent into senility.

The multiple wars his wife starts? Well...maybe.

[janlea]

34. What?

Hillary won't even respond about the emails, Bernie said to hell with them and he's talking about them? I wonder if she even knows about this yet? Has Trump started already? Or something in the wind we don't know about?

[IdaBriggs]

50. FBI interviews are supposed to be scheduled "soon" (reported a month ago).

She hired a criminal defense attorney. Bravado, maybe?

[Lars39]

68. I wonder when...

they are going to interview Bill? Since there's a good chance he was reading official State Dept emails when he shouldn't have been. The server in her basement already being used for Foundation business also makes that a giant possibility.

[Segami]

37. The Amazing Clinton Theater Road Show....

The Art of 'Bubba-Splaining'.......

[silvershadow]

69. Jesus. So many that I forgot about this one, and that has to the creme d'la creme of

legal bullshit parsing. If Bonnie and Clyde get back in prepare for 8 more years of gridlock. From day one.

[Thinkingabout]

39. She is not worried about indictment. She also knew where she

Stood when she testified in Congress, they hoped to get her frazzled, they failed.

[peace13]

83. She said other SOS's had personal servers. This was not true. Go figure.

She was happy to try and throw others under the bus!

[Thinkingabout]

85. They did not use a .gov server, so far there has not been any indication her server has been

Hacked, not true of the .gov servers.

[silvershadow]

51. K&R. If Big Dawg has the balls to do that, I just have to

wonder again why she didn't do the decent and honorable thing for the party way back when. And the answer to that question, which I have asked repeatedly during this campaign MUST be...wait for it...there's nothing there. At least I hope there's nothing there, because his talking about it gives it exposure. Here and all over the net, where this generation lives. I don't mind kicking this one.

Either that, or he's spinning like a Maytag. Unfortunately for him, he has a history so it's up to him to make us believe him.

[Hiraeth]

52. Life is a cabaret-o chum

[dchill]

56. It's all just slip-sliding away.

You don't change reality with a bunch of corn-pone cracker jack analogies and easily dismissed false platitudes.

[ViseGrip]

59. Bill always stepping in it...

[grasswire]

62. or ON it. nt

[ViseGrip]

63. In 08 I thought he did shenanigans on purpose, didn't want her to win. I think that again.

[Lil Missy]

64. He's right. The Indictment Fairy is not going to materialize. n/t

[peace13]

82. The indictment is not really the question.

The question is, do people want a president who has such little regard for the law? Not only the server issue but going behind President Obama 's back and hiring someone she was told not to work with. Can she expect her Cabinet members to be honest and truthful when she was not?

[jcgoldie]

65. He's right

[Buns_of_Fire]

67. Needs more bullhorn. nt

[mmonk]

70. It quit being a game when emails were withheld

to cover up she was using a private server. I think he's worried because the Clinton Foundation is also being looked into.

[Babel_17]

72. I remember that video

That kind of charm is much less effective in the age of instant google look ups and social media. But he does get his point across to his target audience which includes those inclined to buy into what he's pitching.

Might have helped get Secretary Clinton her big lead. And it might all be moot when the FBI signs off to the DOJ, and the DOJ has to decide if it thinks it has cause to go forward with that.

[pdsimdars]

73. Keep going Billy boy. . . . . . or as Obama said to Romney . . . "proceed!"

[Vinca]

75. Well, sir. The game isn't over, is it?

And it could put Trump in the White House. Add that to your spiel.

[obamanut2012]

77. I just checked my browser

Yup, Democratic Underground.

[moriah]

84. Hard to believe lately, huh?

[Lil Missy]

78. he's right. They have been doing this for 20 years and all times have failed.

[artyteacher]

79. yup eom

[pnwmom]

81. Agreed. It is a game the Rethugs play and we're the losers. nt