2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDems Hope State Conventions Can Unite Sanders, Clinton Fans
PORTLAND, Maine (AP) -- Democrats are hoping to use state conventions to unite supporters of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders ahead of the presidential election.
The scenario is playing out Friday in Maine, where Democrats are divided between supporters of the Vermont senator and of the former secretary of state.
Sanders won Maine's caucus March 6. He took 16 pledged delegates to Clinton's nine. But Clinton also has the support of at least three of five superdelegates.
Many conventions remain in other states. They will happen next week in Illinois, which was won by Clinton, and Alaska, which was won by Sanders.
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bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)really has been only a nebulous concept surrounded by academic arguments for and against, up to this point. Simply the presence of the superdelegates (even the name is bad optics) will not create unity. Rather the 'undemocraticness' of it now will be an unavoidable reality, as each state convention is held (remember Colorado), and its blatant, in-your-face, use is really going to anger the Bernie delegates.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Hillary and Bernie fans.
antigop
(12,778 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Will not happen!
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)as far away from the convention madness as I can be.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)that has happened to that point, forget their principles and roll over. Lesser of two evils, oh well. Because, the boogieman...
If there are no consequences for the behavior, there is no reason to change the behavior. If the RW Corporate wing of the Democratic party gets away with this, it will only get worse. The party will continue it's 30+ year slide to the right. We will have two republican parties (the new republicans and the insane republicans) and no party on the Left. And The left will be where Goldwater was.
I'm regularly having the same arguments with Clinton supporters here, that I have in my private life with my republican friends and acquaintances. They are using the same RW arguments that the republican use, eg:
NAFTA
GMO
Fracking
TPP
Single Payer
$15/hr
The same damned arguments!
This appears to be a case of a ten that's too large and the disenfranchised republicans have come over. After this election there will be no part on the Left unless Bernie Wins. We will have the new insane RW party still calling itsele republican, and the old republican party now calling itself Democrat.
IF a disaster occurs and Clinton is the Nom, Trump...the 'republican' will be running to her Left on many important issues. Where the hell does that leave Liberals and Progressives? Sure as hell not with the Turd Way
Now there are posts here talking about Clinton and the Republican Neocons getting together
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511913533
If I wanted to support neocons and republicans, I'd be a fucking Republican.
This is insane. If Clinton pulls this off there will be no party for Progressives, Liberals. Just two versions of republican:
Walls Street Red or Wall Street Blue. Take your pick, it's a free country