2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"No viable path to the nomination"
That's true of Bernie right now.
It was true of Hillary in May 2008.
It was true of Jerry Brown in May 1992.
It was true of Jesse Jackson in May 1988.
It was true of Gary Hart in May 1984.
Just curious, Clinton supporters: did you call for dropping out in all those cases, too? Did you also think Clinton, Brown, Jackson and Hart were damaging the party?
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(626 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)Sanders has spent 25 years demonizing the Democratic Party. Did any of those others do that?
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peace13
(11,076 posts)You need to check his record.
randome
(34,845 posts)His record is that he calls the very people he needs 'corrupt'. You can't unite a party by telling them they're your enemy. The guy has great ideas and a good legislative record but no one in Congress particularly likes him. That's just the truth.
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griffi94
(3,733 posts)Just 9 years ago Bernie won the Vermont Democratic primary for the 2006 Senate race as a write-in candidate there was no serious opposition but he declined to accept the nomination. Why? Because he's always insisted he is NOT a Democrat. In fact, he has said that it would be hypocritical of him to run as a Democrat:
"It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the party."
- Interview with Vermont Affairs magazine, 1986, when he was running for Vermont Governor as an Independent against popular incumbent Democrat Madeleine Kunin, Vermont's first female Governor. Bernie got crushed, winning only 15% of the vote.
"The Democratic and Republican parties are tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum, they both adhere to an ideology of greed and vulgarity."
- Op-ed in the New York Times, January 1989. Hmmm, 1989 - that would be right after Bush the Elder defeated Michael Dukakis using the blatant racist Wille Horton ads and the ads of Dukakis riding around in a tank looking awkward. Sorry Bernie, if you didn't see any difference between the Democratic and Republican Parties you just weren't paying attention. I knew then just as I do now exactly which one party "adheres" to greed and vulgarity.
Why should we work within the Democratic Party if we dont agree with anything the Democratic Party says?
randome
(34,845 posts)Yeah, he doesn't agree with anything the Democratic Party says. That's simply a stupid thing to say. But hey, politicians say stupid things from time to time so all he proves is that he's no different from any other politician.
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griffi94
(3,733 posts)has evolved.
Of course Bernie is the only politician that gets to do that.
Every other person who changes their position
is a flip flopper. Or worse an outright liar.
Weathervane and all of that.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)and she was a lot closer than Sanders is.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)He says he is going to the convention. What kind of reception does he want to get?
You think he can spend the next month and a half attacking the presumptive nominee and the Democratic party and then get an honored place at the convention?
At some point we need to all fight against Trump and not each other.