What this says about Sanders speaks volumes

[CajunBlazer]

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One of the best measures of a man is the people with whom he chooses to associate and Sanders has evidently formed a close enough association with Cornel West that he has added him to his team:

The Hill:
Sanders names Cornel West, Keith Ellison to DNC platform committee

By choosing West Sanders has exhibited a amazing amount of bad judgement.

Cornel West has stated that Barrack Obama is the "first niggerized President" during a CNN interview. (Note to potential alerters, the quote is directly form a film clip of the CNN interview - I couldn't have made this up.)

Crooks and Liars:
Cornel West: Obama Is First 'Niggerized' Black President

West also equated President Obama to George Zimmermon:

Huffington Post
Cornel West: ‘Obama Is A Global George Zimmerman’

West also called President Obama a war criminal:

Politico:
Cornel West: Obama a 'war criminal'

Not only has one of Sanders choices to help write the party platform insulted the President of the United State, he has in the process insulted the present leader of the Democratic Party.

And Sanders wants a say in writing the party platform??? Cornell West should not only be thrown off the platform committee, he should be barred from the convention.

If it were up to me (and fortunately it is not), if Sanders continues his attacks on the Democratic Party and his astounding displays of bad judgement, I would show him the convention door as soon as the convention confirms Hillary Clinton's nomination on the first ballot.

[tazkcmo]

1. Kissinger.

Next.

[840high]

37. Bush, Trump.

[tk2kewl]

81. Kagan

[AgingAmerican]

2. Sanders saves Hillary's butt in the general, and her supporters are apoplectic with rage!

He was given unprecedented sway over the platform because the DNC is experiencing buyers remorse with Trump surpassing Hillary nationally.

[CajunBlazer]

7. He hasn't saved anyone's butt yet

And I am beginning to think that it would be best if he retires and returns to Vermont to live out his remaining years never to be seen or heard from again.

Most of his voters will support Hillary regardless of what Sanders says or does.

Most of the rest will not support Hillary regardless of what Sanders says or does.

[AgingAmerican]

8. Not yet, but

They have brought him just for that purpose

[CajunBlazer]

17. For the reasons I already gave

I think it is a waste of time and money. I am sick and tired of the stupidly being exhibited.

[hollysmom]

80. Debbie Wasserman Schultz - yeah wellcan't run the DNC worse than her

but I have to laugh about Clinton saying she has more experience negotiating, seems like Sanders can negotiate just fine, ha ha . More power to him. I am a progressive - not a pretend progressive. Not a weather vane progressive. Not a progressive in name only.

[CajunBlazer]

86. Whoo, you're a progressive - congradulations

I'm sure you right there at the top of the pure progressive heap. I'm sure that you are pure as the driven snow.

I' believe it because when people like you get uncomfortable with a subject, you try to deflect or change the subject.

[Ed Suspicious]

129. Equal rights for all! Except black women. They matter but let's not make a big thing about it.

Equal rights for most!

Wouldn't want to be too ideologically consistent. Wouldn't want to be labeled a purist.

[Stevepol]

134. You might want to edit your posts a little more closely.

It's "congratulations," not "congradulations."

In another posting, you remark,

"I am sick and tired of the stupidly being exhibited."

I believe "stupidly" is an adverb and not a noun. I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say, but I would guess it's something like "I am sick and tired of people's (Sanders'?) stupidity being exhibited." Or maybe just "of stupidity being exhibited."

[Gore1FL]

26. What is your issue with him as a Senator?

Why do you want long-time liberal principles silenced?

[tazkcmo]

29. Probaly what he did

to veterans when chairman of the VA committee. Was able to get a bunch of money to hire a bunch of doctors and nurses for the VA and reduce wait times. Or it might of been all the health clinics he got inserted into the ACA. He's such a douche.














sarcasm

[Gore1FL]

34. yep

And his fighting for the middle-class is a real deal-breaker.

Base on this thread, the poster appears to go for reactive, low-information arguments.

[mythology]

118. To be fair, Sanders first spent a lot of time denying the VA had problems

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/bernie-sanders-veterans-affairs-delays/

The bill he helped get passed was a major improvement and yes Republicans reflexively scream about all government programs being bad, but there was a legitimate problem and Sanders denied it for a long time.

[CajunBlazer]

40. I HAD no problems with him as Senator

Though he constantly complained about both parties in equal measure, at least he caucused with and usually voted with the Democrats.

Until recently had no problems with him as a candidate - he was pushing important issues. My problems with him began when he started believing he could win, but that was also somewhat understandable.

Recently however he has grown shrill and attacked the Democratic Party when it should have occurred to him it was time to start preparing his followers for a transition to the Party's eventual nominee. Is appointment of Cornel West to platform committee is the last straw for me.

If Sanders continues down this road, if a substantial Democratic candidate declared that he would run against Sanders for his Senatorial position in Vermont, I would contribute substantially to that opponent's campaign. Again, if he continues down that road I certainly would not be upset if after the election the Democratic caucus in the Senate strips Sanders of not only his chairmanships, but also his committee assignments.

Enough is enough!

[Gore1FL]

44. I remember when "Shrill" was a sexist term when it was applied to Hillary.

As far as the rest of your commentary , it's clear that you just butthurt really have no clear idea of what you are talking about. I'll just take this opportunity to say goodnight, and laugh at your subsequent posts.

Thanks.

[CajunBlazer]

51. Is that all you've got? WEAK!

[Gore1FL]

136. Not as weak as the OP, but you probably know that by now. nt

[CajunBlazer]

105. I don't profess to be an authority on Cornel West

I just presented four articles that made my point for me. So you can go argue with authors of the articles and tell them they don't know what they are writing about, or better yet you can argue with the video tapes provided in the articles of West saying the vile things he said about President Obama.

[Gore1FL]

137. You used a professed lack of knowledge in the subject you started a thread on.

Then you got into arguments with several DUers on the topic and can;t understand why they think the thread is bullshit.

interesting.

[samsingh]

101. agreed

[okasha]

41. Hell, he couldn't save his own.

The poster to whom you are replying apparently does not realize that 12>5.

[riversedge]

15. I see this is the new Sanders meme. FAIL

[AgingAmerican]

18. No, this is my new meme

Deal with it...

[tazkcmo]

30. Deal with it.

I've seen other posters post this also.

[JoePhilly]

54. Bargining.

[patsimp]

31. bernie sanders supporters have the thinnest skin i've seen

they diss it out but can't take anything.

[Gore1FL]

35. This thread was an HRC supporter freaking out.

you might want to reread.

[frylock]

38. I guess you missed the collective pants-pissing over 'lesser of two evils'

[CajunBlazer]

43. No, I didn't miss it all, another example of stupid judgement

and foot in mouth disease.

[pacalo]

3. Dubya. Bam!

[RazBerryBeret]

4. Let's be honest...

if it were up to you, Bernie would not have run against your candidate, period.

[CajunBlazer]

9. If it were up to me, Sanders would show more walking around sense

than he has been exhibiting lately.

How can his followers think he is anything but disingenuous if he rallying against the Democratic Party now and a month later is cooperating with Party officials and working hard to elect its nominee. If I were one of his followers (and thank heavens I never was), I would consider him a traitor to the cause he created if he did that.

[RazBerryBeret]

22. Interesting

I have no doubt you would

[msanthrope]

5. I actually think it's a pretty funny choice. I mean, I fully expect West to complain long and loud

about the lack of tickets provided to him and his mom....like to Independence Hall, the Constitution Center, etc. One can only hope his accommodations meet his approval.

[CajunBlazer]

12. Hell, maybe he would have gotten tickets if he had contibuted to the campaign

I did though I didn't use them.

[sheshe2]

62. High Five!

[Juicy_Bellows]

6. I really admire Cornel West.

[CajunBlazer]

13. And what does that say about you?

[Juicy_Bellows]

14. That I am a pretty cool cat.

[CajunBlazer]

20. An excellent example of self deception

[Juicy_Bellows]

21. Like Dracula in a mirror - that's me.

[CajunBlazer]

46. That doesn't surprise me

but remember when Dracula looks at himself in the mirror, he sees nothing at all.

[Juicy_Bellows]

65. That would be some self deception would it not?

To deceive oneself of one's own existence.

He sees whatever he wishes to see.

[CajunBlazer]

87. No, its because vampires aren't reflected in mirrors

If you are going to compare yourself to mythological beings you ought to learn something about them.

[Juicy_Bellows]

93. Well I tried.

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You're the one lacking understanding here my friend but not much sense in arguing.

EDIT - he sees whatever he wants to see the audience sees nothing.

"And he just walked alone with his guilt so well concealed and muttered underneath his breath, nothing is revealed."

[840high]

39. So am I. I have

always admired him.

[Juicy_Bellows]

68. Absolutely.

[sheshe2]

25. African Americans for the most part hate him.

Me. I can't stand listening to him.

He HATES OBAMA! That does not go over well with AA. Kudos to Sanders outreach to AA. Priceless! Gotta laugh.

[Juicy_Bellows]

28. "African Americans for the most part hate him."

Any idea where that came from?

Maybe a refresher for all those quick to shit on Brother West -

My anecdotal experience belies your message.

[sheshe2]

45. Maybe you should read the AA Forum here.

It would be a refresher course.

They don't like him. Lol~ dare you to post there. One of the most tolerant groups on this board. They don't like him. He hates Obama and they do not.

Post this and see what they say.

[Juicy_Bellows]

50. I do not identify as an African American so I will leave their group be.

I wouldn't post in the Atheist group if I were religious, or GDP if I were Canadian.

However, I think Mr. West is an outstanding human being and I am not alone in that belief. YMMV.

That link up-thread there is a 2016 60 Minutes interview that does a great job illustrating his life in 12 minutes. If you have the time and haven't already seen it, I highly recommend.

[CajunBlazer]

53. Hey man, it's a free country, you can identify as Martian if you like

[sheshe2]

59. Well Hell!

I am white and I am welcome there. I love their voice. Such an amazing group that sadly has been driven off this board.

You go on now, loving that man that called our President...

“Calling Obama a ‘global George Zimmerman’? No. No.”: Michael Eric Dyson sounds off on Cornel West, Obama & his critics

Author, activist, erstwhile rapper and former Barack Obama surrogate Cornel West became the president’s First Hater (at least from the left) shortly after inauguration, because of Obama’s betrayal – whether of progressive principles, or West personally, has never been clear. When West was criticized for his fierce Obama attacks by progressive colleagues and friends, he turned his enmity toward his critics, particularly African Americans he saw defending the president on MSNBC: most notably Rev. Al Sharpton, Melissa Harris-Perry and Michael Eric Dyson.


But while folks on the multiracial left have been puzzling over and lamenting West’s ad hominem haymakers at former friends for years now, when Dyson struck back this week in the New Republic, he came in for a lot of “how could yous?” — even from some of West’s critics.

West’s peculiarly personal and vicious denunciations of Obama – from the pages of Salon to the David Letterman Show — are legendary. He famously called the president “a black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats.” He claimed Obama is afraid of “free black men” and is more comfortable with “upper-middle-class white brothers and Jewish brothers.” Later he got worse, claiming Obama’s drone policies made him “a global George Zimmerman.”

When African-American friends defended the president, he went in on them. West called MSNBC’s Perry “a liar and a fraud,” claimed Sharpton was the “bona fide house negro of the Obama plantation,” and attacked “the Michael Dysons and others who’ve really prostituted themselves intellectually in a very, very ugly and vicious way.”

It’s true that as Dyson’s TNR piece bemoans the nasty ad hominem nature of West’s attacks on Obama, as well as on him and his colleagues, he gave almost as good as he got, first praising West as “the most exciting black scholar ever,” then charting his intellectual decline. “His greatest opponent isn’t Obama, Sharpton, Harris-Perry, or me,” the Georgetown scholar’s article concludes. “It is the ghost of a self that spits at him from his own mirror.”

Dyson is now being attacked for doing to West what West did to Obama: acting at least partly out of a sense of betrayal and hurt. One difference is, Dyson owns it, laying it bare in the piece. He admits his decision to break with West is fueled by pain and confusion, and having had enough – in his case, enough personal insults, as well as insults to colleagues and friends and the president the author both admires, and pushes, in his own way, to be better. “Our lost friendship is the collateral damage of his war on Obama,” he writes. Dyson makes the case that the issue isn’t how West has treated him, but how he’s helped set back left-wing politics in the age of our first black president.

http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/

[BlueMTexpat]

100. + a million or so! eom

[7962]

145. Hey if he's critical of Sharpton, he's got my vote.

Sharpton is a PROVEN liar, lawbreaker, tax evader, etc.
yet MSNBC lets him stumble through a show just to keep him happy

[msanthrope]

83. I don't identify as AS, read it every day. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

121. Absolutely!

One of the best and brightest groups on this site.

I check in every day...

[sheshe2]

147. You got that right, Bobbie Jo.

Also one of the most tolerant.

[jack_krass]

61. Many/most? people who post in the AA forum, including many of the moderators

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Are white, and almost all are massivelt anti-Bernie and pro Hillary, so forgive me for taking their opinions on this particticular issue with a boulder of salt.

While I found the words West used against Obama (who I love and admire) shocking, and regrettable, , I still admire him and value his opinions

[sheshe2]

63. Actually

The group is black and allows many people to post there.

Ah, see you don't know them at all, sure many of us are white that post there, we have been welcomed by what and how we post. With respect. We don't wag our fingers and 'splain.

No...you are wrong. Some are BS supporters. Some of the hosts are as well. As I said they are a diverse group. Why is it an issue what color the hosts are and responders are? AA is one of the best groups on this board.

I have no clue what your last sentence means. You misspelled and try as I might...I don't know what you said.

While I don't care for the words West used against Obama, I still think he's a hreat fju

[Number23]

71. "Why is it an issue what color the hosts are and responders are?"

Don't you just LOVE these folks just all busted up because of the diversity of the AA group? I could live to be a thousand and NEVER understand why some are just so utterly SOOORPRISED that he have white hosts and regular participants in that group. DU is something like 90% white but somehow, every single person who posts in the AA group or is interested in AA issues is supposed to be black?

And what's so precious is that most of the ones so utterly BE-FUDDLED about the racial makeup of our group are the FIRST ones to scream about how Sanders is some demi-god because of his participation in the Civil Rights Movement 50 years ago. So I guess, some people's participation/interest in black issues is better than others?? I LITERALLY don't get why so many here have such a problem with the folks of all colors, hues and political support who post there.

Some of my favorite members in there are Indian, Jewish, white, bi-racial and every thing under the sun. I love the folks who love our group and the folks that don't love it don't surprise me in the least nor do I wish in any way for their participation. They can keep hating. We couldn't give the first brown damn.

[sheshe2]

73. We have an expression here.

"Dawn breaks over Marblehead" a Massite expression.

Well I guess it has not caught on at DU. The dawn will never break here. Hard heads and closed minds will remain that way. I am so sorry for all they are missing.

Why is color such an issue here? We kind of like each other here. We get along well. We are diverse. You have welcomed us and I love you for that.

Why do all those white people, go out in the sun and salons to tan? They turn brown. They feel so beautiful. I don't understand why they have an issue when they color themselves.

Me and mine over the years keep changing color. Irish, German, Swiss, English, Mohawk, more. Now, Japanese, Hispanic, African American and now the youngest grand niece Caroline is half Jewish. I love our colors. You know what? We all become more beautiful with each generation. I love it.



Thank you so much for welcoming to your home.

Lol~ Agreed. Screw the haters.

[jack_krass]

82. Busted up? I could give two fucks. Sheshe suggested

i visit the AA group to "learn AA opinion on Mr.West" (after she tried to pretend she was a spokesperson for AA opinion herself).

Even if I werent banned from that group (I comitted the crime of expressing an unpopular opinion), I would never take anythin espousd there seriously, as it's a pro Hillary echo chamber with moderators who get off by banning people who dont tow the party line.

Now go ahead and leave your smarmy couple little comments on my terribleness and racism, mabye even start a thread about me in your protected little fiefdom.

I will gather AA opinions on matters such as this (which I truly do value) from other sources, such as the General DU populatuon, and people I know IRL

[Number23]

139. Yeah, your over the top, spittle flecked posts about the AA forum when most us don't know

the first thing about you (and care much, much less) definitely speaks to someone who gives "two fucks" about the thing they are screaming profanities about.

Now go ahead and leave your smarmy couple little comments on my terribleness and racism, mabye even start a thread about me in your protected little fiefdom.

That is QUITE the little persecution complex you have there. Considering that I've never seen your name before and didn't even know you were banned from the group, I think it's pretty safe to assume that most other posters there wouldn't know or care about you either. So thanks for the offer, but I think we'll pass on "starting a thread to discuss you" in the AA forum.

But I have to say, after reading this post, it's sure as hell not hard to understand why you were banned. So thanks for that.

[jack_krass]

142. "most other posters there wouldn't know or care about you either"

No doubt, and Im happy to keep it that way. No this does NOT Mean I don't like AA people.

Ive seen people banned from that group, including once an AA DUer by a white host!!!, for the most ridiculous, stupid arbitraty reasons..

Im not trying to shut down or shut up the group(even if they would me), just won't take its 'conclusions' (ie "AAs hate Cornell West&quot serilualt

[Number23]

144. The ONE AA poster that has been banned in the AA forum was every bit as hateful and disruptive

as the white folks that have been banned. I know that you guys LOVE to talk about this ONE black poster that was banned, but anyone that comes into the AA forum and starts screaming that black people need to "educate" ourselves about Sanders and we are supporting Hillary out of ignorance/stupidity/stockholm syndrome etc. will get their asses banned every bit as fast as a white person that comes in and says the same thing.

We had black folks/white folks that were/are supporting ALL of the Democrats as regulars and as hosts of the AA forum. Our one rule is do not disrespect black people. That's it.

ANYONE that comes in and defames, slimes, insults the black community is not welcome to the AA forum and that includes the tiny, tiny number of Black Friends (™) here that think they get a pass. And I'd still reinstate that ONE black poster that was banned any day of the week and twice on Sunday before I'd welcome ANY of the people that have done nothing but whine about that ONE black poster being banned. 'Cause I've seen the ones doing the whining and that are so terribly "concerned" and they are the main folks on this web site with the most damned hostility towards black people. So yeah, that "concern" is so terribly heartfelt and real I'm sure, and is not in any way being used as the LATEST cudgel to try to knock black posters and the black community over the head. Not that any of us would give any of them the time of day anyway.

[SidDithers]

122. Well said...

Sid

[Capt. Obvious]

104. I don't understand the question

[LiberalAndProud]

109. "They"

All of "them"?


I am so tired of the divisive nature of this campaign. We divide ourselves by race, by gender, by party. And when we do we declare untrue things as gospel truth. It's not one-sided and I'm not laying blame, but I am fed up to the gills with the success of the divide and conquer strategies that are at work.

We suck.

[Thinkingabout]

10. With his history of disparaging remarks about President I doubt his ability to make

Good judgements. He was not welcomed in NC and Sanders was warned not to bring him, Sanders results in NC was not good.

[SidDithers]

11. Here's West speaking at the Million Muslim March...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Million_Muslim_March

The event was organized by Kevin Barrett and the American Muslim PAC (AMPAC). The event was repudiated by the Council on American Islamic Relations, because Kevin Barrett is a fucking loon and noted anti-Semite who runs truthjihad.com, a Conspiracy site that blames pretty much every bad thing that's ever happened, including 9/11, on the Jews.

Here's Brother West strolling along with Brother Barrett after the event.




Nobody who shows that level of poor judgement should ever be allowed into policy making discussions.

Sid

[msongs]

16. Fox News chooses Bernie. way to go Bernie, get your followers wherever you can nt

[Lucinda]

19. The choice is mind boggling... n/t

[RufusTFirefly]

23. Thanks for your concern.

I'm a big Cornel (it's one L) West fan.

I realize that some find Brother West to be a bit too uppity.

Tant pis!

[Hydra]

27. I find the Cornel hate pretty interesting

It reminds me of "Burn the heretic!! He does not believe!!"

[RufusTFirefly]

36. Yup. I guess Harry Belafonte gets thrown in that fire, too.

Not to mention that self-loathing Congressman Keith Ellison.



I can only guess how the staff of Black Agenda Report would be received.

[TheKentuckian]

55. They used to talk a little stupid shit about Belafonte too but I think maybe they

saw Selma or something and just transferred his share of their ire to West.

If King was alive, I'm sure the same bunch would have tire tracks all up and down his back.

All that peace and anti poverty stuff would have made the conservatives (yup, the black ones too. Perhaps even especially them) go a mix of a million Picards facepalming in unison, a "wamp...wamp" played in 1 trillion channel 3D sound everywhere on the planet at 200 decibels all at once, about a trillion and a half Aunt Esters eye rolling, and with a mushroom cloud montage interspersed with people with steam coming out of their ears that runs 24/7 365.

[RufusTFirefly]

57. Your post made my evening, TheKentuckian!

Truly!

Keep the faith!

[TheKentuckian]

60. That means my day had some measure of success and my Marley's ghostly chain a link shorter.

[Eric J in MN]

24. Cornel West praised Obama in June 2015.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/cornel-west-obama-finally-speaking-truth-because-white-supremacy-is-a-matter-of-national-security/

Author and activist Cornel West over the weekend praised President Barack Obama for addressing white supremacy, saying it was a “matter of national security.”

[CajunBlazer]

47. I guess he is over that now.

[jillan]

32. He also picked Bill McKibben - Wow!! Plus a Muslim, an Arab, and a Native American.

He has put together a very interesting coalition.

Whatever you think of Cornell, one thing is for certain, he will NOT be silenced.

[Gothmog]

33. Cornel West is a bad surrogate for Sanders and a horrible choice for platform committee

Sanders is showing extremely bad judgment

[cantbeserious]

42. Reliably Spreading Establishment FUD - Meme 14

eom

[CajunBlazer]

48. You are endlessly defending the in defensible

[cantbeserious]

49. Your Opinion Only - Others See The World Much, Much Differently

eom

[CajunBlazer]

52. Really, imagine that....

[CajunBlazer]

56. Well, I guess it's true what they say about Sanders fans

Regardless what St. Bernard says or does, no matter how ridiculous it might seem to the impartial observer, his fans will bend themselves into pretzels trying to defend him.

[AlbertCat]

107. trying to defend him.

There's nothing to defend here.

More like trying to untie the gorgon knot of loopy logic made up to try and smear him.

[CajunBlazer]

108. If you think there is nothing to defend, you are indefensible

[ericson00]

64. Rec'ed 1000x

and tweeted to the DNC, Hillary, etc.

[CobaltBlue]

66. CajunBlazer—I disagree with you. Cornel West …

correctly recognizes the neoliberalism which has been destructive to the Democratic Party.

And Cornel West has been correct about Barack Obama.

[CobaltBlue]

67. CajunBlazer—I am glad it is not up to you.

[ThePhilosopher04]

69. Suck ups usually despise those who speak truth to power. Not surprised at your poor attitude.

[840high]

70. Yes. +1

[CajunBlazer]

89. Progressives who view other progressives as the enemy are deaf and blind

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and not very bright.

[ThePhilosopher04]

99. True progressives don't view progressives as the enemy. You can a lesson from that.

[Number23]

72. Bernie's intentional sliming of the Obama Coalition has been widely acknowledged for months and is

no doubt one of the main reasons for his exceptionally pitiful showing among minorities. That combined with Sanders' reaching out to Cornell who has been pretty much viewed as a pariah by the black community since he started with his bizarrely unhinged and pretty "critiques" of this president have rendered him pretty much a non-entity by many black folks.

So in light of all this, this really isn't all that surprising.

[Cha]

76. Thank you for that, 23~

[Warren DeMontague]

74. I thought platforms didn't matter?

Honestly, I'd like to see them put in a pro-marijuana legalization plank just to piss off DWS and the rest of the prohibitionists, but I accept that it probably won't make a ton of policy difference.

[Cha]

75. BS' fans can try to deflect from this forever but it's not going to work. There's no way

cornel west should be sitting on any Democratic committee when President Obama is the head of our Democratic Party.

It's a vile insult to all those who support President Obama and all the African Americans who voted for Hillary specifically because of west's despicable insults for almost 8 years.

Only4RM ??@Only4RM
I knew @BernieSanders wasn't for me when he embraced the now-vulgarized SHELL of @CornelWest as surrogate. @Lawrence pic.twitter.com/Hx6WXWtIjW
Only4RM ??@Only4RM
#BernieLostMe when he decided that Obama-bashing in the vilest terms was the #1 criterion to be a VIP Black surrogate for his campaign.
11:49 AM - 18 May 2016
84 84 Retweets 103 103 likes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107139577#top

I'm trying to find a way to get in touch with the DNC committee so we can voice our disapproval of west on any committee, with plenty of evidence.. for those who don't tweet.

http://www.phldnc.com/

Thank you for this, Cajon~Excellent!

[underthematrix]

77. I sent DNC an email expressing my concern about the vile much hated

mentally disturbed Cornel West and how insulting it is to the African American community to this ignorant hate-filled evil on the DNC platform committee.

[Cha]

79. Mahalo for doing that, underthematrix.. I needed your post to

get me to google their email addy.

My form is all filled out and ready to go!

[underthematrix]

124. Yayyy. Great news. Thank you!

[highprincipleswork]

78. Perhaps you're just a lot more Conservative than Cornel West or Bernie Sanders. Cornel West has a

lot of good, Progressive things to say.

I believe that regarding his most inflammatory statements regarding President Obama, he was within his racial prerogative (as much as I understand it) to talk in that general vicinity. Whether it was wise or not is another story. But he probably was incensed that Obama was not using his full power as a Black man. I"m White, but I was pretty incensed about that too. It's not who I thought I had voted for. I couldn't imagine that he couldn't have a little more fun and sheer power and a lot more dexterity using the kind of mandated power that the People had given him. I don't think Bernie would be shy about that power. Nor do I think he would leave us out of the process, saying "I've got this." President Obama, for all the good things he's done and hard sniping he's faced is not a perfect President or a perfect Man or a perfect Human Being. Cornel West was pointing out, with disappointment and some anger, that Obama was not living up to his Progressive campaign. Yes, I will insist is was a Progressive campaign, because that's how he presented it. Either that or it was just sheerly duplicitous.

In any case, Cornel West has a lot of good things to say and believes in a lot of solid, Progressive things, and he's articulate, and he doesn't just back down and shut up. I think we need someone like him representing Bernie and the Progressive point of view. Even I might have picked someone else, though, seeing how riled up the AA community gets just seeing him walk down the hall.

[msanthrope]

85. Care to expand on what you think his "racial prerogative" is? nt

[CajunBlazer]

90. Perhaps Cornel West, is a petty little man

He is a former supporter of Barrack Obama who got his feeling hurt because he didn't get tickets to the President's inauguration and has been attacking Obama ever since.

When a person has launched numerous attacks at the Democratic President of the United States using the vile language that West has used repeatedly, he should be never be allowed into the Democratic Convention, much less be a member of the platform committee regardless of what his views are. Surely Sanders could have picked someone with the very similar views without West's baggage. His selection is an in your face insult to the Democratic Party and all party members and speaks volumes about Sanders lack of good judgement.

Again, West should be barred from the convention and if Sanders continues to attack the Democratic he should have no part constructing the Party's platform and he should be shown the door as soon Hillary is elected the party's nominee on the first ballot. The defeated Presidential candidate is grossly over playing his hand and is apparently not smart enough to know it. If Sanders wants to have a constructive part in forming Democratic policy, he had better stop acting like the Democratic Party is his enemy. This is obviously just my opinion, but you can bet that Democratic leaders are having similar thoughts.

[highprincipleswork]

123. A lot of people with heartfelt passion, good intent, and a lifetime of support and action in the

Democratic Party are attacking the Democratic Party. Or else they're just quietly leaving.

[underthematrix]

125. He's disrespectful of the one person so admired by the AA community and for that reason

it is totally insulting to have the most hated man in the AA community as a voice for AA issues.

[highprincipleswork]

128. I personally would have liked another choice, because I feel the pain and the hatred due to his

comments, and also know how important it is for people to come together.

Truth is, I also wish the AA community could see past those comments (authorized or not authorized, based on West's standing as a brother) and looked to the overall history of Cornel West, what he has meant, said, done, and stood for. As captured at least pretty well in this article.

https://newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost

West is not just the person who said those things. He is also the man embraced by Obama as “a genius, a public intellectual, a preacher, an oracle,” and “a loving person.”

He is has a history of being a leading Black intellectual, with a lot to say, and a consistently Progressive point of view. It is from that point of view that he has stood behind Bernie and been critical of Barack. It is from that point of view that if this truly does go down that he will vehemently and ardently defend Black causes and speak eloquently from the Progressive side in general.

Finally, it must be noted and is not noted nearly enough that this experience of effectively "losing" the first Black President in U.S. history undoubtedly carries with it profound feelings, especially for the AA community. That has to be. I mean, we almost should be having grief counseling for the community, because the loss is that large. There is also the concern about when we will see the opportunity again. Of course, we don't really know the answer to that, in reality. And in the mourning of the end of Obama's term, it is still important to move beyond the grief and into clear assessment of what has been accomplished and what is left to be done, particularly from a Liberal or Progressive point of view. Towards that continued fight, it is important to have people like Cornel West in the mix, to get beyond what separates us and to unite in what brings us together. Frankly, that is how we create the conditions where we will see sooner the Second Black President of the United States.

I am sorry there is this huge sentiment against him. It is a warning for people of good faith to be somewhat temperate in their dealings and in their words. I would request, however, that we look beyond some of the actual words to the true intent and lifelong activities of Cornel Wes ---- for the betterment of people of the AA community and in fact for people throughout the U.S., especially those disadvantaged, everywhere.

[underthematrix]

130. I understand but you just don't do what he did. There's no compromising on this

[highprincipleswork]

131. Sorry you can't get past it.

[underthematrix]

132. I cannot

[highprincipleswork]

133. I respect and understand that.

[pinebox]

84. It's a great choice. We need REAL people

not corporate or lobbyist propped up plastic suits.

See, this is why you find this awful and mind boggling.


You're upset at what Bernie has said he'd do and the fact that he's actually doing it. He said he was going to change the face of the Democratic party and guess what, he is!

That's what this is all about, us who support Bernie are fed up with the establishment and we want people who are real and have integrity. In an age of outsiders and historically low congressional approval, where the majority see the 2 major parties more similar than anything else, the winds of change have been blowing for awhile now.

Now you may get upset with what I said but when 89 Dems vote to gut SNAP, well, change has to happen http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/1/29/1273428/-These-89-Democrats-Voted-to-Cut-8-7-Billion-from-Food-Stamps

Bernie said all along that he was going to build a revolution, guess what? It's happening.

[TheSarcastinator]

88. So Cornel West = Racist but Henry Kissinger = Genius?

OOOOOkkkkaaay then. Carry on, you brave and savvy analyst.

[underthematrix]

126. Cornel is a not a racist. He's bitter because he thought he was

going to be part of PBO's inner circle and that didn't happen - Thank God.

[AgingAmerican]

91. Cornel West is right

He is also a leader of the BLM movement.

Excellent choice!

[CajunBlazer]

92. Then he is dooming the BLM movement chances of getting anything done

If you are trying to accomplish something important, you don't piss you your best allies, who incidentally the President of the United States and the future President of the United State. That's just political stupid beyond belief.

[AgingAmerican]

96. He has been a leader of BLM since it formed

You are woefully underinformed

[CajunBlazer]

97. Then the BLM needs a new leader

Sad that such an important movement chose someone who has been busy making enemies of their best potential allies: no wonder they have been so politically naive and inept.

[TwilightZone]

112. Not to worry...

West isn't their leader. He's never been their leader. Poster has no idea what he's talking about.

[AgingAmerican]

113. A leader

Not 'Their leader'

[TwilightZone]

116. He's not a leader in BLM.

He's never been a leader in BLM. His own website's bio doesn't even mention them.

But, hey, feel free to double-down on your ignorance. You have no clue what you're talking about.

[TwilightZone]

102. Speaking of woefully uninformed...

West has praised BLM and supports their efforts. He's not their leader. He's never been their leader.

If you have a source to support your claim, let's see it. Good luck.

Start with his website. His bio doesn't even mention BLM, much less claim that he's their leader.

I guess you know more about Cornel West than he does.

[WhiteTara]

110. See post #96

DU poster claims it is so. I think the response is based on that.

[TwilightZone]

111. Yes, my response was to #96

[WhiteTara]

119. Oh!

[hobbit709]

94. Lloyd Blankfein, Donald Trump

[Orsino]

95. Cornel West is a great choice.

Far better than some Wall Street lobbyist.

[CajunBlazer]

98. Cornel West would be a great choice if the only alternative was an ax murderer

[AgingAmerican]

114. Hilary supporters hate him because he criticized Obama

Thin skin

[KingFlorez]

117. Calling the President a "Nigger" is not okay

If that's the sort of crap Sanders and his supporters overlook or excuse, then they really have no place in the Democratic Party. Criticism is the President is fine, but calling "Nigger" and comparing him to George Zimmerman is just deranged racism.

[Sheepshank]

103. West is a despicable human being

trying so very, very hard to be relevant by playing the outspoken contemptuous scholar.

And this is Who Bernie picks?

Its exactly these poor choices that has made me so glad he can never be CiC, but more importantly, sinking his campaign

[CajunBlazer]

106. Cornel West reminds me of Donald Trump

Using outrageous statements to attract media attention to himself. The problem is that hardly anyone in the general public has ever heard of Cornel West. He is a leader without followers.

[KingFlorez]

115. It's disturbing that some approve of this appointment

No one who calls the President a "Nigger" (and that's basically what West did) has any business on a committee of the DNC. It's plain wrong.

[AtomicKitten]

120. Funny stuff from Camp Weathervane who waited with bated breath for the "whitey tape" to surface.

Circa 2008. Yea, we remember.

[Raster]

127. It speaks nothing. Just more manufactured Hillirage and Brocky-balls.

[Bill USA]

135. given to bumper sticker 'insights' and demonization.....both

[kstewart33]

138. Wow, Bernie's pants must be tied up in an awfully big wad to make that move.

A 'Democrat' appointing an Obama hater to the Democratic convention platform committee.

And demanding a Kentucky recount for 1 - 2 more delegates.

Those are classy moves.

[Warren DeMontague]

140. Hillary is associated with DWS, who supports sending medical marijuana users to prison.

[MohRokTah]

141. K&R To expose the incredibly poor judgement of Bernie Sanders. eom

[LiberalFighter]

146. Sanders thinks he knows it all. If anyone opposes him they are on his floppy disk list.