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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:44 AM May 2016

Bernie Is Building an Army of Primary Challengers

[div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"]Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s opponent is his prototype.


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[div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"]Tim Canova is not Dave Brat.

Sure, Canova, who’s waging a primary challenge against Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz in Florida’s 23rd congressional district, is an underdog from the academic world taking on an entrenched opponent who raises obscene sums of cash for her party, just as Brat was in his 2014 challenge against then–House Majority Leader Eric Cantor. And yes, in both cases, it’s that very fundraising ability that made Wasserman Schultz and Cantor powerful within their own party structures but also targets for their party bases, who have viewed them as subservient to their respective donor classes.

[div style="display:inline; background-color:#FFFF66;"]The difference is that Canova, unlike Brat, is a fundraising powerhouse himself—and that was even true before Sen. Bernie Sanders, in an aggro move for someone trying to become leader of the Democratic Party, endorsed Canova’s bid to topple the current chair of the Democratic National Committee. Whereas Brat’s challenge to Cantor slipped under the radar, Canova’s bid against Wasserman Schultz is now assured to be one of the most closely watched primary contests of the cycle. If there is to be a concrete Sanders legacy, it will be measured by the ability of those whom we’ll uncleverly dub “Bernie Democrats” to mimic his campaign model against members of the Democratic establishment—but win. No pressure, Tim.

And Canova is a Bernie Democrat right out of central casting. When news first broke over the weekend that Sanders was endorsing him, it may have seemed like a spite play against Wasserman Schultz, who Sanders has attacked over a litany of perceived botched calls this cycle. But Canova is more than just the random name Sanders found while Googling to see if there was a vehicle through which to troll Wasserman Schultz. The two have a professional history: Canova advised Sanders on Federal Reserve reform as part of a 2011 panel organized by the senator. Canova, a law professor at Florida’s Nova Southeastern University, positions criticism of monetary policy higher than your average politician, and he lines up similarly well with Sanders on trade, campaign finance, and Wall Street regulation.

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Bernie Is Building an Army of Primary Challengers (Original Post) Agschmid May 2016 OP
Not a Democrat, never been a Democrat, challenged Democratic candidates question everything May 2016 #1
Not about the label or the party. It's about the positions and where one stands on moral issues ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #4
Bernie is truly going to be sorry Demsrule86 May 2016 #38
Probably because... Cornus May 2016 #5
Debbie has "challenged Democratic candidates" by supporting their Republican opponents in Florida zazen May 2016 #11
I'm guessing ignorance nt vintx May 2016 #12
If you don't know by now tazkcmo May 2016 #13
He's more a Democrat(in the traditional sense) than HRC jack_krass May 2016 #16
Being a Democrat isn't a "tradition". George II May 2016 #27
Democratic beliefs are a tradition AgingAmerican May 2016 #34
well, maybe because we think he is really a Democrat oldandhappy May 2016 #17
This is not a sport Gawd Damn it. Bad policy screws the people. Get past party labels for once. JRLeft May 2016 #18
And nominating people who can't win Demsrule86 May 2016 #39
In every district we're talking about, progressives are just as electable as "centrists". Ken Burch May 2016 #46
and that's apparently why you're so threatened by him? nashville_brook May 2016 #19
Fuck labels. Dawgs May 2016 #20
The right question to me is why are so-called democrats supporting Hillary? KPN May 2016 #24
Go Bernie! Go Tim Canova! ThePhilosopher04 May 2016 #2
Thanks Agschmid. K&R JonLeibowitz May 2016 #3
Great - hopefully at all levels whatthehey May 2016 #6
Kick...thanks Segami May 2016 #7
Tim Canova is an army of primary challengers? Where are the others? think May 2016 #8
You'll see. tazkcmo May 2016 #14
we've been told that for 9 months already, this is the team of angry do nothings uponit7771 May 2016 #33
In a hurry? tazkcmo May 2016 #35
Yes, everyone is in a hurry to stop wasting time and resources being angry and doing little uponit7771 May 2016 #45
Tim Canova Demsrule86 May 2016 #40
I'm sure you'd prefer Pay Day Debbie but some us are tired of corporate sellouts. think May 2016 #41
Good. "Throw the bums out", has a nice ring to it. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #9
it's always someone else's bums that you want thrown out Blue_Adept May 2016 #25
What "purity"? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #30
Amazing, isn't it? tazkcmo May 2016 #36
I hope they're prepared for the fight. vintx May 2016 #10
I see one guy,Tim Canova,who's running against sufrommich May 2016 #15
Here you go... Luminous Animal May 2016 #32
Is the going to fund them with his leftover campaign money? nt anotherproletariat May 2016 #21
4 people is " an army"? brooklynite May 2016 #22
An army of one? Slate must have hired Salon's headline writer TwilightZone May 2016 #23
Still waiting on his army of general election challengers. Bleacher Creature May 2016 #26
Good question! redstatebluegirl May 2016 #29
This most likely will come as a shock to many on this forum (from back in March): George II May 2016 #28
DWS is enabling predatory lending. Ash_F May 2016 #42
No she isn't. George II May 2016 #43
Counterpoint: Yes she is Ash_F May 2016 #44
It only takes one to stand up and lead. Hiraeth May 2016 #31
Him and what army? randome May 2016 #37

question everything

(47,465 posts)
1. Not a Democrat, never been a Democrat, challenged Democratic candidates
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:47 AM
May 2016

This is Sanders all the way. Never will change. The only question is, why are so-called Democrats supporting him.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
4. Not about the label or the party. It's about the positions and where one stands on moral issues
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:52 AM
May 2016

Bernie and Tim Canova stand with the American people. Hillary stands with corporations, the 1% and the perpetual war machine.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
38. Bernie is truly going to be sorry
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:31 PM
May 2016

Do you have any idea what awaits him when he returns to the Senate? He is beginning to remind me of Sarah Palin...primarying sitting Dems is the devils work.

zazen

(2,978 posts)
11. Debbie has "challenged Democratic candidates" by supporting their Republican opponents in Florida
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

Why the double standard?

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
17. well, maybe because we think he is really a Democrat
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:12 AM
May 2016

I think clinton is a right leaning centrist. This campaign has turned me towards being a progressive.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
39. And nominating people who can't win
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

leads to GOP gains...and way more bad policy...funny how Bernie always attacks Democrats.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
46. In every district we're talking about, progressives are just as electable as "centrists".
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:16 PM
May 2016

The right wing of this party has no monopoly on electability.

Do you really believe that we can ONLY hold DWS' district by renominating as drug warrior who still defends private prisons and payday loan scams?

KPN

(15,642 posts)
24. The right question to me is why are so-called democrats supporting Hillary?
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

Answer: some because they like stability, others because they are so-called Democrats.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
6. Great - hopefully at all levels
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

Political power structures are fleeting at best if started from the top. We can see how successful the Tea Party was, and how they achieved it, in a scant few years. If there really are enough people driven to remake the Dems into a more left leaning party the way to do it is at the precinct and county and state committees to begin with.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
14. You'll see.
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:07 AM
May 2016

What ever you do though, pretend it isn't so. Ridicule Sanders' supporters for all of their actions and policy positions. Belittle Sen Sanders record supporting not wealthy Americans. After all that, call for unity in the party.

Some folks just don't get it even after a year.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
35. In a hurry?
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:15 PM
May 2016

Your Inevitable One hasn't even wrapped up enough delegates to claim the nomination after a year and her opponent is reportedly a cantankerous old Jew that's a racist and misogynistic commie and you want a revolution to be complete in 9 months? Sheeesh!

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
40. Tim Canova
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:34 PM
May 2016

will lose badly...he is not right for florida and especially not Wasserman's seat as Hillary won by 38 points in her district....more money wasted by St. Bernie.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
41. I'm sure you'd prefer Pay Day Debbie but some us are tired of corporate sellouts.
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:39 PM
May 2016

It's hard to beat corrupt candidates with all their advantages but not impossible.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
25. it's always someone else's bums that you want thrown out
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

never your own.

i'd be pissed if my reps and senators got tossed out because of this wave of nuttery/purity.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
30. What "purity"?
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:59 PM
May 2016

It seems to me that people who demand we follow the dictates of one party or one candidate are the "purists" here.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
36. Amazing, isn't it?
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:17 PM
May 2016

The war hawk is called a peacemaker while Bernie promotes violence. Now we're purists for not coming to heel to the DNC.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
10. I hope they're prepared for the fight.
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

The DNC has shown how unwelcome progressive change is in this party

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
15. I see one guy,Tim Canova,who's running against
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

the person Sanders supporters hate the most. Where is the rest of the army? I'll be convinced when the donations start coming in from Sanders supporters out of real commitment to progressive candidates elsewhere as opposed to contributions that come from angry supporters to one candidate in Florida.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. This most likely will come as a shock to many on this forum (from back in March):
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016
Obama Endorses Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s Bid For Re-Election

March 28, 2016

President Barack Obama on Monday threw his support behind Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), who is facing a progressive competitor in her first primary challenge for the seat.

“Debbie has been a strong, progressive leader in Congress and a hardworking, committed Chair of our national Party since I proudly nominated her to the role in 2011,” Obama said in a statement Monday morning.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-debbie-wasserman-schultz_us_56f93747e4b0a372181a53e1
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
37. Him and what army?
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:17 PM
May 2016

I don't see how anyone can be this clueless. 99% of us would welcome with open arms a true revolutionary. But Sanders isn't it. He can't even get his own colleagues to endorse him. There's a reason for that, wouldn't you think?
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