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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:51 AM May 2016

Hillary Clinton RENEGES on Debate, Bernie Sanders Brands Back Out ‘INSULTING’ to Californians



PRESS RELEASE


Clinton Reneges on Debate, Sanders Brands Back Out ‘Insulting’ to Californians



MAY 23RD, 2016






SANTA MONICA, Calif. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday called Hillary Clinton’s decision to renege on a commitment to debate him in California “insulting” to the one in eight Americans who live in the nation’s largest state.

Sanders spoke about Clinton backing out of the debate during an address to 6,750 supporters who filled a football field at Santa Monica High School.

“A number of months ago our campaign and her campaign reached an agreement on a number of debates, including one here in California,” Sanders told the crowd. He was referring to commitments each campaign agreed to last winter to add debates to a schedule set by the Democratic National Committee.

Sanders said it was “insulting to the people of California – our largest state – that she is not prepared to have a discussion with me about how we address the major crises we face.”

Sanders’ remarks capped a day when he continued to campaign from rally to rally across Southern California ahead of the June 7 primary contest with 475 pledged delegates at stake.

Sanders expressed confidence about his prospects in California over Clinton. “They’ve been very nervous lately and I don’t want to get them more nervous but we’re going to win here in California,” he said.





In addition to California, there are contests on the same day in Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota and South Dakota. In those states, Sanders hopes to extend a recent winning streak that so far has put 20 states in his win column.

Sanders said his campaign has been propelled by excitement and energy that could carry Democrats to victory in November. He cited a surge this year in new voters in California, where Monday’s deadline for registration was expected to see some 2 million voters sign up according to projections by Political Data Inc. “Voter registration here in California among young people and working people is off the charts,” Sanders said.






https://berniesanders.com/press-release/clinton-reneges-california-debate-sanders-brands-back-insulting-californians/


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Hillary Clinton RENEGES on Debate, Bernie Sanders Brands Back Out ‘INSULTING’ to Californians (Original Post) Segami May 2016 OP
Add another Clinton LIE to the file.... Segami May 2016 #1
Prove she agreed to this debate please. nt fun n serious May 2016 #2
Back when she begged for more debates, in February, Betty Karlson May 2016 #26
Where? fun n serious May 2016 #31
Are you purposefully obtuse? It was all over the news in February! Betty Karlson May 2016 #34
either that or born yesterday reddread May 2016 #37
Curious, did HRC agree to a debate on Fox? emulatorloo May 2016 #17
Thanks Hillary, we Californians heard enough. itsrobert May 2016 #3
It's not insulting to refuse to participate in a Fox setup to... LAS14 May 2016 #4
I hope they flip it to a town hall format and Bernie gets a couple hours unchallenged. frylock May 2016 #11
Why don't we Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #5
She never promised to participate in a Fox ... LAS14 May 2016 #6
post #15 on this same topic in the last 48 hours Sheepshank May 2016 #7
Like people haven't gotten to know Sanders YET. "Wait until people get to know him", the theme.... George II May 2016 #13
Anytime, anywhere! polly7 May 2016 #8
What's your point with those videos? And.... George II May 2016 #14
It's not my point, it's HERS. nt. polly7 May 2016 #16
Okay, then what do a couple of out of context 8-year old videos have to do with the topic? George II May 2016 #19
It's 'one' video, and a clip of it where she's 'baffled' at why there's so much polly7 May 2016 #20
And she's out campaigning, vigorously. Each and every time she appears at a rally and event... George II May 2016 #23
You avoided my question completely. nt. polly7 May 2016 #24
Yes I did, because you avoided mine. George II May 2016 #25
No, I didn't. I explained my answer completely. polly7 May 2016 #27
Good for HER! Happyhippychick May 2016 #9
So when she first refused and then took part in a Fox Town Hall months ago... she LOST your vote? AzDar May 2016 #10
That was a Town Hall, not a debate. George II May 2016 #15
Same Network asking the questions and setting the tone... Cover for another lie/ broken agreement AzDar May 2016 #21
She has not refused to debate, she just chose not to do THAT debate by Sanders' hand-picked... George II May 2016 #28
She didn't "renege". George II May 2016 #12
Fear.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #18
The Clinton/DNC campaign has been a disgrace. tabasco May 2016 #22
We don't need more debates. We need to prepare for the Fall. themaguffin May 2016 #29
Most people don't want to hear anymore debates KingFlorez May 2016 #30
LOL. The cult of personality doesn't care. tabasco May 2016 #32
There were numerous debates and town halls KingFlorez May 2016 #38
There were 26 Democratic debates in 2008. tabasco May 2016 #40
Segami is having a sad Tarc May 2016 #33
Tarc is trolling nonsense... Segami May 2016 #36
Why should she debate the guy she already beat? dcbuckeye May 2016 #35
They never have an answer to this, don't hold your breath :) Tarc May 2016 #39
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
26. Back when she begged for more debates, in February,
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:11 PM
May 2016

and her campaign and Sanders' team agreed to four more debates, one of which was to be held prior to the California primary?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
34. Are you purposefully obtuse? It was all over the news in February!
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016
The Washington Post reports that the April debate will take place in Pennsylvania and the May debate will be in California.

from:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268079-clinton-sanders-agree-to-four-more-debates

And here is that report from the WP:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/02/03/its-on-looks-like-were-getting-four-more-democratic-debates/

The campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have agreed on a rough schedule for four new debates over the next few months, according to various sources, a move that shows the Democratic primary is now set to shift into a higher gear and signals we may be headed for a long, drawn-out battle

...

The first of these will be tomorrow night in New Hampshire, to air on MSNBC. The second will be in Flint, Michigan (as Hillary Clinton has requested) in March; the third will be in Pennsylvania in April, and the fourth will be in California in May, a source close to the talks confirms.


The one in NH was the one Clinton was desperate to have, because she was sinking in the polls. Now don't give me nonsense about Clinton not personally agreeing to four more debates. Sanders didn't personally agree either. This was two campaign teams and the DNC agreeing to more debates, in such a way that both candidates would benefit from the increased exposure. For Clinton to walk out of the agreement now is to be faithless. Callous. And unworthy of someone who wants to lead the USA.

"sorry, Vladimir. I know we agreed on more peace talks about Syria, but I feel that it is better to walk out right now and leave you and Tayyip to figure it out by yourselves." - rather not, right? If she can't handle a conversation with Sanders, she definitely shouldn't handle a conversation with ungentlemanlike cronies like those two.

and one more:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/03/hillary-clinton-channels-donald-trump-in-pushing-for-debate-changes-only-shes-winning/

It’s pretty clear why Clinton is suddenly eager to debate more often. When she had a massive lead in national polls, a limited schedule (only six debates, compared to 12 on the GOP side) seemed to serve her interests; fewer debates meant fewer chances for her challengers to disrupt the status quo. Now that she finds herself trying to fend off a surprisingly formidable Sanders, who nearly beat her on Monday in Iowa, Clinton is the one looking for new opportunities to shift the momentum. That, and it's a format that favors her more so than Sanders.

LAS14

(13,791 posts)
4. It's not insulting to refuse to participate in a Fox setup to...
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:57 AM
May 2016

... lob every discounted smear at her while Bernie seems to take the high road. I wouldn't want my future president to fall for that.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,456 posts)
5. Why don't we
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:58 AM
May 2016

let Californians decide whether or not she has "insulted" them by backing out of a Fox (I refuse to add "News&quot debate that is virtually meaningless to the outcome of the primary at this point.

LAS14

(13,791 posts)
6. She never promised to participate in a Fox ...
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:59 AM
May 2016

... set up to lob every discounted smear at her while Bernie appears to take the high road.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
7. post #15 on this same topic in the last 48 hours
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

And yet I STILL think it was a good choice.

Bitter, bitter, sour people who don't seem to want to understand political and campaign strategy...ever.

George II

(67,782 posts)
13. Like people haven't gotten to know Sanders YET. "Wait until people get to know him", the theme....
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:42 AM
May 2016

....after each and every one of Clinton's win over Sanders.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
8. Anytime, anywhere!
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016


Full video:



"In a Wednesday afternoon statement, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver said the Vermont senator has accepted an invitation from Fox News to debate "with the understanding that we can reach mutual agreement on the debate moderators, the format and other details.”

Weaver said both campaigns in January agreed to hold a debate in May in California, adding that the Clinton campaign has “balked at keeping that pledge.”

“More than half way through the month of May, we hope Secretary Clinton will soon make good on her campaign’s commitment and agree to a time and pace for a debate,” Weaver said in the statement.

“There are issues of enormous importance facing the people of California and our nation and the people of our largest state deserve to hear the Democratic candidates [sic] opinions."

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280405-sanders-pushes-clinton-for-debate-in-california

(bbm)

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. What's your point with those videos? And....
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

...."Weaver said both campaigns in January agreed to hold a debate in May in California, adding that the Clinton campaign has “balked at keeping that pledge.” "?

First, I doubt that "both campaigns in January agreed" to debate in California in May, and I am CERTAIN that the Clinton campaign didn't agree to allow Sanders to choose who would conduct the debate.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
20. It's 'one' video, and a clip of it where she's 'baffled' at why there's so much
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

negativity towards her going all the way to the convention. Do you not even watch??

Also, anyone running for President should be willing to campaign for 'every single vote, anytime, anywhere'!

Did she evolve on that now, too - like almost everything else?


George II

(67,782 posts)
23. And she's out campaigning, vigorously. Each and every time she appears at a rally and event...
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

...she addresses different issues, not just the same two or three issues over and over and over again.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
27. No, I didn't. I explained my answer completely.
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

You just don't want to admit the hypocrisy and cowardice involved in running away from this debate.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
10. So when she first refused and then took part in a Fox Town Hall months ago... she LOST your vote?
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

Hmmmmmm.....

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
21. Same Network asking the questions and setting the tone... Cover for another lie/ broken agreement
Tue May 24, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

Either a Candidate keeps their word, or they DON'T.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. She has not refused to debate, she just chose not to do THAT debate by Sanders' hand-picked...
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
May 2016

...network. Has she said flat out that she wouldn't debate?

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
30. Most people don't want to hear anymore debates
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

Everything has been debated and rehashed repetitively.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
32. LOL. The cult of personality doesn't care.
Tue May 24, 2016, 12:42 PM
May 2016

But thinking Americans care to hear ideas expressed and debated by the potential leaders of the free world.

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