Romney +4 PA: Susquehanna. Wingnuts hopeful again

[Maximumnegro]

Last edited Sat Nov 3, 2012, 01:45 AM - Edit history (2)

EDIT: All links so far lead to wingnut sites. Would you LIKE for me to link to them? Ok, didn't think so... Apparently the client released the numbers early, Susquehanna will release more info later. Anyways that's not the point since wel all know it's BS.

EDIT 2: Here we go, have at: http://goperiepa.com/archives/4499/

EDIT 3: HMM, there seems to be a question as to whether this IS a new poll or not. GOP bait and switch?



Damn, I had hoped those bastards would be on a downward spiral of despair but the GOP is keeping the bullsh*t coming. Of course they also extrapolate this poll to mean that there is going to be a Romney LANDSLIDE. Oh, the stupid it burns.

Susquehanna Polling and Research results for Pennsylvania released today shows Mitt Romney leading President Obama 49% to 45% among 1376 likely voters. Two percent are undecided and 3% are for other candidates.

Susquehanna also had Romney +4 in their last poll.

Needless to say if PA was truly in play Clinton and the First Lady would not be spending time in NC. Unfortunately the wingnuts are pumped again, so we can count on more BS GOP polls coming to get to GOTV.

[onehandle]

1. PA is Obama's. Trust me. nt

[Maximumnegro]

3. oh i believe it. just wish the wingnuts

didn't have a reason to be excited again. damn.

[RomneyLies]

18. Where's your link

No link, where is your link?

[CreekDog]

21. here's some issues with the last Susquehanna poll showing a 4 pt lead

Last Susquehanna Poll (10/18/12) / 2008 Vote (or Exit Polls)/2004 Vote (or Exit Polls)

Philadelphia----->10% / 12% / 11.7%
Allegheny Co.--->10% / 11% / 11%

Men-------------->48% / 46% / 47%
Women---------->52% / 54% / 53%

White------------->88% / 81% / 82%
Black------------->10% / 13% / 13%
Hispanic----------> 1% / 4% / 3%

1% Hispanic in Pennsylvania? There are a lot of Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania and in 2008 they voted too.

Also, note the men/women split.

Oversampled whites too.

Sounds suspect to me.

[still_one]

2. What is susquehanna

[Maximumnegro]

4. GOP Pollster in PA

[still_one]

24. So we know how the republicans plan to vote

[Thekaspervote]

5. I don't think guru Nate even has pa in play for Rmonney now or in the recent past

[Drunken Irishman]

6. If PA were in play, Obama would have it scheduled as a campaign stop.

[MrSlayer]

7. No fucking way.

Nope. Not happening. PA is blue.

[jsmirman]

8. I don't think I need to say anything more than

Although I will add that PA hasn't even APPEARED in Nate's right hand column of every state that is even marginally in play for a looong time.

[blazeKing]

9. And so the pre-Romney visit poll finally appears

[John2]

10. Yep

they are in North Carolina because they think it is winnable. I got a hunch they are right too. They are going to Charlotte and Raliegh.

[RomneyLies]

11. Pushing a GOP poll that no aggregator uses?

Seriously, you're trolling us with this shit that only plays on wingnut sites?

[Maximumnegro]

22. you missed the point of my post, bro.

[boingboinh]

12. FANTASTIC! Thank you!!

The more they believe it the better the chance they will waste their resources trying to do the impossible.
It's like having an outlier having Obama +4 in Mississippi....."Oh my god..Obama's gonna win Mississippi!! GOTV!"

[Pab Sungenis]

44. Even where there is no chance to win

you still GOTV! Sometimes you get surprised.

[Blaukraut]

13. Good. Let them drool over this poll. Doesn't make the poll true n/t

[RomneyLies]

14. BTW, where the fuck is your link?

I want a link directly to Susquehanna for the poll you claim exists.

I challenge you or everybody will know you're trolling.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. I'm The #1 Trollbuster And I Vouch For Maximumnegro

Those clowns at Susquehanna are as reliable as Bernie Madoff but not half as smart.

[Maximumnegro]

23. LOL. Thanks DSB!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I Think I Upset The Mods With My Trollbusting

I apologize for that but I don't apologize for hating those bastards with a passion.

[foo_bar]

33. seems to be three weeks old

Susquehanna Polling and Research provided The Washington Examiner with a poll it conducted for state party officials that shows Romney with a 49 percent to 45 percent lead over President Obama.
<...>
Susquehanna's automated poll of 1,376 likely voters was taken between Oct. 11 and 13, before the second presidential debate Tuesday that many saw as a comeback for Obama since his Oct. 3 showdown with Romney.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153#.UICAGMXA-So

Note the LV sample size, and that they haven't published any polls since 10/18:
http://sprblog.wordpress.com/

[CreekDog]

15. automated poll means no cell phones

and from Susquehanna, no crosstabs either.

[RomneyLies]

17. Notice there is no link, too

The OP is trolling.

[Logical]

16. Silver has the poll average for Obama at +4.7% and a 96% chance of winning the state!

[woolldog]

19. One of these pollsters is not like the others....

Can you spot the pollster?

[boingboinh]

27. Your link is broken

[woolldog]

35. looks ok to me.

[Cali_Democrat]

40. Ya, but the picture is so small I can't see shit!

[fujiyama]

41. ROFL

Die Sesame Street! Die!

[Maximumnegro]

25. Link added or whatever.

[boingboinh]

26. VIDEO - Rachel explaining the PA headfake that Republicans do every election.

Very interesting and informative clip that helps put into perspective this PA thing that Republicans do eveyr presidential election just before voting: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/49668788#49668788

[Tenleytown]

29. speculation

Twitchy and other right wing sites seem to be speculating based on the last poll and rumor


http://twitchy.com/2012/11/02/new-poll-shows-romney-up-by-4-in-pennsylvania/



Suseq. has NOT released the poll yet. Home page reads:

"New Statewide Poll by Media Client To be Released"

http://www.susquehannapolling.com/

[TroyD]

30. And that's coming from a GOP-friendly pollster!

Even IT can't get Romney into a lead in PA.

In fact, if Romney is (+4) Susquehanna, I think that's actually a decrease from last month when this same pollster showed Romney (+2) in PA, yes?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

31. All children eventually figure out

that Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, and Tooth Fairy aren't real too...................at some point.

[RomneyLies]

32. Still no link to Susquehanna

Just a link to a wingnut blog.

[CreekDog]

37. here's link to last Susquehanna poll (from 10/18) with same 4-point margin

http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153#.UJSRTcXA9BF

Last Susquehanna Poll (10/18/12) / 2008 Vote (or Exit Polls)/2004 Vote (or Exit Polls)

Philadelphia----->10% / 12% / 11.7%
Allegheny Co.--->10% / 11% / 11%

Men-------------->48% / 46% / 47%
Women---------->52% / 54% / 53%

White------------->88% / 81% / 82%
Black------------->10% / 13% / 13%
Hispanic----------> 1% / 4% / 3%

1% Hispanic in Pennsylvania? There are a lot of Puerto Ricans in Pennsylvania and in 2008 they voted too.

Also, note the men/women split.

Oversampled whites too.

Sounds suspect to me.

[RomneyLies]

43. So there is mo recent poll with those numbers

Thanks.

[CreekDog]

48. actually there is but even that crap poll has it tied

not Romney leading.

[Jack Sprat]

34. I'm beginning to think you are hopeful.

I swear it seems like there is always some well-meaning bearer of bad news whizzing in the punchbowl everytime he gets a chance.

[Maximumnegro]

38. LOL. then you clearly are unfamiliar with my posts

how can this POSSIBLY be a whizz in the punchbowl. it's for sh*ts and giggles. I mean come on, PENNSYLVANIA? And I figure who would you rather get the news from some handwringer or someone who calls it for the BS it is.

Damn it's like lose-lose around here.

[Tribetime]

36. I just did a spit take, LMAO

[krawhitham]

39. Pollster interview

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/11/01/video-pa-pollster-calls-state-too-close-to-call-discusses-polling-bias-and-criticism/

[DCBob]

42. STALE!! Poll taken between Oct. 11 and 13.

good grief.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-shows-romney-leading-in-blue-pennsylvania/article/2511153#.UICAGMXA-So

A new poll shows Republican Mitt Romney leading in Pennsylvania, a state that Republicans had all but written off just weeks ago but which is now listed as a toss up by the Real Clear Politics website.

Susquehanna Polling and Research provided The Washington Examiner with a poll it conducted for state party officials that shows Romney with a 49 percent to 45 percent lead over President Obama.

Every other Pennsylvania poll shows Obama ahead, though by a narrowing margin. A Quinnipiac University poll taken around the same time as the Susquehanna poll shows Obama leading Romney 50 percent to 46 percent.

Susquehanna's automated poll of 1,376 likely voters was taken between Oct. 11 and 13, before the second presidential debate Tuesday that many saw as a comeback for Obama since his Oct. 3 showdown with Romney.

[IrishMidget]

45. There's always at least one outlier poll

Remember when Romney fans thought he was tied/ahead in Ohio. Or when Romney Fans thought he actually had a chance to take Michigan?

[VirginiaTarheel]

46. It is an OLD poll taken after debate, done by GOP firm. Let's move on.

[fugop]

47. Shameless.

Just when you thought they couldn't go any lower. Really? An ancient poll touted as proof PA is winnable? It would be funny if it weren't so sad.