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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:27 PM May 2016

NYT: Hillary Clinton, Drowning in Email

"Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency just got harder with the release of the State Department inspector general’s finding that “significant security risks” were posed by her decision to use a private email server for personal and official business while she was secretary of state. Contrary to Mrs. Clinton’s claims that the department had “allowed” the arrangement, the inspector general also found that she had not sought or received approval to use the server.

So far, no security breaches have been reported; a separate F.B.I. investigation is looking into that. But above and beyond security questions, the inspector general’s report is certain to fuel doubts about Mrs. Clinton’s trustworthiness, lately measured as a significant problem for her in public polls.

Across the years of the Clintons’ ascendancy, the public has seen that Mrs. Clinton can be fiercely protective of her role and prerogatives — at times grudging in admitting error and, during Bill Clinton’s presidency, blaming a “vast right-wing conspiracy” for allegations against her and her husband that began early in his tenure and continued on through the impeachment scandal. (The right wing was definitely on his case, but hardly alone in its doubts about Mr. Clinton’s personal conduct.)

This defensive posture seems at play in the email controversy, as well as her refusal, for that matter, to release the lucrative speeches she made to Wall Street audiences. The reflex she is revealing again now — to hunker down when challenged — is likely to make her seem less personable to many voters, and it will surely inflame critics’ charges of an underlying arrogance."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/opinion/hillary-clinton-drowning-in-email.html?referer=https://www.google.con

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NYT: Hillary Clinton, Drowning in Email (Original Post) NWCorona May 2016 OP
And this is how you detect a narrative nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #1
Nadin, how do you think her campaign is going to counter jwirr May 2016 #2
I have no idea, they have been trying all day nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #7
I just posted in another thread that I think the way this is jwirr May 2016 #10
To me it has a slightly different feeling nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #11
Yup! the coverage and the headlines.... Some have been brutal NWCorona May 2016 #4
Yes, we are in that pattern now nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #9
When will the comics pile on? unc70 May 2016 #13
Soon nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #15
It's been building at a steady pace... Bob41213 May 2016 #17
I will be ducking bottles at the Trump Rally nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #18
Zing Ned_Devine May 2016 #3
All of the other manufactured "scandals" have... scscholar May 2016 #19
That would be nice for her, but it doesn't look that way Ned_Devine May 2016 #20
The Romanian hacker pled guilty to hacking her sever in Federal court a couple onecaliberal May 2016 #5
No, he pled guilty to Blumenthal's computer and agreed to testify IdaBriggs May 2016 #8
At minimum, he provides critical probable cause unc70 May 2016 #12
A news dump Friday before a holiday weekend is a pretty safe bet... nt IdaBriggs May 2016 #14
That would be tomorrow nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #16
... tandot May 2016 #6
Playing the fiddle as Rome burns? JudyM May 2016 #21
I am truly sorry tandot May 2016 #22
Don't look now, but the horse is running the Belmont. JudyM May 2016 #23
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. And this is how you detect a narrative
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:28 PM
May 2016

48 hours of this now. As media studies this is fascinating. (And the issue are serious too)

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. Nadin, how do you think her campaign is going to counter
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:30 PM
May 2016

this. This pretty much lays it out the way we have been expecting it to go. What has she got left to fight with?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. I have no idea, they have been trying all day
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

to go back to the old narrative. Going back to the Filner scandal, I don't think she can. We are in a dynamic where the principal is literally trapped between the emerging media narrative using emerging facts, and their own. If she admits she was wrong, that will be serious blowback, and would likely have to step down.

One thing you learn when covering scandals is that all of them have the same dynamic... why this has felt like one from the moment I read emails.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
10. I just posted in another thread that I think the way this is
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:42 PM
May 2016

hitting the media seems like they are really angry for being led astray. If/when the FBI comes out I suspect they will be even angrier.

It looks like finally their wheeling and dealing has caught them up in a real mess that they cannot get out of.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. To me it has a slightly different feeling
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

somebody on background told them it was coming, and I missed that memo since we are not that big. In fact, we are minuscule.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
17. It's been building at a steady pace...
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:16 PM
May 2016

Used to be a dropped major bit every few weeks, but we are down to days. I expect bad things tomorrow on the Friday of a holiday weekend.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
18. I will be ducking bottles at the Trump Rally
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:17 PM
May 2016

so will have to catch up when we get home, after we get the Pepper Spray off us... yes we are expecting it to get that bad

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
8. No, he pled guilty to Blumenthal's computer and agreed to testify
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:38 PM
May 2016

"as needed" and provide any documents in his possession.

They want him as a witness for "something"; we are assuming Hillary is the target.

unc70

(6,109 posts)
12. At minimum, he provides critical probable cause
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:59 PM
May 2016

Guccifer provides the initial probable cause with his hack of Blumenthal that legally revealed the unreported Clinton emails, server, and possible security issues.

He probably provides far more. I expect things will go downhill fast for Clinton the next couple of weeks. How much will be revealed before CA primary? Will we get more stuff tomorrow?

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