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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:07 PM May 2016

For those Hillary supporters complaining about "class warfare"...

It was the 1% that starting in the 70s, decided that they would not be good citizens and pay their fair share of taxes anymore and contribute to the betterment of society as a whole, and actively supported politicians that would reduce their taxes at the expense of the rest of society (especially putting more of the tax burden on the middle class) and that would promote bullshit theories (like trickle down economics) that would redirect money away from the middle class and onto the 1%. They basically decided to go rogue and actively promote the destruction of a harmonious civilization and at the same time would immensely profit from it. In other words, they started this war against the rest of us and have been at war against the 99% for over 40 years.

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For those Hillary supporters complaining about "class warfare"... (Original Post) AZ Progressive May 2016 OP
Did you here what an ex CEO of McDonald's said about the $15/hr minimum wage? liberal_at_heart May 2016 #1
I wonder what his DU name is. n/t QC May 2016 #7
Ive got it narrowed down to about 6 of them. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #8
LOL! I actually saw someone here complaining about "class warfare" QC May 2016 #11
I used the search function and found no recent mention of class warfare aside from this thread. Garrett78 May 2016 #12
It's in a stupendously idiotic thread called QC May 2016 #16
So, you think all wealthy people are evil? Garrett78 May 2016 #20
They prefer the class warfare in the form of unilateral aggression followed by capitulation Vote2016 May 2016 #2
there will be no more capitulation! liberal_at_heart May 2016 #3
The cry of "class warfare" has been the classic rebuke of Democrats by Republicans for... hedda_foil May 2016 #4
"It was the 1% that starting in the 70s" TwilightZone May 2016 #5
Are you referring to DU posts? Garrett78 May 2016 #6
Well, there have been plenty that adamantly refuse to pay their share in taxes and deride the poor Live and Learn May 2016 #9
I used the search function and this thread is the only recent one that mentions "class warfare." Garrett78 May 2016 #10
It doesn't have to say class warfare to be class warfare. Live and Learn May 2016 #13
You said there are plenty, so you should have no problem providing several links. Garrett78 May 2016 #14
No it isn't. You are the one wanting proof. Seek and you shall find. Live and Learn May 2016 #15
You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you. Sorry, that's Debate 101. Garrett78 May 2016 #17
Okay, put up 10 million for charity and I will debate you. Live and Learn May 2016 #18
Still waiting. Garrett78 May 2016 #19
I don't work for free. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #21

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
1. Did you here what an ex CEO of McDonald's said about the $15/hr minimum wage?
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:29 PM
May 2016

You could hear the hatred he clearly has for workers in his voice.

QC

(26,371 posts)
11. LOL! I actually saw someone here complaining about "class warfare"
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:16 AM
May 2016

today. "Not all rich people are evil!"

It's funny, but it used to be very easy to spot right wing intruders here. Now, who can tell?

Sure, that person unleashing a McCarthyite screed about the dam commies, or griping about lazy kids who won't get a haircut and a job, or declaring that ten or twelve bucks an hour is good enough for people out in the sticks might be a freeper with an extra chromosome but might also be a Progressive Who Wants to Get Things Done™.

How can we even know anymore?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. I used the search function and found no recent mention of class warfare aside from this thread.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:17 AM
May 2016

Do you have a link?

QC

(26,371 posts)
16. It's in a stupendously idiotic thread called
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:26 AM
May 2016

"Is this Democratic Underground or Green/Socialist Underground?"

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
20. So, you think all wealthy people are evil?
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:47 AM
May 2016

And that suggesting not all wealthy people are evil constitutes class warfare?

While I certainly agree that many who bring up "class warfare," like those who complain about "political correctness," are typically bigoted @ssholes, I don't really see much of that on DU. Some, perhaps, but the OP is terribly misleading and amounts to nothing more than a straw man argument.

hedda_foil

(16,371 posts)
4. The cry of "class warfare" has been the classic rebuke of Democrats by Republicans for...
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

For daring to bring up anything with an economic position to the left of Reagan. I guess the accusation can now be made by so-called Democrats, since they've taken over the moderate Republican agenda.

TwilightZone

(25,453 posts)
5. "It was the 1% that starting in the 70s"
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

If you meant the 1870's, then you're closer to the truth. If you mean the 1970's, you need to take a refresher course in history.

I recommend starting with the Robber Baron era, though there are plenty of other examples in the past 250 years or so.

Class warfare is nothing new. It's been around about as long as humans have been around, and it's certainly been around for more than 40 years. It's the same crap, just repackaged every generation or two.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. Are you referring to DU posts?
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:01 AM
May 2016

It's certainly possible that I missed it, as I don't read nearly every post, but I haven't seen any mention of class warfare.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
9. Well, there have been plenty that adamantly refuse to pay their share in taxes and deride the poor
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:11 AM
May 2016

as making their own bed and lazy.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
10. I used the search function and this thread is the only recent one that mentions "class warfare."
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:15 AM
May 2016

So, the OP is either not referring to DU posters or is just making sh*t up, which is pretty common around here.

As to "adamantly refuse to pay their share in taxes and deride the poor," do you have some links?

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
13. It doesn't have to say class warfare to be class warfare.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:17 AM
May 2016

Just try looking up some adamant Hillary posters. Pretty easy to find. One shares the first 4 letters of Hillary's name.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. You said there are plenty, so you should have no problem providing several links.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:19 AM
May 2016

The burden of proof is on you.

And the OP very specifically suggested Clinton supporters are complaining about "class warfare." DU is littered with straw men (such as suggesting that Clinton supporters are claiming Clinton will reach 2383 via pledged delegates alone), and this is yet another one.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
15. No it isn't. You are the one wanting proof. Seek and you shall find.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:21 AM
May 2016

I'll give you another hint though. Try Bernie and raise taxes.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
17. You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you. Sorry, that's Debate 101.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:28 AM
May 2016

When asked to back up a claim, it's absurd to tell the person asking for proof that the burden of proof is on them.

We've settled the matter of the OP being wrong. And now we're moving on to your claim that "plenty" of Clinton supporters are refusing to pay their fair share in taxes and have derided the poor by calling them lazy. If that's so, you should have no trouble pointing me to at least a handful of posts that do just that. I await your links.

And keep in mind that suggesting Sanders would have a tough time getting elected due to his proposed tax policies is not the same as what you're saying "plenty" have done, which is refusing to pay their fair share and deriding the poor.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
19. Still waiting.
Fri May 27, 2016, 02:43 AM
May 2016

I guess, like the OP, you simply don't have any evidence to back up your claim. No big deal. Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

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