2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWishing and hoping and praying for an indictment...
it ain't going to happen.. there is no indictment floating in the ether that will fall and give Bernie the nomination.
Not going to happen.
Getting excited over every right wing posting about Hillary being taken away in chains.. is just a right wing fantasy.. that will give you nothing but a migraine if you count on the possibility..
Renew Deal
(81,875 posts)No matter what happens.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)Yes I support Clinton as the better choice..
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)He was against the war. As was Sanders.
Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)And I give Bernie all the props in the world for opposing the war as did Obama.. but while we beat the proverbial crap out of these canidates who made that vote for war.. we tend to forget that the Bush administration lied to congress.. poor Colin Powell sitting at the UN spouting the lies that had been fed to him.. they were all lied to..
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Of course we all knew better. But he had access to information that we did not.
seekthetruth
(504 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)msongs
(67,453 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)take military action and use drones.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)He certainly did not vote for Iraq, which was a crime.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)in congress is the IWR? No, there have been more, look at his voting record, this can not be changed and is a part of history forever.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Who thinks regime change is a matter of "Pretty please?" Anyone?
It's accomplished by force of some sort.
This isn't news: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/02/16/blood-traces-bernies-iraq-war-hypocrisy/
lmbradford
(517 posts)This investigation was started by Kerry. This is Obamas IG who released the report. There is nothing right wing about it. This is real.
She did it to herself.
840high
(17,196 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I know the FBI report will be part of it too. But it is coming. and the press is not laying off either. I am sorry... I really mean it. But this will be hard on you folks. But if you all decide to use that loaded gun on the table to commit political suicide, go for it, Just don't blame us, we have been trying to warn you,.
Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)What grand jury has been set up for an indictment??
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and no, they don't tell you when those are.
As is, I suspect it is you guys living in denial. The news will continue to his this... and the bunker mentally is a classic of a mature scandal as well.
Don't worry, you will have your safe space soon, but the news is not stoping. and the FBI is going apace. I am sorry, I mean it, hard times. And i do hope people much higher than your pay grade are waking up to this. In fact, I think they are.
And it is your choice, give the WH to trump, and use that loaded gun, or not.
Oh and don't Sanders me, or voter me. This has nothing to do with that.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Lol, will you come back and admit your error when the Indictment Fairy fails to materialize?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I an not the guilty one for that. So do not blame the people who tried to warn you. IF you chose to use that loaded gun, that is on you. I suspect your party elders are waking up to that reality. And who your party elders chose, I don't give two fucks about it. For all I care you could run the man on the moon. And you could chose him after proper sacrifice of goats to the gods and reading of entrails
But if you chose to use that gun... by all means, I am not going to stop you.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Would you prefer a nuke? It is possible this will blow the party brand for a generation.
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)that would be people like you.
And no I an not tweety. He is a moron
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)It will be non stop attempts to go after her and bring her down.. that is not going to stop.. Any candidate running in opposition to the republicans has to face that crazy machine..
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)your stark choice, and that of your party is coming. Party, country, it is coming. You guys have been under estimating both TRUmp and this for months. la, la, la is not going to cut it.
But the bunker mentality is a classic
She is now the tool you can use to commit political suicide. This is far more real than actually trying to stop a depressed person from committing actual for real suicide. But all you have to do at this point, and some of you will, is pick up that that gun and pull the trigger. You may even destroy the party brand for a generation... not that I care, it is not my party anymore. But I care about your party enabling the election of a fascist. Congrats.
And spare me the Sanders talk, This is well beyond mere electoral politics anymore. IT is already hitting the fan. I expect you guys to blame me and others, well we tried to warn you. We will not take the blame for your historic mistake.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Peachhead22
(1,078 posts)...a crystal clear statement from the FBI saying she did absolutely nothing wrong. Because anything less than that doesn't remove the cloud over her head and fuels Republican talking points. Which hurts everyone trying to keep Trump out of the White House. Plus our downticket. Maybe for years to come.
And with the letter from the State Dept OIG a total exoneration is out the window. Even if the FBI doesn't recommend an indictment. Do we really want a Democrat to run with the slogan "At least she didn't break criminal law...technically"?
I'd use the common colloquialism that I want to FBI to "do something" or get off the "something". But I'm quite confident a Hillary supporter would twist it around and intentionally misinterpret it if I used a four letter word within several paragraphs of their candidates name.
In other words: Stop with the fantasies of what my and other peoples desires and motives are.
Peacetrain
(22,879 posts)Democratic candidate.. its can they stand up to the incoming.. that is the sad fact of politics for the last 40 years..
Peachhead22
(1,078 posts)...we shouldn't give them such an easy target and loan them a couple metric tons of mud.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Clinton Foundation, and the potential there is definitely for larger issues. Pay to Play is frowned upon, and it is beginning to look like that is how they became fabulously wealthy after "being broke" in Arkansas.
Follow the money, as they say. The emails, as they re-create the "wiped ones", will tell the story.
I don't like her, but I think she got in over her/their heads and the money went to their heads. They have gotten away with so much over the years, why not this time. I have seen photos of the five mansions they own. Pretty heady, I'd say.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)it ain't going to happen. Unless Trump hands it to her, which I have always maintained is the reason he ran anyway.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)That is the part you folks don't seem to understand. At all.