2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFart-ins? Hassle Lines? At the Convention?
I've seen mentions of such things here, on reddit and elsewhere. I'm not sure what the goals of protests like those might be, but I'm sure they won't be happening anywhere near the convention venue in Philadelphia. Security at that venue is going to be very tight. If someone doesn't have credentials to be there, they aren't going anywhere near the place.
The bean eaters will have to enjoy their gaseous output for themselves. Those setting up hassle lines will only have themselves to hassle. And forget about doing such things at hotels where credentialed convention attendees will be. There will be security at those, too.
Now, all of this might be just bluster, with no such activities actually being planned, but if not, it's clear that those doing the planning have no experience with a major party nominating convention. If you don't have credentials, you're not going to be near the convention. If you do have credentials, but think you're going to do something like this, take the time to read the civility section of the convention rules.
There's nothing wrong with public assembly and protests. They're useful and important. But, planning to disrupt the convention in Philadelphia? Not useful and not feasible, either. It's not happening anywhere near the venue.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)MineralMan
(146,329 posts)with party national conventions. We had one here in St. Paul in 2008. Anyone with any sense simply avoided the entire area near the venue for several days. That's what I did.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Thank you.
randome
(34,845 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)donations. I would think that for a group concerned with poverty--it would be better to ask the people to donate the beans (along with other items) to a food pantry!
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)FSogol
(45,525 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)Are NOT real Democrats, Liberals or Progressives. How stupid does one have to be to join such a childish demonstration of immaturity? If I were Bernie I would be ashamed of this kind of action. These people never were supporting Bernie, they are trolls, trouble makers and idiots.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)MineralMan
(146,329 posts)Forcing people you disagree with to pass between protesters on both sides is a pretty common strategy. It's just that it won't work at the convention, since you can't get there. I suppose it could be tried at the airport or at hotels used by attendees, but I doubt that would be tolerated either.
The bean-eating fart-in, though, seems pretty much like an attempt at humor.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)To tell delegates that the protestors support Bernie Sanders? So what? We've made our choice; nobody will change their mind because some protestors only support democracy when their side wins.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)I don't know what the purpose might be. I guess that depends on who's doing what. I do know that hassle lines are designed to intimidate and create anxiety among the people who have to pass through them. They're pretty good at doing that, but not very good at changing outcomes. I've never participated in one. I've had to endure a few.
Still, security at the convention will prevent any such things near the venue. I suppose one might happen at a hotel or other location. But they're useless in changing anything.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I thought it was the Onion when I first heard about the fart thing.
Smh.
Gothmog
(145,554 posts)I doubt that I will see any of the protests at the national convention unless
I leave the convention site
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)The convention site will only be accessible during convention sessions in the evening. Caucus and Committee sessions will be held at the convention center. Attendees will basically spend all of their daylight hours in Center City where the protestors will endear themselves to the working class locals by blocking traffic and cluttering up the parks.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)MineralMan
(146,329 posts)having protesters line both sides of a route into a venue. The tighter the quarters, the better. As attendees at an event are forced to pass along that route, the protesters verbally and physically crowd them and shout at them. Signs are waved and the more disruption, the more successful the hassle-line is considered to be.
It's nothing new. However, in Philadelphia, such protests can't succeed, because access to the convention venue area will be heaviliy restricted. Delegates and other credentialed attendees will be staying at hotels that are not close to the venue, and will be bused to the convention venue. There will be no opportunity to set up a hassle-line bottleneck area.
The most commonly-seen hassle lines have occurred at Planned Parenthood clinics, where major protests have forced women to pass through them to gain entry. They are also used at campaign events, etc.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)including not displaying credentials outside the convention etc.
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MineralMan
(146,329 posts)On the other hand, there will also be delegates there to support both candidates. The convention rules, particularly the decorum rules are going to be challenged at times, I'm sure. Many national delegates this year are first-time delegates, unfamiliar with major political party conventions.
I'll be watching the process in action whenever I can, as always. CSPAN usually has pretty decent convention coverage, without too much noxious commentary.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I've heard of that in front of Planned Parenthood, but never realized it had a name.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)by various organizations, to help people learn to cope with harassment. I've never liked their use for any reason, though. My days of active protests and demonstrations have been over for a few years now, though, so I don't deal with such things any longer.
obamanut2012
(26,137 posts)Basically, having to run the gauntlet to get into a venue.
MineralMan
(146,329 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)they like the smell of their facts, everyone else finds them really stinky.
riversedge
(70,299 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)riversedge
(70,299 posts)oasis
(49,407 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)So many childish things on both sides. Really needs to stop.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I almost feel a little boring for being on the "grown-ups" side of the contest!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Farting and harassing Democrats at the Democratic Party' Convention gets a big from me!
I posted the article about the fart-in on FB (an attempt to share some humor) and it got "likes" and the usual HRC-hating comments from my few RWNJ "friends". They obviously didn't read the article to note that the gaseous protest was coming from "our" side.