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underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
1. I did see this. And I have seen earlier reports from traditional print sources that
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 02:56 AM
Jun 2016

Trump may not be the nominee. I can't see it but you never know.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Details only through click through suck.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jun 2016

Please be specific. Not everybody here has unlimited download. Some of us are rather download and bandwidth limited. That's the way in extreme rural America. No Cable TV; no broadband INet; no sewers or city water. We have electricity though. And indoor plumbing -- thanks to my artesian well and a very old septic system which is barely holding up.

Thanks.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
8. It says hundreds of republican delegates are planning
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:11 AM
Jun 2016

to dump Trump.

Here's the first few paragraphs:

Unconventional has been reporting for some time now on the concept of disgruntled Republicans dumping presumptive nominee Donald Trump at the Republican convention that begins in Cleveland on July 18. Last month, we dug deep into the GOP rule book — and the party’s history — to figure out whether deep-sixing the Manhattan mogul is even possible at this point. (Short answer: It is.) And later, we explained what would have to happen between now and Cleveland to convince Republicans to go through with it.

But there were never any actual delegates, you know, plotting to wrest the nomination away Trump at the convention. It was all just speculation. Until now. On Friday, the Washington Post reported that dozens of Republican convention delegates had hatched “a new plan” to block Trump in Cleveland — a plan, according to the Post, that amounted to “the most organized effort so far to stop the businessman from becoming the GOP presidential nominee.”

At the time, the latest Dump Trump cabal was fairly small. Roughly 30 delegates from 15 states participated in a conference call Thursday night, with Republicans from Arizona, Iowa, Louisiana and Washington signing on as regional coordinators. A Christian schoolteacher and rules committee member from Colorado named Kendal Unruh — a former Ted Cruz supporter — was leading the charge. Since then, however, Unruh’s campaign appears to have picked up steam. A second conference call on Sunday night attracted an alleged 1,000 participants. Unruh & Co. claimed that “several hundred delegates and alternates” had now rallied to the cause. The group announced plans raise money for staff and a possible legal defense fund. And they even gave themselves a name: Free the Delegates.

As regular Unconventional readers know, there is a convincing case to be made that Republican convention delegates are already technically free to nominate whomever they want in Cleveland, despite the impression that they are bound by the results of the primary votes in each state. Every convention votes on its own rules, so if this year’s GOP delegates wanted to unbind themselves, the argument goes, nothing would stop them. Numerous judicial rulings have found that even state laws, which purport to bind approximately one-third of the delegates, cannot govern the internal affairs of a national political party — such as how delegates vote at a convention.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/unconventional-special-report-hundreds-gop-000000630.html

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. Thank you very much.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:26 AM
Jun 2016

DU has many advantages, in that Elad has concocted a very efficient infrastructure which allows us bandwidth and download limited people a forum where our voices may be heard without undo burdens.

I don't know if that was the DU admins intentions. However, they certainly have achieved those ends. I would certainly encourage them to continue in this vein.

Keep things simple and give everybody a voice, hopefully politely.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
12. You're welcome and I agree wholeheartedly.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:33 AM
Jun 2016

This is an amazing place to interact with a lot of different types of people. It still blows my mind that we can communicate with people so directly, in so many different types of places and with so many different lifestyles.

For me it's a lot of fun, so much intelligence and great wit is shared. It's especially enjoyable when we find people who are kind to others with perhaps somewhat differing viewpoints. I'm so glad we're uniting to get more democrats elected to all offices. We can accomplish so much with sane policies that help the large majority of us!

watrwefitinfor

(1,400 posts)
18. You speak for others, longship.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 08:00 AM
Jun 2016

Thank YOU very much, too.

Last figures I saw indicated several million of us left with no recourse but dial-up. Probably not all of us trying to read DU, of course. But DU is definitely one of the sweetest loading political sites on the web.

Wat

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. Oh dear! The Ted Cruz religious cabal.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:44 AM
Jun 2016

Please! Not him! He is even more of a lunatic than Drumpf. Has anybody paid attention to what Cruz's father says? They are both barking fucking mad! I would rather have incompetence (Drumpf) than utter insanity (Cruz).

Let's keep Drumpf. At least we can defeat incompetence. Barking mad religious insanity? I am not too sure about. There are too many of them. Witness the state legislatures across the country and their reaction to the SCOTUS gay marriage case.

Barking mad! That is what Ted Cruz is. Granted, Drumpf is the same, but at least Drumpf is certifiable. Maybe not so Cruz, who seems to hide his utter madness.

That's what we don't need. A Milleniumist religious kook in the White House. Cruz!

msongs

(67,457 posts)
3. hmm nominee with most votes threatened to be removed from nomination. sound familiar?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:22 AM
Jun 2016

trump got more votes in this repub primary than any repub ever in a primary, including reagan, yet there is a rebellion brewing to take away his nomination.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
4. I've heard this quite a few places today, but I believe, if they do that,
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:29 AM
Jun 2016

they'll loose worse than they'd loose with the Trumpster. We all know how rowdy his supporters can be and very emotional too. If the Pubs take the nomination away from him, they'll either not vote at all, vote for some other candidate on the ballot (like Libertarian) or vote for Hillary just to pay them back for being such AH's.

Besides, who the hell are they going to pick? Cruz? Yeah right, the guy who didn't really come close in the primaries. Kasich? Right! The guy who won ONE STATE!

I'm buying a lot of popcorn and beer for their convention! Great summer entertainment.

Journeyman

(15,042 posts)
6. And not just lose this election, but potentially compromise plenty of future support . . .
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 03:48 AM
Jun 2016

why would anyone want to associate with a political organization that solicits your opinion, then overturns it seemingly on a whim.

 

AntiBank

(1,339 posts)
10. Bill Frist would be a potential BUT Trumpf will run 3rd party if they kick him
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:30 AM
Jun 2016

only thing in the world I would guess that can stop Clinton is the highly unlike FBI scenario

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
11. How about for dropping out
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:32 AM
Jun 2016

the GOP pays back the $45 million Trump himself has loaned his campaign?

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
13. They might try to push him to quit
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:34 AM
Jun 2016

They might say "We got enough delegates to make sure you don't get the nomination. However, if you drop out now, here is the $45 million back that you loaned your campaign".

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
14. then there's the report that Donald might go away if he's bought off @ $150 million
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 04:39 AM
Jun 2016

He says it's low and no way, but a few billion, he'd have to think about.

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