2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Yes, I WILL vote for Hillary Clinton in November..." ~ Bernie Sanders
still_one
(92,502 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Welcome to the Revolution!
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Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Response to Cryptoad (Reply #2)
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JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)tclambert
(11,087 posts)HA-ha-ha. Sometimes I crack myself up. Sanders voting for Trump! Imagine. I think it's hilarious that Trump thinks he can woo Sanders' voters to his side. ("Bernie-bros, join with me and learn the POWER of the dark side."
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Though, she just wanted the attention.
I'm glad he's doing the right thing.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)That truly would have been a very sad thing to see so late in his distinguished career.
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)Stein was just looking for some publicity. And it worked, briefly.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)And to be fair, that attention was little and short-lived.
George Eliot
(701 posts)Greens closer to Dems than Libertarians or Republicans. Why put downs to anyone who wants left policies for US?
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)George Eliot
(701 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Go to her twitter feed and read. She calls the Democratic party all kinds of names, not to mention dissing Clinton, but her attacks on the Republicans and Trump are nebulous and mere afterthoughts. She's angry at us, not those who will destroy everything she's fighting for. Perhaps it is because she needs to differentiate her party from us, but to be honest, I think it's more personal spite because we fight the progressive fight (a lot more successfully than her, I might add) yet will not acknowledge her superiority and leadership.
MADem
(135,425 posts)She's a Green, and no one in 'her' party challenges her leadership of it.
Which might have something to do with the fact that they aren't growing.
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OwlinAZ
(410 posts)One of the very few politicians who is trustworthy.
Now the trolls will turn on Stein.
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)not that hilarious. and he's irate he's getting mail from her. those two are like . what .. taking ideas from each other smh
the only people from Bernies came that will really go Trump and Indie's and for sure Republicans. Who for whatever reason .. well I won't go into that here..
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)sangfroid
(212 posts)nt
zonkers
(5,865 posts)markj757
(194 posts)as long as when it became clear who was our presumptive nominee, that he treated our nominee with respect. And I feel he did so in that interview. I also feel he has a critical role to play in making sure the platform reflects the will of the Democratic party, and reminds Hillary that the liberal wing of the party is a force to be reckoned with going forward.
demwing
(16,916 posts)The $15 min wage and opposition to trade deals dies on the table
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)but I think the primary was a pretty clear repudiation of the liberal wing of the party.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)but I think what you call repudiation is simply a measure of the ignorance of many
rightwingers don't have a monopoly on that nor the voting against one's best interests it often results in
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Sentence structure. It helps.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)that's as impotent and _____ as it gets
Johnny2X2X
(19,254 posts)Hillary is the Liberal Wing of the party, Sanders is barely to the left of her when you compare their records and positions.
Hillary is more liberal than 80% or more of a Democratic politicians.
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)When I canvassed for Bernie and among the people I know, many who voted for Hillary in the primary did so for practical reasons (electability concerns/doubting whether Bernie's platform could get done), but preferred Bernie's policies. Considering how much of an institutional advantage she had, I think the fact that he did so much better than expected shows that the liberal wing of the party is, as the OP said, a force to be reckoned with. I certainly don't think the primaries could possibly be called a repudiation of the liberal wing, given the fact that everyone expected a quick coronation of Hillary and it didn't happen.
sangfroid
(212 posts)Do you honestly expect the "liberal" wing of the Party to hang around and work and vote for someone they clearly do not support because the opposition candidate is a bit worse? Really? Because no one wants to hang around someplace where they've been "repudiated."
MADem
(135,425 posts)The "Let's Have a Revolution" branch? Not so much. No one has an appetite for tearing down--the "enemy" is that guy in the stupid golf hat with the dumb embroidered comment on it. But they're welcome to sit with the old school liberals if they'd like. We don't have to destroy the party in order to save it.
sangfroid
(212 posts)The revolution types have been estimated to be 33% of the total of Bernie supporters. It is also estimated hat those folks will NEVER vote for either of the presumptive candidates. Instead, they will stay home, vote third party (and the numbers indicate an interest in Green and Libertarian) or write in. Hell, Mickey Mouse might even get an Electoral College vote.
I like Elizabeth Warren. If she had run, I would have been happy to vote for her as the first female President. Unfortunately, to the younger Bernie supporters, she is unknown quantity who waited to almost the end of the primary before announcing her preference. And to be frank, her sudden interest in fighting for the Democratic presumptive candidate is a bit disingenuous. As MSNBC said, covering the first rally, "well, that should pull in the Sanders supporters."
Nope. They can't possibly think Sanders supporters are that stupid.
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)Keep swinging there, Sport
Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)A Sanders endorsement of Clinton could come ahead of the Philadelphia convention
BURLINGTON, Vt. Bernie Sanders could offer an endorsement of presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton before the partys convention next month, depending on the outcome of ongoing policy talks between the two campaigns, Sanderss campaign manager said Friday.
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Taken together, this points in a positive direction, I would say.
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)Instead of anything for himself, like a cabinet post, speaking slot at the convention, or help paying off debt. Those are the kinds of things candidates usually ask for in exchange for endorsing their former rival.
niyad
(113,860 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Sanders went on to add that he believes This country faces enormous crises, before adding that his campaign is working with Clintons people. He later reiterated his claim that he would do everything he could to make sure Donald Trump was not elected president.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)pnwmom
(109,024 posts)problems go away, then he is on record as saying YES.
There is nothing to his statement about fighting Donald Trump that is incompatible with his initial, definite YES.
niyad
(113,860 posts)Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)If he really wants to.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)
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SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,345 posts)Political news has been quite enjoyable as of late.