2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLETS BAN ALL POLL DISCUSSIONS!!!!!
Since any question about any poll discussion or any worry about any polls is obviously "Trolling" we must ban poll discussions.
Carry on, just NO POLL DISCUSSIONS!!!
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)The others just plain suck, anyway.
TwilightZone
(25,479 posts)The "OMG, the world is ENDING!!! Hillary must change HER ENTIRE STRATEGY IMMEDIATELY" nonsense is what most object to, not the posting of polls. That and the selective posting of negative polls, while ignoring positive ones.
That being said, too much importance is placed on the daily fluctuations in polling data, especially pre-convention. There is little or nothing to be learned by freaking out about every poll released this early in the election cycle.
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Nothing to discuss without one.
Seriously though, the polls are pretty darn favorable to Hillary overall, not sure why people are freaking out.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)This is why I thought the long primary was damaging...there is a threshold of GOP voters who will vote for GOP types no mattet what...it is about 40 % in my opinion.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Posts titled "time to panic?" (Literally, that was an actual post title today over a few bad state polls!) are bizarre.
She's ahead by several points in most national polls and all aggregates. But she might fall behind. Polls are volatile and it's only July. There is nothing to be gained by panicking and running around like the sky is falling if there are a few bad polls. Not to mention it's very unclear what "panicking" entails, it's not like it helps change the polls!
I mean, most of us have been through a few elections right? Don't panic, get back to work!
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)by people who haven't yet said they'd support and vote for Hillary Clinton?
Logical
(22,457 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Also, when can we all see your 100% support for Hillary with an avatar, signature graphics and a few posts showing how salubrious Hillary's presidency will be?
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)Are really about dislike of Hillary more than concern...the underlying sentiment is ...we told you so. Also, the constant posting of every bit of bad news is demoralizing. We need to stay positive. The Quinnipiac poll which showed good numbers for Trump iis an example...there were several positive polls that came out at the same time, but these were ignored. Why? And Quinnipiac is known to be unreliable.
progree
(10,918 posts)The question is, what is the threshold for considering positive?
I asked that question back in 2012 regarding Obama's poll numbers. If you posted a poll that had Obama up by 5% or more, everyone was happy. If you posted one where he was up by only 3%, people would crap on you and call you a troll. So I asked the question -- exactly what is the threshold for DU acceptability?
Many DUers like to live in a bubble-verse fairy tale world where they only want to see the top third most positive polls. That's just the way it is.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)I think those are safe topics and we should just stick to those.
Logical
(22,457 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Yavin4
(35,445 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)My only qualm is the many duplicates that are posted.
progree
(10,918 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We are in a great starting point. It's also nice for us to see those "concerned" as we move to beat Trump.
I would rather ban ops dripping with hyperbole and directed at making the discussion about duers comments.
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)The cherry picking of any poll that looks bad for Hillary while ignoring the good ones and then the 'concern' is not helpful. It is true that this far out polls are pretty much meaningless.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)Many times, the thread heading gives it away.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)just so that you can run back to JPR and tell them how clever you were?
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