Am I the only one tired of the Bullying of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?

[bravenak]

While I may not agree with her on policy or appreciate the way she ran the DNC, I am just bone tired of the constant piling on and bullying of one woman to the point where the web has become rife with sexist comments and nasty egregious insults.
I'm not talking about just today, I'm talking the past year or so. The General Election is here. This ramping up of attacks on Debbie does absolutely nothing to help us win in November and I just do not see how it is helpful for Democrats to tear the party apart over the DNC chair.

[Nancyswidower]

1. Bullying of DWS....really?

How about bullying BY her Administration as DNC Chair?
Just asking.

[Her Sister]

39. Yeah! Really! Bullying! Abusing! Happened! We noted !

[L. Coyote]

367. Have we no decency? Not to mention historical perspective.

[center][/cener]

[center]
Some History of Trump Operatives

Deja DU excerpts, many more at link: Bush vs. Gore, the 'Arkansas Project,' the USA firings, and the Swiftboat Admiral

L. Coyote Jun-09-07
44. Donald Trump, Roger Stone, Jack Abramoff, Gaming Gaming and Scalping the Tribes.

How is it that two consumate Republican insiders, both purported specialists in illegal
funding of campaigns, one a political dirty trickster who stays behind the scenes and
the other a felonious convict linked to the White House political office, each manage
to garner tens of millions of dollars from Indian tribes in the gaming rackets? By
working both sides at once, of course. And, how is it that one gets convicted and goes
to jail while the other keeps getting paid? Who is scalping whom for how much, who has
lost their scalp, who still has theirs, and will Donald Trump's hair survive the scandals?

With all the attention to Abramoff defrauding the Tribes, why isn't there more attention on
who else is involved in all of gaming's political machinations and influence peddling?

Who has lucrative contracts to receive a percentage of the gross from Indian casinos, and
how did they obtain it? Where is all that money going? How much ends up in the coffers of
politicos like Sen. John McCain, and why? Who else is scalping the Tribes?

And how much of the scalping goes to legal and illegal campaign contributions?

Questions to be answered.

36. Who is Roger Stone, Jr.? Buckley, Nixon, Reagan, Bush operative.

"Roger J. Stone, Jr. is a long-time Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000. He was also a campaign strategist during the presidential campaigns of Presidents Nixon, Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush. .............


........ Roger Stone and the Jack Abramoff mould. Making $$millions$$ gaming gaming.

A Dirty Trickster's Bush Bonanza
The man who stopped Miami recount makes gaming millions
by Wayne Barrett
April 19th, 2004 9:30 AM
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/...........

Roger Stone, the dirty-tricks hobgoblin of Republican politics, has exploited his Bush connections to become an influence-peddling force in the $13 billion Indian gaming industry. Stone's booming business in such a federally regulated enterprise makes his recent pro bono orchestration of Al Sharpton's double-edged presidential campaign an even stranger covert caper.

The longtime GOP consultant's reward for fomenting the "Brooks Brothers mob" that shut down the Miami-Dade recount in 2000 was an invitation within days of Bush's election to serve on the Department of Interior transition working group—helping, in his own words, to staff its Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). Stone has since used this unannounced perch to market himself to tribes and developers from Louisiana to California, earning fat fees and contingent percentages of future casino revenue. Just two of the five deals examined by the Voice are projected to pay him at least $8 million, and perhaps as much as $13 million.

Time, The Washington Post and The New York Times have published exposés about Bush's BIA, with a February story highlighting $45 million in payments to two GOP lobbyists from four tribes since 2001. But no one has focused on Stone's profiteering, which, unlike the payments to registered lobbyists, is not reported on any public filings. ..............

40. Roger Stone, Iran-Contra, NCPAC, Blackwell, Buchanan, Rove, Sex & Trump's Money ...

What role did Stone play in financing the Contras? .............

41. Roger Stone - "slash-and-burn Republican black-bag election tamperer"

A Prayer for Reverend Al
Let Him Buy His Soul Back from the Republicans
by Doug Ireland
www.dissidentvoice.org
February 21, 2004 - First Published in LA Weekly
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Feb04/Ireland0221.htm

Who is Roger Stone? A slash-and-burn Republican black-bag election tamperer and consultant whose mentor was the repulsive Roy Cohn — the redbaiting hatchet man for Senator Joe McCarthy. Stone first made news in the Nixon Watergate scandal, when it was revealed that the 19-year-old apprentice McCarthyite had infiltrated George McGovern’s 1972 presidential campaign as part of CREEP’s sabotage plan. ... Stone helped Ollie North raise money for the Nicaraguan contras, and was a close associate of the notorious Lee Atwater ...

This one, my favorite, exemplifes the lengths to which these unscrupulous operatives will go just to malign a Dem candidate. This is not democracy, it is criminal conduct.

48. Swiftboating Al Gore from Argentina, SIDE, Israeli wire transfers, spy files, forgery, Bush & Menem

un-10-07 04:44 PM by L. Coyote
There just is no way to make this stuff up!! This is a court pleading. Unbelievable.

First get some spy files from Israel, alter them to look like Argentine spy files, make them implicate Bush and Menem in corruption, blame Gore for the forged documents. Sound familiar. Did I mention blackmailing bribed journalists and, of course, the perennial covert Republican dirty tricksters. This genre of dirty trick came to be known as "swiftboating" when done to Kerry four years later by the same players!!

==========================
http://pacer.ca4.uscourts.gov/opinion.pdf/041901.P.pdf
Olavar (Triumph Communications International Group, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v.
Santibañes, Defendant-Appellee, and Ikon Holdings, Inc., t/a Ikon Public Affairs, Dick Morris, Roger Stone, Eileen McGann, John Does, Defendants.

Appeal from the United States District Court Decided: December 1, 2005

Triumph Communications International Group, Incorporated is a corporation that provides political consulting and public relations services and is owned and operated solely by Mattie Lolavar.

In early 2000, Miss Lolavar began discussions with defendant Dick Morris about the possibility of her working with Craig Snyder and defendant Roger Stone, who are partners in defendant IKON Holdings, Inc., another political consulting firm ... about the possibility of Triumph Communications’ assistance with work that IKON was doing for the government of Argentina.
These discussions lead to two contracts ... and provided that Triumph would act as a public relations consultant to "the Secretary of Intelligence of Argentina" as well as arrange various media events...

Miss Lolavar went to Argentina in August 2000 to assist de Santibañes with preparations for his testimony in Argentine congressional hearings inquiring into allegations that he and the Argentine intelligence agency, known as SIDE, were responsible for bribing various Argentine senators in exchange for political support. Morris and Stone assigned other tasks to Miss Lolavar while she was in Argentina. Among other acts, they instructed her to contact SIDE and obtain a list of journalists who accepted bribes from that organization in order to harm the credibility of those same journalists in reporting on a bribery scandal surrounding de Santibañes and President de la Rua, as well as requiring her to spread false information to the press concerning de la Rua’s political opponent, Dr. Carlos Menem. The charges and counter-charges related here are from the papers in the court file, as are the other facts.

A request that occasioned controversy between Miss Lolavar and the defendants was Morris and Stone’s request that she serve as an intermediary in an anonymous wire transfer of funds to an official in Israel. These funds were to be paid to secure intelligence files from the Israeli government to assist de la Rua’s political domestic disputes with Menem, and to imply a corrupt relationship between Menem and George W. Bush, who was then running against Albert Gore for the United States presidency. These files were to be altered by Miss Lolavar to appear to be SIDE documents.

When the defendants became concerned that this plot would be discovered and traced back to them, they ordered Miss Lolavar to orchestrate a press response to blame Vice President Gore for the dissemination of the documents, since it was known to them that the Gore campaign had been attempting to connect Menem with the Bush campaign.

[The Far Left]

402. Your post seems like a filibuster, Is DWS Corrupt or Not? nt

[L. Coyote]

403. Why would you ask that? That sounds like a Republican narrative.

Unless you want to say it without breaking the rules!

[The Far Left]

404. Let's not excuse corruption by blaming the messenger. nt

[L. Coyote]

406. Let's not accuse Dems of corruption. That's a Republican talking point.

Why are you working the Republican narrative here?

[The Far Left]

407. Pot calling kettle black... You act like you own the party.

[riversedge]

101. Yes, she has constrantly been bullied.

[bjobotts]

186. Your on a short list pal as most of us want her resignation.Take blinders offl look at facts

Besides her DNC failures she also sponsors pay Day Loan industry legislation...even to the point of making sure anything that might bother it doesn't get in our democratic platform...like short term loans at the Post Office. She's another corporatist DLC Dem who wants to cater to Wall street and the big banks for funding to the poitn of allowing lobbyists in to our conventions to see who they can bribe.
So why are you even posting this thread anyway? Get off the fainting couch and watch this manipulating player get promoted by the Clinton team. Awww she deserves it you'll say, which is just as obnoxious as claiming she is being bullied rather being called to account.

[CBHagman]

258. Have you taken a formal survey?

Seriously, who says "most of us" on DU want her resignation? Based on what?

[rickford66]

376. Maybe take a vote ?

[adigal]

349. Oh, stop. Rightful criticism is NOT BULLYING. Stop whining

She deserved to be fired. I'd be fired for this, so would you.

[babylonsister]

133. Hold your fire. Certain

factions in this country don't care if she broke rules or tried to break anyone not in line with their vision. But I agree with you ftr.

[XemaSab]

138. +1

[pnwmom]

204. Yes. The bad one of the handful was written by Brad Marshall, not DWS.

But everyone's been having fun hating on her all year.

[JaneyVee]

314. Bullying, really?

Even if she did some things some people dont agree with, people are acting as though she needs to be lynched in the streets. Here's a better idea: donate to her primary opponent. Dont vote for her. But this mouth foaming anger like some prosecutor at the salem witch trials is a bit grotesque

[Surya Gayatri]

322. Shameful, overt spectacle of the latent misogyny and sexism that lurks

just below the surface on this board.

If she were an AA, some of the worst offenders would be calling for a literal lynching, not just a figurative one.

[Laser102]

379. Agree!!!!!!

[7wo7rees]

401. Am I the only one tired of being bullied by Brave-?

[Little Star]

2. You're not the only one tired of it! I thought us Dems were better than this.

[OnDoutside]

7. Many of those bullying her aren't Dems, or are in barely a wet week.

[bravenak]

17. We are better. I don't think most Dems would behave like this but folks sometimes oretend to be dems

[elehhhhna]

270. And that suck s bad when they also run for office

Dem principles should appear somewhere other than in speeches.

[dlwickham]

112. You're assuming the DWS haters are Democrats

[fleabiscuit]

254. +1

[Surya Gayatri]

323. Boom! Mic drop!

[lark]

370. Why would you assume they aren't?

I'm 64 years old and have voted D in every election since I was eligible to vote. DWS's picture appears in the dictionary under DINO, aside from social issues, she's not a Dem at all, even donates to R's over Dem's in FL and refuses to help FL Dems in any way.

[bvar22]

381. How can someone who refused to endorse Democrats in Florida for vulnerable Republican seats...

...EVER wind up as head of the DNC. She should have been booted in 2008.

The fact that she wasn't raises alot of questions.

In 2008 Debbie Wasserman Schultz refused to endorse these 3 Democrats
who had won their Primaries and had a chance to win Republican seats:

Miami-Dade Democratic Party Chair Joe Garcia

Former Hialeah Democratic Mayor Raul Martinez

Democratic businesswoman Annette Taddeo

All three had won their local Democratic Primaries, and were challenging Hard Core Republican incumbents with whom Wasserman-Schultz had become cozy.
Not only did the head of the DCCC Red to Blue Program REFUSE to endorse these Democratic challengers,
but she appeared in person at at least one (possibly more) Campaign/Fundraiser for their Republican opponents.



FL-18, FL-21, FL-25: Wasserman Schultz Wants Dem Challengers to Lose
by: James L.
Sun Mar 09, 2008 at 7:15 PM EDT
<snip>

Sensing a shift in the political climate of the traditionally solid-GOP turf of the Miami area, Democrats have lined up three strong challengers -- Miami-Dade Democratic Party chair Joe Garcia, former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, and businesswoman Annette Taddeo to take on Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, respectively.

While there is an enormous sense of excitement and optimism surrounding these candidacies, some Democratic lawmakers, including Florida Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Kendrick Meek, are all too eager to kneecap these Democratic challengers right out of the starting gate in the spirit of "comity" and "bipartisan cooperation" with their Republican colleagues:

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

"At the end of the day, we need a member who isn't going to pull any punches, who isn't going to be hesitant," Wasserman Schultz said.

Now, you'd expect this kind of bullshit from a backbencher like Alcee Hastings, but you wouldn't expect this kind of behavior from the co-chair of the DCCC's Red to Blue program, which is the position that Wasserman Schultz currently holds. Apparently, Debbie did not get Rahm's memo about doing whatever it takes to win:

The national party, enthusiastic about the three Democratic challengers, has not yet selected Red to Blue participants. But Wasserman Schultz has already told the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that if any of the three make the cut, another Democrat should be assigned to the race.

http://www.swingstateproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1537

The bloggers also are furious with Rep. Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla.), who similarly refuses to endorse the Democratic challengers to the three Cuban American Republicans.

They are calling for Wasserman Schultz to step down from her leadership role at the DCCC. And they're not letting up, even after one Florida liberal blogger reported that the congresswoman seemed "frustrated" by the blogs and had asked to "please help get them off my back."

This prompted even harsher reaction from perhaps the most influential of the progressive political bloggers, Markos Moulitsas, a.k.a. Kos, founder of Daily Kos, who wrote on his blog Wednesday: "On so many fronts, the Republicans are standing in the way of progress, on Iraq, SCHIP, health care, fiscal responsibility, corruption, civil liberties, and so on. Those three south Florida Republicans are part of that problem. And she's (Wasserman-Schultz) going to be 'frustrated' that people demand she do her job?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/19/AR2008031903410_3.html

Here are Kos comments on the Wasserman-Schultz betrayal of the Democratic Party:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/03/20/480511/-DCCC-Says-Uproar-Over-DWS-Recusal-Much-Ado-About-Nothing




A lot of time has passed since 2008, but I don't take these kinds of betrayals lightly. Now I find that DWS has been PROMOTED from Chair of the Red to Blue Program
to Chair of the DNC. She must be making the "Centrist" Democratic Leadership VERY HAPPY if they are rewarding THIS kind of Party Treason.

bvar22
Cursed with a memory

[glennward]

116. Norman Solomon on now. He is NOT working for unity. He is still running to elect Bernie.

I really want to see some evidence that the DNC actually DID something to hinder Bernie's campaign. They let him off the hook for the many FEC violations that are on record; they let him off the hook for the unauthorized access to HRC contributor lists. They actually let him off the hook for the almost GOP-like trashing of the Democratic nominee. It is sickening what they are doing right now. People who worked hard for the party for years are being disrespected (not just DWS). I will be happy when this convention is over so I can get out and campaign for the Clinton/Kaine ticket. I am going to work even harder.

The least they can do is allow someone who IS actually a Democrat and has been for years working her buns off for the party to speak to the convention. Giver her a chance to apologize or make amends.

[dlwickham]

279. he was trashing Kaine yesterday

fuck Solomon and the horse he rode in on

[kestrel91316]

3. She's not being bullied. She's being critiqued and criticized.

If she can't take the heat she should get out of the kitchen.

Wait.........

[bravenak]

22. She is already leaving the kitchen. Why kick her in the back on the way out?

[napi21]

27. 'Cause it makes ME feel better. You know, pay back and all that. n/t

[bravenak]

56. Then it will simply come back around to you again, which is sad

[JustAnotherGen]

162. It all comes full circle on election night

When we are all cheering Madame President!

[bravenak]

165. Yep. I will be having a Fine Time, unlike some people

[fleabiscuit]

257. +1

[uponit7771]

288. Not when some of the critique is made up bullshit.... that's bullying

[chillfactor]

4. I agree...

there have been umpteen threads about her.....geez....stop already.

[bravenak]

20. Thank you

[AgadorSparticus]

316. +1,000

[Warren Stupidity]

5. Yes

[BlueCaliDem]

55. Yeah, no surprise there, Warren. eom

[runaway hero]

131. Hey I hope the same thing happens to Reince

So you can say he should stay in his job too


Right...?

[BlueCaliDem]

136. But it ain't gonna. Why? Because this was a concerted effort in favor of Repubs, that's why.

And where did I say DWS should retain her DNC position?

Put up or...well, you know.

[runaway hero]

169. of course it was

But that does not mean the DNC shouldn't do better.

[BlueCaliDem]

188. The DNC will never do good enough with people who dislike the Democratic Party no matter

what. There'll always be something to gripe about by the fringes of either major political Party because these people actually believe that to err isn't human at all.

But I'll be damned if I'm going to be Putin's puppet and condemn good Democrats so DumbTrump can win the White House for his Russian master by default. How about you, runaway hero?

[fleabiscuit]

259. +1

[Surya Gayatri]

324. SO.SPOT.ON. More inconvenient truth. The worst bullies and harassers are NO Democrats.

REAL Dems don't act like that.

[BlueCaliDem]

337. Exactly, Surya. This angry mob booing and acting their shoe-size is a new phenomenon that I haven't

seen before. Whoever they are, they aren't Democrats - because real Democrats don't boo and hiss at Democrats. Period. And when you hear that they'd rather vote for Jill Stein or DumbTrump than Hillary Clinton, well, they show their true faces. NO Democrat worth their salt would ever even think of voting Stein or DumbTrump.

[Surya Gayatri]

341. Did you see her appearance in front of the Florida delegation this morning?

Lots of cheers for her, of course, but there was a VERY vocal core of non-Dem infiltrators (frustrated Greens? enraged Libertarians? bitter Berners?) who shat all over her brief address. Yelling insults over the cheers, screaming over her mic, etc.

These are NOT loyal Dems. Sowing dissent and disruption--after the fact. She's resigned, FFS. What the f__k more do they want?

Snakes in the political swamp.

[BlueCaliDem]

346. I did! I was appalled. That's not how Democrats behave. Teabaggers? Yes. Fringies who never stood

for anything other than the right to protest (but never peaceably)? Check. But Democrats? Hell no. Democrats know when an election is over and to get behind the winner. We've been doing it for decades, FFS.

The main objective of these "snakes in the political swamp" is to sow discord and disunity and project as much to the world. These people are NOT our allies in our quest to rid our gov't of Republicans and Putin-puppets.

[Surya Gayatri]

348. I'm a peaceful person and a political pacifist...but, I swear I'd enjoy

decking these asshats and beating them bloody. (or, doing even worse things that I dare not mention! LOL!)

[BlueCaliDem]

357. Hahaha! I completely understand where you're coming from, Surya. Trust me. What really gets me is,

these protesters aren't helping Democrats. They're helping Republicans, even if they don't see it that way. They're giving comfort to our political enemies. That's why I have a hard time believing they've ever been Democrats.

[Surya Gayatri]

359. I think a certain percentage of them know perfectly well what they're doing.

They've been dispatched to Philly for just this purpose.

These are the astroturf, rodent-copulating faux Dems who only registered to vote for Sanders.

Now that their hero has endorsed the winner, they just want to stir as much shit as possible and damage her even further.

[BlueCaliDem]

361. I believe you're right, Surya. These rodent-copulating faux Dems would rather confront non-violent,

non-confrontational Democrats than violent and very confrontational Teapublicans with guns - which tells me all I need to know about them.

I don't believe this small group of extremely loud protesters are Sanders supporters as much as they are Hillary-haters. Sanders has already endorsed Hillary, and the vast majority of his supporters are uniting behind her in order to defeat DumbTrump.

The rodent-copulators protesting at the Democratic Convention are hiding behind and using Sanders' name to attack Democrats and Hillary Clinton for whatever real reasons they hold (paid trolling, hoping to weaken the Democratic nominee for the G.E., hoping for a Trump presidency to "teach us all a lesson", etc). It just irks me that M$M are calling them Democrats when they're anything but.

[Surya Gayatri]

363. Short and sweet! ^^^

I don't believe this small group of extremely loud protesters are Sanders supporters as much as they are Hillary-haters.

¡Y basta!

[sheshe2]

225. Why in the world would a Democrat care what happens to Reince?

Reinced out is not a Democrats concern other than to LOL.

Oy!

[kacekwl]

266. Don't care about Reince

Not in a party I care about.

[Loki Liesmith]

6. If bullying her wins us an election I don't care

She's a politician. She knows how the game is played.

[stopbush]

32. And if it costs us the election?

[BlueCaliDem]

60. *crickets*

Or could it be...mission accomplished?

[Loki Liesmith]

71. Taste like potato chips

And are an excellent source of protein.

[Loki Liesmith]

69. Then I'd oppose it.

But it won't. She's very expendable.

[stopbush]

77. And how does one undo something after the fact?

[baldguy]

171. Good Democrats are not expendable.

[Ikonoklast]

356. DWS stabbed actual Florida Democrats running for office in the back.

She didn't want to alienate her Republican pals.


She is what is wrong with the Democratic Party.

[Chakab]

375. You know how many fucking elections that she's already cost the party with her incompetence?

You should be more upset about that the email dump.

[bjobotts]

191. Calling one to account is not bullying. She has a hard time justifying her actions.

Now you got her playing the victim.

[pnwmom]

207. Brad Marshall sent the nasty email. What did DSW do, specifically?

[pnwmom]

205. Bullying her can't possibly help us win the election. Hillary won by 4 million votes.

Please stop re-fighting the primary.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. no, "bullied" is the woman in FL facing 10 years in prison for growing her own medical marijuana.

who was "followed home from the hydroponics store" by cops- no previous criminal record, causing no trouble in public, not a threat to safety. A card-carrying medical marijuana patient, just moved from Maine.

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-martin-county/stuart/stuart-woman-faces-10-years-in-prison-in-medical-marijuana-case

And if DWS hadn't allied herself with Sheldon Adelson to kill medical marijuana reform in 2014 (note to jury: a factual statement), the taxpayers of FL might have better things to do with their money than harass sick people over some plants in their basement.

[sunnystarr]

192. +++++++++++++++++++++ (nt)

[cyberpunk]

333. ++

[rateyes]

9. She wasn't bullied. She was the one with the power.

[Her Sister]

66. No maybe you thought it was normal behavior, but it wasn't normal! T'was bullying!

[PassingFair]

115. She was only following orders.

Someone has to take the fall. I'm sure she has been, or will be, sufficiently compensated.

[sheshe2]

155. "Following Orders"

Sly subtle swipe at our Presumptive Candidate on a Democratic board. We see you.

[mcar]

183. Not so subtle, IMO

Sad to see here.

[PassingFair]

244. Ohhhh.

I'm skeert!

[Marr]

392. God, turn down your TakeOffensometer. /nt

[chwaliszewski]

163. Watch out, PassingFair.

They're on to you.

[BlueCaliDem]

176. Yeah. We are.

[annavictorious]

10. Rapey Julian wanted the tribalist female out.

And now she's out. Well done, progressives!

[Loki]

15. So you see that connection too.

Good to know I'm not the only one.

[Warren DeMontague]

36. Yeah, I'm Jewish, too- but I dont think Granny belongs in prison for eating a pot brownie.

.........so how does that work?


http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/on-medical-marijuana-debbie-wasserman-schultz-sounds-like-a-republican-6544176

[annavictorious]

74. It didn't say anything in the story anyone going prison for pot.

So I really don't know what you're talking about.

Great alarmist headline though!

[Warren DeMontague]

91. She helped kill medical marijuana reform in FL in 2014.

What do you think the real-world implications of that are, legislatively?

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-martin-county/stuart/stuart-woman-faces-10-years-in-prison-in-medical-marijuana-case

[annavictorious]

105. You do the research dear. I don't feed...um...what's the word?

[Warren DeMontague]

232. you tell me.

I've been a part of this community for 12 years, now, so I'm sure I've heard it all.

also, I already did the "research". That was what the link was for. This woman is a 53 year old medical marijuana patient from Maine, recently moved to florida, no criminal record, never been in trouble with the law, was followed home from a hydroponics store by cops who then searched her house and found pot plants.

http://www.wptv.com/news/region-martin-county/stuart/stuart-woman-faces-10-years-in-prison-in-medical-marijuana-case

This was in 2014, the same year DWS allied herself with Sheldon Adelson's anti-drug org to kill measure 2 in Florida.

This woman is now facing 10 years in prison. 10 years! How the fuck is society served by this? "well, she broke the law"- and one either has to believe that she moved to Florida, not knowing anyone, with the intent to become a marijuana kingpin, OR she moved down south- as people are wont to do- because she's getting older and has health problems (obviously, medical marijuana patient, remember?)..

He says Kirouac, who moved here from Maine, had a recommendation from her doctor there to use cannabis - and that should be honored here.

"People like Bridgit Kirouac who are 50-years-old are the majority of my clients around this state," Minardi says. "We're not talking about kids, we're not talking about drug dealers, we're talking about people who are legitimately using cannabis for medical reasons."

***

"The reason that I was growing my own medicine was because I didn't know anybody here," she says. "I live my whole life doing everything that I can to avoid any more pain than I already have."

If Debbie Wasserman Schultz had done the right thing in 2014, this woman might not be facing prosecution. And, again, 10 years in prison.

There's your research.

[ornotna]

275. Troll

I believe the word is troll.
Sad what is allowed to stand as a legitimate post.

[Warren DeMontague]

276. and, isnt that nice?

Yeah. I know. 12 years, I've been here. Meh.

[Warren DeMontague]

410. oh, the irony.

[Loki]

11. Yes I am, and I'm getting pissed.

There is something very ugly going on and when you start making the connection between Assange, Putin, Trump and the wiki-leaks of the DNC emails, it is starting to stink like a rotting corpse. Now Joy Reid of MSNBC has started seeing something and guess what:

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757092238400913408 Wikileaks is threatening her with "lawyers". Some more history going on here also: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028041899

Isn't it interesting that DWS is Jewish and they are accusing her of being anti Jewish because Bernie is of that same religious group. I'm much more concerned about what is beginning to appear to be Putin/Russian interference in our elections and Trump's extreme praise/hero worship of a dictator. I've never subscribed to conspiracy theories, but there seems to be more here than a lot of people are willing to look at.

[runaway hero]

14. They were attacking his atheism

Come on.

[treestar]

342. They were not, they were discussing it

in relation to its impact on voters. How ridiculous. You think then no one should discuss things such as this at all? Never even mention it? We've discussed troubles our female nominee might have. No POTUS has been an above the board atheist and we know how religious America is.

Not every discussion is an attack. This is not bothering Bernie, he called it a distraction.

[bravenak]

23. Very interesting

I really do think this is to cover up for assange's bullshit. I see he deleted his tweet but we know what he thinks about a conspiracy against him and who he thinks is involved.

[melman]

87. OMG

The nerve.

[bravenak]

94. Assange really does have a Bunch of nerve with his antisemetic conspiracy Theories

[PufPuf23]

219. Amazing who one can find posting anti-semetic statements on the internet eom.

[bravenak]

223. Amazing how he keeps coming up with new shit to say about 'bankers' and shit constantly

conspiring against hisself

[progressoid]

315. snort.

[annavictorious]

93. The email was between two DNC employees.

They came up with a terrible talking point about Sanders being too secular. The talking point was never used. DWS had nothing to do with the emails. She didn't write them. She didn't receive them. She just took the fall for them.

Assange got what he wanted: to stir the shit between the Sanders and Clinton factions in order to damage the convention and possibly the election. Taking down an uppity Jewish woman was just an added bonus.

[kstewart33]

189. Bingo. nt

[fleabiscuit]

277. Nailed it. nt

[Squinch]

281. Exactly. It's complete bullshit. Thanks for pointing this out.

[uponit7771]

289. +1

[Surya Gayatri]

326. Got it in one.

[treestar]

343. This ^^^

Imagine the talking points Republicans discussed but never used! Because someone higher up knew they shouldn't be!

[JustAnotherGen]

164. Trump can be compromised

He's no good.

[runaway hero]

12. Why?

We replaced her with a more qualified WOC.


She deserves this. In the private sector, people are fired for less.

[annavictorious]

123. We didn't replace her.

Assange pushed DWS out and DB stepped up and in to fill the vacuum.

Someone way outside the party set it in motion. And so many people who were played, are applauding.

[runaway hero]

125. Please

Making fun of someone religion is something you're taught not to do at age 6.


Did we just not go through and comdemn Trump for an entire week of fighting the pope for the same reason? Consistency folks!

[jalan48]

13. Don't worry she'll be the victim soon.

[insta8er]

26. Actually, if I look at the sentiment of this post...this is actually the victimisation of

her.

[jalan48]

53. It's a process for sure. This is just one step.

[Hortensis]

16. No, you're not. I don't like cynical scapegoating

either, no matter how effective it might be or who's behind it. But asking angry people who just want someone to blame to at least memorize a bunch of names and details isn't good technique.

[bravenak]

24. I feel you.

I'm not a big fan but this is out of proportion

[insta8er]

30. Wow....LOL

[MrScorpio]

18. Agreed

Bullying is beneath us.

[bravenak]

28. I hope we can chill, this is way too much

[AgadorSparticus]

19. yes. enough already.

[TeeYiYi]

21. You might be...

...but I hear you about the internet. Social media is scary. I would HATE to find myself on their shitlist.

TYY

[bravenak]

29. Oh my being the internet's whipping boy is horrible.

[TeeYiYi]

108. Social media...

...is like a fascinating murmuration of starlings, moving together in tight formation...



...until they lock onto you and morph into a swarm of angry bees or hornets...



TYY

[bravenak]

118. Yep. Real shit

Once they start with a person, they latch on like a rabid animal

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. Politics is a blood sport.

It's part of the game.

[bravenak]

33. That's the 'Game of Thrones' that you describe.

It's not 'you win or you die' in our nation. That's Planetos.

[TheCowsCameHome]

52. Yeah, whatever it is you're talking about.

[misterhighwasted]

31. Because they are sick. Not One of the emails was sent by DWS.

I hope If Sanders is the fair man he claoms to be, he assosts.in bringing down Trump and the Wiki connection to Russia.
As a Senator he should well know that this is foreign interferance in an election. Spying, hacking, stealing data and timing the leak before the Dem Convention was done to to gain influence in a US election.
Sanders knows the serious implications of this action.
I want to see him step forward & do something with that.

If not for the Leaks the reporting would be about Trump's foreign ties. I.e. Manafort, Ukraine, Putin, Russia, NATO...
Wiki timed the leak for a reason.

[bravenak]

37. Assange is cool with Trump

I just never expected to see Democrats helping Trump win.

[fleabiscuit]

280. 'Democrats' in a false sense only. nt

[bravenak]

282. Oops. I meant, "Democrats"

[fleabiscuit]

287. +1

[femmocrat]

34. I just hope it doesn't continue into tomorrow.

I think Hillary handled it just fine and now it is time to move on. Let's begin the convention making a fresh start. I think Bernie's speech tomorrow night will go a long way toward cooling down some of the hotter heads. We have to have a positive, upbeat convention and not let this internal party matter dominate the news.

I just wonder if the general public is paying much attention to it. Anyone know?

[bravenak]

48. Nobody I know seems to care around here except republicans

But I dont want it to overshadow our party.

[onecaliberal]

35. Maybe she should have remained impartial and not inserted herself. She's being called out for

Not being impartial. She is embarrassing our candidate.

[bravenak]

43. Were emails written by her or something? I had no idea. Link to the email where she is partial?

I saw nothing of the kind with her name on it.

[BlueCaliDem]

72. Oops. eom

[bravenak]

73. Right?

[BlueCaliDem]

113. Some people are so willing, and so quick, to smear a Democrat on a Democratic Party supporting site

because of their personal and extreme dislike of that Democrat without asking themselves WHY that anti-American third-party site never, ever hacked the RNC. This should outrage all Americans, not have them jump on the carcass of one of our own.

Evidence is surfacing that Putin is behind this hacking and leaks, having completely "weaponized" Wikileaks in order to get his buddy, DumbTrump, into the White House so that Moscow can run the U.S. - and we're supposed to be a-ok with that??

In the Defense One article, entitled, "How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election of an American President", it makes the case that Putin is behind this:

Here’s the timeline: On June 14, cybersecurity company CrowdStrike, under contract with the DNC, announced in a blog post that two separate Russian intelligence groups had gained access to the DNC network. One group, FANCY BEAR or APT 28, gained access in April. The other, COZY BEAR, (also called Cozy Duke and APT 29) first breached the network in the summer of 2015.

Cybersecurity company FireEye first discovered APT 29 in 2014 and was quick to point out a clear Kremlin connection. “We suspect the Russian government sponsors the group because of the organizations it targets and the data it steals. Additionally, APT 29 appeared to cease operations on Russian holidays, and their work hours seem to align with the UTC +3 time zone, which contains cities such as Moscow and St. Petersburg,” they wrote in their report on the group. Other U.S. officials have said that the group looks like it has sponsorship from the Russian government due in large part to the level of sophistication behind the group’s attacks.

It’s the same group that hit the State Department, the White House, and the civilian email of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The group’s modus operandi (a spearphishing attack that uploads a distinctive remote access tool on the target’s computer) is well known to cyber-security researchers.
http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/

Putin has never forgiven President Obama for uniting Europe against him and hurting him because of his attempts to annex Ukraine. This is payback.

[bravenak]

137. Yep, but we have had Putin lovers here for tears and they ALWAYS do this shit

[NWCorona]

211. A agree with the op that some are taking glee in kicking DWS when she's down

But DWS should have resigned when it was found that the Russians were in the servers for over a year.

[BlueCaliDem]

217. More bullshit. The State Department, the White House, and the e-mails of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

were all hacked by the same Putin-backed hacker group. Should Secretary John Kerry have resigned? How about President Obama? Or how about General Joseph F. Dunford, Jr.?

[onecaliberal]

249. They're NOT THE DNC who is supposed to help ALL Dems.

Do you have. Problem with comprehension or do you always throw out nonsense arguments when you don't have a good answer?

[onecaliberal]

246. The only right thing is you dismiss wrong doing because it benefited your preferred candidate

Otherwise it would t be right. #Blocked

[bravenak]

248. Gossiping about candidates is not wrongdoing

Lol

[onecaliberal]

245. She's the head of the DNC. Where does the buck stop?

Not to mention the record number of democratic races we lost with her in charge.

[bravenak]

247. So nothing to do with her.

[uponit7771]

290. Where she knows there's a buck that needs to be stopped, if you know different then please source...

... thx in advance

[Duckhunter935]

76. Yes

In one she is quoted "Bernie will not be President" she was not impartial and she should be gone today. Now she is making herself the story and it will be her fault if she gets booed. She could easily avoid that.

[sheshe2]

167. link?

the entire link, or it never happened.

[onecaliberal]

251. :

[mia]

124. So DWS had all the power?

She did whatever she did with the blessing of others who shall not be named.

[George II]

220. Any REAL evidence that she was not impartial? That accusation started even before....

.....anyone declared their candidacy, along with dozens of other unfounded and unproven CTs against a candidate.

[coco77]

38. Were/Are we tired of..

DWS bullying Bernie Sanders and sending moles all over the place to lie about him?YES.

[bravenak]

45. The primary is over

[coco77]

54. And finally,finally,finally are..

the lies of DWS that many chose to ignore, many need to get this out of their systems so don't expect people to shut up. Everyone will unify.

[bravenak]

59. The emails were not even HERS!!!!

[coco77]

63. The lies were..

[bravenak]

78. Oh please! Pfffttt!!!!

[coco77]

90. If it makes you feel better..

I won't post anymore... on this particular subject..

I will go to some other places to have a discussion. Feel better now?

[bravenak]

95. Have fun

[coco77]

99. I want to thank you..

[bravenak]

100. No need

[uponit7771]

291. Please source lies related to the emails? tia

[bravenak]

46. Oh yes, after all these centuries of oppression...

[giftedgirl77]

127. Oppression & ppl using the evil race card on them.

[bravenak]

129. I bet those cards give them serious papercuts when we whip them out

[giftedgirl77]

140. Lol, probably how they got all those battle scars

[MohRokTah]

41. I've seen shit tons of misogynistic crap thrown at her.

You should see the anti-semitic tweets at her that are out there!

[bravenak]

50. It is scary how they immediately start trashing her Jewishness and her femaleness.

They would not treat a man that way ever.

[MohRokTah]

67. The EXTREME LEFT was far more viscious and anti-semitic to her than the extreme right, too! eom

[bravenak]

83. Definately. They are like twins.

[sheshe2]

179. Wow, they are trashing her for her Jewishness...

All the while complaining about an email on BS being Jewish. No one has posted the full link or even partial link that I have seen, just quoted it.

Jaysus! For real? You can't make this shit up!

How do you spell hypocrite?

[bravenak]

181. Assange

That's how we spell hypocrite today. Fuck him.

[Loki]

202. Amen!

[SQUEE]

338. Did you really just go there?

Moving on doesn't mean we forgot.

[rjsquirrel]

42. With you

Classic scapegoating witch hunt.

[wyldwolf]

44. scapegoat

[Starry Messenger]

47. No.

I'm hardly her biggest fan at all, but lumping this all on her has been ridic.

[bravenak]

61. Way over the top

[glowing]

49. No, she's such a DINO... When she was head of FL party,

She campaigned and endorsed
Republicans... She's been awful
For years... She only has remained because the area was made for her with her constituent block.

[sheshe2]

182. Do you have links to all that? TIA

[dflprincess]

235. Here you go

This is from March 9, 2008. I didn't find any reference to whether or not she was state party chair at the time. I do know that in Minnesota, DFL rules wouldn't let a person be a precinct chair after this kind of behavior and there's no way you'd get elected to the DNC.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24478039.html

[div class = "excerpt"]
Democrats torn between party, GOP friends

Democratic party leaders have tapped Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz to raise money and coach candidates in a high-stakes, aggressive bid to expand the Democratic majority in the House of Representatives.

But as three Miami Democrats look to unseat three of her South Florida Republican colleagues, Wasserman Schultz is staying on the sidelines. So is Rep. Kendrick Meek, a Miami Democrat and loyal ally to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

That wasn't the case just two years ago when the pair flouted a long-standing Florida delegation agreement to not campaign against colleagues and vigorously backed Ron Klein in his winning bid to oust veteran Republican Rep. Clay Shaw.

This time around, Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their relationships with the Republican incumbents, Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart and his brother Mario, and Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, leave them little choice but to sit out the three races.

The decision comes as Democrats believe they have their best shot in years to defeat at least one of the Cuban-American incumbents with a roster of Democrats that include former Hialeah Mayor Raul Martinez, outgoing Miami-Dade Democratic party chair Joe Garcia and businesswoman Annette Taddeo.

But Wasserman Schultz and Meek say their ties to the three Republicans are personal as well as professional: Both served in the state Legislature with Mario Diaz-Balart and say they work in concert with all three on South Florida issues.

[sheshe2]

252. I don't see where the article shows

where she campaigned and endorsed Republicans. They were friends, kinda like Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Scalia. That makes me shiver. Yet I love her for all she has stood for. Different types of people can be friends without agreeing to their opinions. She has been there for all of us.

Hell, I had GOPers in my family, I loved them and they loved me. Enough said.

49. No, she's such a DINO... When she was head of FL party,


She campaigned and endorsed
Republicans... She's been awful
For years... She only has remained because the area was made for her with her constituent block.

[dflprincess]

264. Not campaigning for the Democratic candidates and "sitting it out"

was the tacit endorsement of the Republicans.

Ginsburg may have been friends with Scalia, but she didn't hesitate to disagree with his opinons. DWS should have done the same and worked for a Democratic majority in the House - let her good friends know it was "just politics".

She had no business every being chair of the DNC if she wasn't willing to put winning elections at the top of her priority list.

[sheshe2]

269. She was the DNC chair when she was the Florida State Chair?

Don't bother answering. There has been so much shit stirring on DU the past few days.

There are people here that are not here for good reasons. They went away for a few weeks and they are back. Tag teams. They come in numbers. Their intent, tear Democrats apart. Division. I know where they come from, so easy to follow them back..............to............

I don't agree with you, yet I thank you for being civil, dfl.

Thanks

[dflprincess]

273. Did I say she was chair of the DNC while Florida state chair?

No, no I did not. I said she should never have been DNC chair after tacitly supporting Republicans for Congress rather than working for a Democratic majority.

And, while I have not been posting much, I never went away and I am not tag teaming with anyone as you implied.

I also am still in good standing with the DFL and continue to hold party office something DWS would not have been allowed to do in Minnesota with her support of Republicans. She was the one trying to tear Democrats apart, not just in Florida in 2008, but this past year as well.

[glowing]

317. Thank you for replying... I had had written a post and then by accident, hit the x box on DU and

lost the whole thing...

We have some major issues in FL with our Democratic Party Elites choosing time and time again to support corporate friendly, nearly Republican like, candidates, and using dirty, nasty tactics to keep "outsiders" out. Maybe FL is like a test state for the National Party at large? Or maybe Debbie ran the National Party as she did because she only knows FL politics.

Seriously, in 2010, after a major banking crash, the Dem elites chose to back Alex Sink, who worked for Bank of America. People were hemorrhaging jobs and their homes and in FL the real estate market and the scandalous loans created a nightmare that we still haven't' escaped. (plus it was a mid-term election and the Tea Party was being whipped into a frenzy).

Also, in that same year, Charlie Crist wanted to move to the Senate, but he hugged Obama. So, he went I and the Dem party tried to get Meek to drop out of the election (needless to say, we got the man-child Rubio because the vote was split). AND then, the party chose to back him when he changed his party affiliation to Dem and run for Gov again in another mid-term election where Dems were annihilated. (It's not like Republicans were going to stop being Republican for the "traitor" Crist). AND many Democratic supporters felt absolutely ill having to work to try and elect someone who changed parties to favor himself mainly... He gave us right wing supreme court nominees and a slew of nasty legislation... Why? We had no other Democratic candidates? (BTW, he's running for the House or Reps now with full "elite" backing). And Patrick Murphy is their "horse" choice for senate. He started out Republican as well. Just another Daddy wealthy elite who bought his way into the party. Goldman Sachs is his top contributor. AND they call Alan Grayson a crook... LOL. ( I hope he wins, he will dismantle Rubio if he can get past Murphy and the Dem Party picking favorites again.)

This state needs to desperately acknowledge climate change and begin the work of trying to shore up salt water encroachment, prepare for storms... Under Rick Scott the environment has really taken a beating... AND this jerk doesn't even acknowledge it exists. Women have to wait to get an abortion for 24hrs now. Right to shoot anyone. Shitty paying jobs without expanded medicaid opt in. Refused the Federal funding for the fast train between Tampa and Orlando (that would probably be in operation by now and providing good jobs, solar industry growth, and easier passage between Tampa and Orlando, allowing people who lived in either city to easily work in one or the other, or to play in one or the other without 2 or 3 hrs of traffic (30 mins on a train sounds so much better than driving that route). NOT to mention what he has done to teachers and other service types of jobs like police and their pensions/ pay. He is such an asshole.. AND yet, the elites felt that Alex Sink and Charlie Crist would be the candidates that would excite the base or turn out more votes than the Republicans could strip and flip?

[bullsnarfle]

360. Thank you!!!

It is obvious that these "poor poor Debbie" whiners do not live in Florida, have not been subjected to her crap over and over and over, she really effed this state up to a fair-thee-well. I hope Tim Canova kicks her ass to Pluto.

The only thing I have left to say regarding her ignominious (and way overdue) ouster is GOOD RIDDANCE.

[glowing]

385. I guess I don't need proof when I've lived the damage of volunteering

With GOTV efforts year after year... They disenfranchise any true progressive Demciratic voice, and then ask us to help because Republicans truly are so much more awful in this state...

And again, if you only have a Republican and a Drmocrat trying to run on a republican-lite center trail, it's nearly impossible to shift the mid-term electorate into the voting booths. People need clear choices in differences. And do you know how strane it feels to be a progressive trying to phone bank or knock on doors for these "elite choices"?

Like I said, so many have thrown up their hands and refuse to continue with the FL Dems... Debbie was just more disasterous than her previous chairs in "picking" candidates to run.

[dflprincess]

408. Thank you this is interesting information

it's always hard to know just what's going on in the inner workings of the party in another state.

[DrDan]

51. agree - has been tiring for quite some time

the DU-cheering today has been ott

[sufrommich]

57. Donna Brazile will be their next target. Watch for the ugliness

directed at her. I personally hope Hillary picks Brazile as a permanent replacement.

[bravenak]

70. I hope she picks her too. Donna is strong and will not put up with bullshit

[Blue Idaho]

107. I'm a big big fan of Donna.

I wish her well! To be honest I've never been a big DWS fan but the kind of character assassination going on around here is jaw dropping. Two staffers come up with a really terrible idea questioning Sanders faith so what do people around here do? They attack DWS faith.

Pathetic.

[bravenak]

121. Yep, this is very sad for us

Donna will do great. I hope Debbie gets some peace after this.

[Her Sister]

58. We've known for months DNC server was hacked. Wikileaks sat on emails all this time to release few d

Al Giordano
?@AlGiordano Al Giordano Retweeted Ana Navarro
This from a GOP (McCain, Jeb Bush) surrogate now anti-Trump. Sees through the game while others willfully dumb down.



Ana Navarro
We've known for months DNC server was hacked. Wikileaks sat on emails all this time to release few days before Convo for max effect. #Drama

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/757314854290063365

It all stinks! From harassing & bullying DWS to Wikipedia's political agenda...etc.
NOT COOL!

[bravenak]

80. Yep. This shit is obvious as hell

[AgadorSparticus]

96. the timing is suspicious, isn't it? so obvious.....

[Duckhunter935]

61. Lol, ok

[MariaThinks]

64. yes - but she needs to leave and we need to move forward and beat trump

[bravenak]

86. She is already leaving

[JoePhilly]

65. They'll have a new outrage in a few days to replace this one.

[bravenak]

82. True that

[Surya Gayatri]

329. No shit...disrupting and destroying unity. These are expert rodent-copulators.

[Akoto]

68. I do think people could have some class about the resignation, like Clinton herself. n/t

[bravenak]

79. Me too

[mia]

75. I feel sorry for her. How bullying works: projection and scapegoating.

Bullying is a form of scapegoating and projection. We know that scapegoating is a hostile socio-psychological discrediting operation in which people move blame and responsibility away from themselves and towards a target person or group. It is also a practice were angry feelings and inappropriate accusation are placed on others. Quite understandably, the target feels persecuted and receives misplaced vilification, blame and criticism; and the victim is likely to suffer rejection from those who the perpetrator seeks to influence and again, an increasing feeling of isolation. We live in a society where bullying has become increasingly acceptable, and certainly, as form of doing politics....

Scapegoating has a wide range of focus: from “approved” enemies of very large groups of people down to the scapegoating of individuals by other individuals. The scapegoater’s target always experiences a terrible sense of being personally edited and re-written, with the inadequacies of the bully inserted into public accounts of their character, isolation, ostracism, exclusion and sometimes, expulsion and elimination. The sense of isolation is often heightened by other people’s reluctance to become involved in challenging bullies, usually because of a bystander’s own discomfort and fear of reprisal....

Bullying becomes obvious when you scrutinise who is actually doing the attacking on a personal level. Debate and political criticism are one thing: personal commentaries, character assassinations, attacks, threats, abuse and harassment are bullying. I have seen that quite often, bullying tactics include manipulating people’s perceptions to portray themselves as the injured party, with their target being the villain. However, again, scrutiny of who is actually instigating and doing the personal attacking will reveal the real bully or bullies.

Bullies show a complete lack of remorse for the damage they are intending to inflict on their target.Victim-blame narratives aside, it’s never wise to ignore bullying; bullies use provocation to elicit a response from their target and if you ignore it the provocation will simply get worse. That is the nature of bullying. Ignoring a bully actually gives him/her permission to continue bullying. Ignoring a bully sends the signal that it is acceptable to bully that person....

https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/how-bullying-works-projection-and-scapegoating/

[NorthCarolina]

81. She is up for re-election and some want her to lose to Canova.

Who can blame them?

[bravenak]

84. Wont happen. Just like I want Al Giordano for senate but I have no control over that.

Her constituents love her.

[NorthCarolina]

103. I'm sure they do, but I guess we'll see. -nt-

[billhicks76]

85. Yes You're The Only One

It's sad when people don't have the experience in life to smell a rat.

[bravenak]

92. Obviously not the only one. Since the thread is filled with people agreeing with me.

[billhicks76]

174. Blinded By Affiliation

Just like Bush supporters refused to implicate him even with a mountain of evidence in their face. Just like a family member cannot see the harm their child is doing. It's called bias. The anti-DWS doesn't have bias because unlike the bs you make ingested we are democrats and go in hoping for the best until facts prove something different. Hillary just named Debbie honorary chair of her campaign. Kinda like Bush giving Rummy or Tenet the Medal of Honor...simple PR damage control. I hoped we were above that.

[fleabiscuit]

285. "Bias" also applies to party affiliation. Some have it more than others.

Taking chunks out of a party doesn't enhance positive "bias." At all.

[TexasBushwhacker]

242. Plus 1

Not only is DWS crooked, she stank at her job. She should have stepped down after the horrible 2014 midterms.

[Scurrilous]

88. Behold the pile-on:

Silent thread for DWS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028043829

Bye, bye, Debbie.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028043656

[brer cat]

89. I'm with you, bravenak.

There are too many here demanding blood. It is childish and vindictive, and not helpful to the party, but then the main ones building the guillotine are the ones who still seem to believe a little bird is going to produce a miracle at the convention and give everyone a unicorn of their very own.

[bravenak]

97. She is already resigning at the end of the week. I have no idea what more they want?

[glennward]

144. Oh, I do. They want Hillary to step down and crown Bernie. nt

[bravenak]

146. What a stupid idea

[kstewart33]

201. Yep.

I'd wager that most of this piling on DWS has to do with Bernie losing the nomination. It's an opportunity to let off a lot of steam from the sting of defeat within DU's new policies, and that's understandable.

But DWS does not deserve this, IMO. An awful lot of accusations and very little actual evidence to make the case.

[fleabiscuit]

286. Probably a fair assessment. eom

[Surya Gayatri]

330. Clear-eyed, fair assessment. Well said.

[Uponthegears]

98. I agree this serves no constructive purpose

and has nothing to do with any single person.

How about this:

1. Hillary's primary supporters quit acting like the DNC did not assist Secretary Clinton from the get go;

2. Bernie's primary supporters quit acting like they didn't know that the DNC would support/was supporting Secretary Clinton from the get go

We all need to quit acting like we had no idea that national committees work this way. This denial on one side and faux outrage on the other is just disingenuous

I have supported Bernie from Day 1 and I knew it from Day 1. Bernie just repeated it this morning.

Why in God's name are we still talking about it?

UNITE.

[bravenak]

104. This is how parties work

They support the person who they think will be best for the PARTY. If course they supported a long term member more than a short term member, it was in their best interest to choose the person who said nice things about them. That's simply how shit works!!!

[Uponthegears]

160. EXACTLY

[LisaM]

102. No, you're not the only one. n/t

[Android3.14]

106. You disagreed with her on policy?

[bravenak]

114. Well, yeah. My state legalized weed and I have no issue getting mines.

I do not appreciate the fact that people cannot get access to this live saving, stress relieving, pain reducing medicine that we take for granted in my state. Everybody smokes up here, even Republicans.

[Android3.14]

394. Suuuuuure, that's what I meant

[Omaha Steve]

109. DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz joins hands with GOP in assault on Elizabeth Warren’s consumer...

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/dnc_chair_debbie_wasserman_schultz_joins_hands_with_gop_in_assault_on_elizabeth_warrens_consumer_protection_agency/

DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a close ally of Hillary Clinton, is trying to gut regulations on loan sharks
BEN NORTON

TUESDAY, MAR 1, 2016 02:30 PM CST

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the chair of the Democratic National Committee, has joined the Republican assault on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren helped create the bureau in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis in order to protect Americans from the malicious practices of the financial industry — particularly banks, toxic mortgage lenders, debt collectors and payday loan companies.

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has created pending new regulations in order to protect Americans from payday loan sharks, companies that make enormous profits off of predatory lending, exploiting the poor and uneducated by advertising quick and convenient loans while downplaying the concomitant skyrocketing interest. The bureau hopes to rein in the industry.

Not if the DNC can stop it, however. For Wasserman Schultz has thrown her weight behind the Republican effort to sabotage the bureau’s proposed regulations of the out-of-control predatory lending.

FULL story at link.

[avaistheone1]

203. DWS was absolutely on the wrong side of the issue.

I think her stance on this one is realistic look at her character and it is seriously quite sinister.

[onecaliberal]

261. ^^That right the fuck there^^

Luckily for her, she put her finger in the scale for the right person.

[NastyRiffraff]

110. No you are not the only one

DWS said she would step aside after the convention, and some are STILL beating the dead horse. Nothing will satisfy them except burning her at the stake, or at least 50 lashes.

That's not to say I think she was good at her job, but really, let it go!. Enough!

[Bluenorthwest]

111. The thing about what comes around is that it goes around. That's the thing.

That's just how it goes. Dig a pit, fall in it. She's a political opponent of mine in many important areas, it's fun to see her slip on a banana peel of her own eating. Big, giant fun. It's all her fault. What you sow, you later reap.

[WIProgressive88]

117. I think the released emails show that some in the DNC did not conduct themselves properly during the

primaries under her leadership, but she did the right thing in resigning. I agree that it's certainly nothing worth tearing the party apart over, but I do think that there needs to be accountability for those who may have broken rules.

[greatauntoftriplets]

119. No, you're not.

[bravenak]

130. Good. Stressing me out

[Scuba]

120. Debbie's shortcomings aren't related to her gender, and sexist comments have no place here.

[bravenak]

128. I agree

[Fozzledick]

122. Damn! At first I thought I might have to actually agree with you for once.

I am indeed tired of the way Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has been bullying the progressive wing of the Democratic party.

But of course you didn't mean it that way, you just phrased it poorly enough to be read ambivalently.

And then the thread degenerated into the usual racist attacks against White civil rights advocates.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

[bravenak]

126. LOL

[DemocratSinceBirth]

132. Rightly or wrongly she has become a distraction and needed to go.

Rightly or wrongly she has become a distraction and needed to go. As John Kennedy said "life is unfair." That being said I don't see the need to kick her in the ass on the way out.

And let none of us forget the genesis of this brouhaha was Putin's minions leaking these e-mails on the eve of our Convention to embarrass the Democrats and help his pal Donald Trump.

[bravenak]

141. Oh for sure!

Having her here was a distraction, but I see no issue with giving her until the end of the week to clear out her desk and get things in order to leave the position. I am positive that they had that stuff for a long time. I remember other hinkey stuff going on this year with the dnc's databases so I expected something to happen. But the way people are going after her? I find this saddening.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

147. It is unseemly. She's gone. No need to kick a person when he or she is down!!!

Any way, the big story is Vladimir Putin having his toadies release these e-mails on the eve of the Democratic Convention to embarrass the Democrats and help his boy Donald Trump.

[bravenak]

149. I forgot that we had so many Putinistas here

I had thought they left

[DemocratSinceBirth]

185. Afraid not.

I don't know what they see in him.

Not only is he an oligarch but he is an oligarch who bullies his neighbors, censors his nation's press , and discriminates against out glbtq brothers and sisters.

[sheshe2]

271. Yet they hate oligarchs, or so they say.

[Surya Gayatri]

331. Not to mention that he assassinates his political opponents.

[uponit7771]

292. "... or wrongly..." = doesn't matter if she's involved just hold her responsible

[DemocratSinceBirth]

294. You are pushing me, bro, to say things I don't want to say...

The piling on is disturbing. Next thing you know they will want her to wear a hairshirt.

[uponit7771]

296. +1... I can always tell the folk who are NOT easily pulled into group think or pile on mentality...

... and usually not the M$M

[DemocratSinceBirth]

299. So sad.

All I can think is of King Herod demanding the head of John The Baptist on a platter.

[uponit7771]

300. Yeah, don't know what the real reason why the DWS hate... seems like another woman in power

... pulled down by mostly made up bullshit.

[Dawson Leery]

134. I am and I will support her over Tim Canova.

[bravenak]

150. Thank you very much

[stupidicus]

135. she should stay outta the kitchen

I'm sure some would rather suffer the insults, etc, than what her efforts have resulted in.

need a payday loan?

The outrage is justified and serves to offset the use Tramp will get outta her efforts, like pressing the corruption case he'd not have but for that she quit over. Our silence would be tantamount to consent, or is this another example of a demand that we sit down and shutup so Donald can say we're alright with it, which no doubt would be helpful in gaining a win, no?

[GoCubsGo]

139. I wouldn't call it "bullying."

Perhaps "scapegoating" might be a better term. Or, better yet, "whipping boy", errr...whipping girl. But, yes. I am VERY tired of it. I am not sorry to see her stepping down, because I don't think she did her job well, at all. However, I have found the vitriol against here here appalling. It has been nothing but one big, long disgusting pile-on. At this point, I'm happy to see her go more because I hope the nasty shit will stop, than I am because she did a crappy job. I'm really sick of it all.

[George II]

142. It started late last year and wouldn't have ended until what happened today took place.

Sad thing is that many of her detractors aren't even Democrats.

[bravenak]

145. Yep. They ran her out. This is sad

I wont say the thing I'm thinking right now cause it's bad

[lastone]

143. I think your sympathy should be with

All the poor folks who've been screwed by pay day lenders, not dws...

[bravenak]

148. They have it and so does she. I have plenty to go around

[lastone]

153. She championed pay day lending

So your sympathy for both is hard to understand...

[bravenak]

157. I dont need understanding. I am understanding enough for both of us

[lastone]

177. Lol

Whatever you say!

#thankgodshesgone

[B Calm]

151. I'm sure Bernie Sanders is tired of her bullying too.

[bravenak]

152. When did she ever bully him?

[B Calm]

161. Fish not biting today.

[bravenak]

166. I dont fish

[B Calm]

172. I know, the bait you're using I've seen 100 times.

[4bucksagallon]

154. "Am I the only one tired of the Bullying of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?"

Well no it appears you have 30+/_ like minded people that agree with you. Me I am glad she is finally gone, wish she had been gone a long long time ago. She should be treated just like she treated Bernie and his supporters............ with contempt..

[jtuck004]

156. Probably not. Heck, if you go back in history, there were likely people outside Marie Antoinette's

cell, tired of all the harassment.

And that wound up replacing the tyrants with the wealthy, not the goal of the revolution. So perhaps there is a lesson, and you have a point.

[bravenak]

170. Thank you

[XemaSab]

158. I'm waiting for the emails detailing their race-baiting strategy

[bravenak]

159. Wont find anything

[Old Crow]

168. Leave Debbie Alone!

You have got to be kidding me.

[avaistheone1]

190. omg Thank you!!! I was just looking for that pic.

Spot on!!!!

[Old Crow]

197. You're welcome.

I was a little astounded by the OP.

My two cents: Debbie will be just fine. She did her job during the primaries and now that some troubling information has come to light, did her job again by falling on her sword to take the heat off. I have no doubt she'll be rewarded for all of this in due time, either with a government position or a cushy lobbyist's role.

[mcar]

173. I'm tired of it too

It's gotten ridiculous.

[perdita9]

175. Dishonor Must Always be Called Out

I don't like sexist comments, but Wasserman-Schultz betrayed her office and I'm glad she's out.

[avaistheone1]

199. She has made both the DNC, and Democrats look bad.

Unfortunately this turn of events should have come much sooner in the campaign.

[PoutrageFatigue]

178. Yes. She brought it on herself. Now she has to pay the price.

Pointing that out, or her other actions for the payday loan industry or her support of republican candidates, is not bullying.

She is not the victim here.

[Joey Liberal]

180. Yes n/t

[backscatter712]

184. She brought it on herself through her ratfucking.

As chair of the DNC, she had a duty to do her job impartially, but instead she kept tipping the scale for Hillary. The emails were simply the latest time she was caught.

Oh, now she haz a sad because people are saying mean things about her? Cry me a river.

[kstewart33]

187. Yep, it's time to move on to what matters.

Defeating Trump.

[bravenak]

193. Yes. Putin wants to effect the election for his buddy Donald. We cannot let him

[CanSocDem]

382. The Russians are coming, The Russians are coming...

too funny!



.

[KPN]

194. Nah, there's a few of you.

[calimary]

195. Nope.

Enough already. She's leaving already. Enough.

The more important story AND the more suspicious, I think, is the TIMING of this new email business. Gee, what a coinky-dink that it's breaking immediately before the Democratic convention... Hmmm...

[Feeling the Bern]

196. Poor Debbie. She is so innocent and pure. It's those sexist men who hate strong women

Even though she all but perverted the primary process, which has been exposed.

But that doesn't matter. . .she as a "D" before her name.

Being a Democrat doesn't automatically shield you if you're wrong. . .maybe you should post a youtube video like that person did about Britney Spears: "Leave Debbie Wasserman Schultz ALONE!!!!!"

[pnwmom]

210. Brad Marshall, a man, sent the nasty email. But for some reason DSW gets all the blame. n/t

[mia]

236. Wondered about that, too. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

241. As a person of Jewish background who is also an Atheist, I say that dude should resign too.

[bluedigger]

390. It's a shame his boss didn't do anything to rein him in.

Who was that again?

[pnwmom]

396. How do you know she didn't? There weren't any subsequent emails like that, at least released.

How do you know she didn't pick up the phone and tell him he was wrong? How do you know she didn't send him an unreleased email?

[NurseJackie]

198. No. You are not the only one. She's been ...

... the "whipping-girl" (so to speak, and to borrow a phrase from our country's ugly past) of all those with an axe to grind and who have an irrational hatred for Hillary Clinton.

It's been unfair, and she didn't deserve to be treated that way.

[bravenak]

208. I am glad she is leaving for her own health

Surviving cancer is hard enough even without the bullying. I hope she rests and has a nice time on the beach.

[Coolest Ranger]

200. No you're not

I been kicking and unfollowing many of them from my facebook page today. I've had enough

[bravenak]

213. It is exhausting

Never ends. I will not forget this campaign ever. Ever.

[greiner3]

206. WTF

[applegrove]

209. I'm glad she is resigning because of the leaked emails. But I agree she has been targeted.

And a lot longer than one year. My bet is she was the leading jewish Democrat and the GOP is gunning for the jewish vote. What with all their wedging, i would not put it past them.

[bravenak]

216. I would not put it past them either. They have been wanting the Jewish vote for years but it does

not happen.

[NanceGreggs]

212. No, you're not the only one.

DWS was the chosen scapegoat for a certain contingent here for the past year - but then every losing campaign needs one, because otherwise they'd have to face up to the obvious flaws within their own campaign and candidate-of-choice. Better to blame everything on someone else.

[bravenak]

215. I know we saw this coming from the way she was bullied this past year

I'm actually surprised that she stayed this long, I' am not as brave.

[sheshe2]

272. Especially if it is a woman.

[Warren DeMontague]

278. If DWS is so great, why isn't she on the ticket?

I mean, seems sort of unfair. She apparently has all these awesome qualities, right?

[sheshe2]

284. What are you going on about, Warren?

Why does she need to be on the ticket Warren? Women have unique qualities and abilities. Some shine in Congress and some like, RBG shine in SCOTUS. Elizabeth Warren, I never wanted her on the ticket, her strength is where she is. In the Senate.

Why should DWS be there? She is going back to Congress to shine. You don't need to push us all into one tiny ticket. We are bigger than that, we are stronger than that and we are far more brilliant than that. Just watch us!

[Warren DeMontague]

318. shine through things like voting to send medical marijuana patients to prison.

Damn, where are my sunglasses?


Note to jury- she has a democratic primary opponent.

[raindaddy]

214. I think it was the Democratic process that was bullied...

No need to feel sorry for poor Debby. She landed on her feet !!!! She just landed a top position in Hillary's campaign..

[Akamai]

218. BS! imperious, undemocratic, clearly pulling for one side. Refusing to allow more debates, and

the ones she did allow, placed on low watching times.

She has been absolutely dreadful. Maybe she is good as a conservative Republican, but not as the leader of the Democratic party.

Her leaving the party helps restore cred to the party and help progressives be more enthusiastic in this election.

Good for the Dems!

[bravenak]

222. Oh bull

Of course the party prefers the candidate that is long term and reliable, not only that they prefer the person who says positive things about the party and is opposed to those who call the party corrupt. That is what a political party does!!! It represents the interests of the party!

Why people think the party should support an attempt to tear it down and change it, I do not KNOW! That is not what a party is for. Those debates were boring as hell and I hate my shows being taken off for a boring ass debate once a week.

I'm fine with her leaving but the sexist shit and the bullying needs to end. There is no excuse for the bullying that she is experiencing right now.

[raindaddy]

243. Of course the "party" prefers.........?????????????????

And if the "party" is no longer the voters who exactly is the "party"?

Obviously having a fair election process to find out who the VOTERS want is no longer important to The Party.. Maybe it's the Wall Street banks and global corporations calling the shots????

[Indepatriot]

221. The OP is clearly satire.

[bravenak]

224. Nope

[treestar]

226. Nope

She is a scapegoat for Bernie losing.

[bravenak]

227. She sure is!

[Hekate]

228. You are not the only one

And now they have what they wanted.

Russian backed hackers release DNC emails and Debbie takes the fall. How in hell is this helpful to defeating Trump?

[bravenak]

231. It's like people want trump to win

[Warren DeMontague]

234. because maybe now we can have a party chair who isnt a disaster?

Who doesnt work with the likes of Sheldon Adelson to keep medical marijuana reform from passing in Florida?

[kurt_cagle]

229. No, I'm glad to see her gone.

I am a fairly heavy duty Hillary supporter, but I have wanted DWS out for a long time now. Why?

1) She SHOULD have remained impartial in the election, and clearly was not. This has led to a lot of unnecessary bad blood between the centrists and the progressives.
2) She should have been riding herd on the DNC, and should have made sure that there was no hint of impropriety there. This kind of email exchange doesn't occur in a vacuum, and her views about Sanders were well known.
3) She's been abusing her position in Florida to control how money is getting to Dem races there, and it has left a lot of good, progressive democrats both struggling and angry with the party. This is not how you get people to run for office.
4) Payday Loans. Enough said there.
5) She has projected an elitist attitude that has not only turned many people off, but that seems out of odds with the message. Personally, I think she has done damn as much damage to Clinton as ANY Republican.
6) There has seldom been any question that she was building her own power base, at the very real expense of doing the damn job.
7) She also set the tone elsewhere, including in Nevada and Colorado, that Sanders was NOT the preferred candidate, and this in turn exacerbated situations at the caucus level especially.

I could go on, but I think the list is pretty comprehensive. She was a good fundraiser, but that has been turned into a liability because it now makes things look increasingly like she was cozying up to precisely the moneyed interests so many in this party are frankly getting tired of. Where's the social media networks, the outreach campaigns, the GOTV efforts?

No, I'm not sorry to see her go. I think she blew it, big time, and this email release this weekend (while disturbing in its own right) was just the final straw.

[cyberpunk]

334. ++

[7962]

230. she's brought it on by her own decisions. She has to stand by them.

Why should be treated any differently than a man would who had done the same things?
Cant handle the job, dont take the job. You screw up, you take the hit. Your people screw up, you still take the hit

[avebury]

233. Yes

She should have been booted out a long time ago.

[TeddyR]

237. Yes you are the only one

She's a disgrace

[DemocratSinceBirth]

253. My sister Bravenak has 40 recommends in this thread so she can't be the "only one".

[TeddyR]

255. She's the only one

No progressive Dem supports DWS. Doesn't matter if you are a Hillary, Bernie, or O'Malley supporter, DWS is a disaster and has to go. 40 DU recs don't change the facts.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

265. Three points.

!) Most of us couldn't care less about DWS
2) Many of us think it is unseemly to kick a person when he or she is down
3) Many of us are upset that Putin had his minions leak embarrassing e-mails on the eve of our Convention to help his boy Donald Trump.

[Still In Wisconsin]

238. My biggest problem with DWS is that she was ineffective.

She lost the Senate ad the House, repeatedly.

So I'm glad she's gone. I don't want to watch people pile on, but she wasn't helping us.

[Chasstev365]

239. Pathetic

[aikoaiko]

240. whether it's bullying or not, it's going to get worse when she is booed off the stage tomorrow.

From my point of view she is just being held accountable for biases in the DNC that she denied many many times.

A lot of Bernie supporters were told to STFU if there wasn't any proof aside from the decisions that were made.

But in the long run this won't have any impact on the election unless DWS comes out with a full confession that she was colliding with HRC.

[Doctor Jack]

250. I don't really think she is being bullied

I have seen a lot of greatly trumped up accusations against her (no pun intended). Sure, there many at the DNC that clearly favored Clinton over Sanders but any accusation that they somehow stole the election from Sanders is ridiculous. Sanders was clearly a throne in their sides, especially late in the primaries and some expressed their grievances in private emails but the idea that they somehow greatly swayed the primaries in Clinton's favor lacks any evidence.

With that said though, DSW was a god awful DNC chairwoman. She did nothing to help the democrats in 2014 and overall, she was rather incompetent. In addition, it was obvious that she was at least quietly rooting for Clinton, which is no surprise, since she has been friends with Clinton for years. However, at the same time, the evidence that the DNC was in the bag for Clinton and sabotaged Sanders is extremely weak to nonexistent.

I'm glad she is gone but the mastermind behind Clinton rise, she was not. The odds that Sanders was going to win the nomination were always fairly low. It shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone that a very popular figure within the Democratic Party was heavily supported by members of that party, early on and that an outsider, that was not a member of the party until this year, was more likely to face steep odds in wresting that support from Clinton.

[CBHagman]

256. No, you are not.

I've long wondered if the unity of the long desert that was the G.W. Bush administration exposed the cracks in our DU facade, and the sudden loss of an administration to oppose resulted in the formation of circular firing squads.

[SaschaHM]

260. Nope.

Feels like we are in the thick of the primaries all over again with this shit. Today reminded me why I was so glad that this will be the last presidential election cycle that we will have to deal with Sanders as a contender.

[bravenak]

262. I feel the same way

[kacekwl]

263. YES

[David__77]

267. What distinguishes opposition from bullying?

A bully is defined as "a blustering, quarrelsome, overbearing person who habitually badgers and intimidates smaller or weaker people." Bullying is defined as "to act the bully toward; intimidate; domineer."

I can understand that people have widely divergent views on party policy and organizational matters.

[bravenak]

268. They way they call her vile names

[Cha]

274. Thank you for speaking out on the bullying of DWS, brave!

[bravenak]

283. Nomproblem. They treat this woman like dirt

[Rex]

293. She made her bed and has to sleep in it.

Glad she is gone, we need a fair leader that will not play inside politics. Now is not the time for such acts.

[uponit7771]

301. How? tia.... other than a bunch of made up and non falsifiable bullshit...

[Rex]

302. Lost us too many seats, sorry we can do better.

[uponit7771]

303. See, non falsifiable bullshit... 2010 was all DWS's fault? REALLY?! Come one man

[Rex]

304. Just 2010? Really?

How long has she been DNC chair?

[uponit7771]

305. Since the largest amount of gerrymandering by the GOP in US history took place? Are we going to ...

... be factual and fair or play like I'm a LIV too?

Got anything else?

tia

[Rex]

306. What is a LIV?

English please.

[uponit7771]

307. Low Information Voter, I know about the GOP congressional gerrymadering in 2010 and it was historic

... and unprecedented and not DWS's fault and should not be laid at her feet.

Not that she was perfect or and sometimes she was even good but adequate and not deserving of this bullshit...

Is there anything else falsifiable that she did to really screw the pooch... I don't blame her for congress.

tia

[Rex]

309. Well we disagree then. And this was not all about 2010.

I was here and remember the Left getting lambasted for the fault of our loses in 2010...then it was discovered it was moderates that failed to show up in numbers...not the Left.

So I take a lot with a grain of salt now, since the morale beatings in 2010 I wised up to the game here by some. DWS is fine, she will go on to great things and I am glad she is gone and we can get on now with beating Trump. I think that was the original goal.

[uponit7771]

310. Most likely, tRumps "bounce" doesn't get him above the GOP floor ... she'll do good things

[Rex]

311. Bernie is done, DWS is done - both sides got what they wanted.

Both are standing behind HRC and will kick Trump's ass all the way back to Trump Tower.

[uponit7771]

312. +1

[Surya Gayatri]

336. This is one statement I can get behind:

Both are standing behind HRC and will kick Trump's ass all the way back to Trump Tower.

[betsuni]

295. Agree. I logged in this morning, took a look around, left.

DWS's being chased through the streets by angry townspeople upset about the primaries, muttering their usual litany of mindless insults and complaints against Democrats. Meanwhile, Trumpenstein is burglarizing their cottages and stealing all the best milk cows.

Poor Donna Brazile. She's next.

[bravenak]

298. Yep. They might try to get her next

[betsuni]

409. The Young Turks' Cenk and Ana called Donna establishment, centrist,

corporatist and having the same "mindset" as DWS, but another guy wasn't having any of that and defended her. Then Ana whined about the diabolical DWS plot to hold debates on the weekend, wherein the other guy pointed out that those debates had high ratings. Oh no, TYT talking points fail!

[bravenak]

411. I'm glad I gave up listening to them last summer

And that debate thing is one I see whined about regularly. I'm sorry but the debates were biring.

[betsuni]

412. I know. I used to like them, then last year something happened and they lost their common sense.

It has happened to a lot of people and I don't understand why.

[DoBotherMe]

297. Yes I am tired of her being bullied

. She was doing her job as outlined in the charter. If people don't like the way the Democratic organization runs their operation they can start their own damn party.

[Doodley]

308. I agree. And Bernie Sanders should be ashamed of himself for his part.

[Jim Lane]

313. To some people, "bullying" = "criticism of someone on my team"

To some people, the validity or invalidity of a criticism is of no importance. Criticism of DWS is bullying. By contrast, pointing out an error in a particular criticism of someone odious means that one is defending that person and is a supporter.

Those simple-minded souls will probably agree with you, and there are (far too) many of them, so I would say that, no, you aren't the only one.

[BlueMTexpat]

319. You are NOT!

I have never been a DWS fan ... for a variety of reasons.

But this constant piling on and bullying - and this final B***S*** "scandal over emails has put me in her corner so that I am actually donating to her re-election campaign.

Anyone who criticizes me for this opinion or any of my posts about it will increase the amounts that DWS will receive from me. So, please proceed. The DWS campaign thanks you in advance.

[bigwillq]

320. She's not being bullied.

If one can't do a job, they are criticized for it. As they should be. She was awful. About time she resigned.

[Surya Gayatri]

321. Thank you SO much for daring to say what I feel...

Here's the short and sweet comment I made in another thread:

Some pretty dodgy "liberal" values are on display in the threads that cheer her public humiliation and overt harassment.

Sickening, despicable and not worthy of true Democrats.

[NCTraveler]

325. The anti-woman crowd is as nasty as it comes and transparent.

Women amassing power and using it is off limits in their book. They have a history of trying to take great progressive women down. Just look at what the pieces of shit tried to do to Boxer.

[Demsrule86]

327. She has been treated horribly.

[ismnotwasm]

328. No not the only one

The whole business would be pathetic theater if the stakes weren't so high

[BobbyDrake]

332. They couldn't beat Clinton, so they'll settle for any woman who knows her.

It's like Viagra for the impotent Left. Temporary relief from a permanent condition.

[Surya Gayatri]

344. Brilliant simile...

[YouDig]

335. I hear ya, but the stakes are too high.

We need to win, and some people have decided she is the root of all evil. People we need to vote for us. If giving the Bernie or Busters her scalp will get us some votes, then I'm on board.

After the election they can set her up for life. Consulting gigs, speaking arrangements, corporate boards, whatever. Yeah, it's sexist and unfair, but we need to win the election, and if she is an impediment, she needs to go.

[LexVegas]

339. Yep. nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

340. Hopefully so.

[brooklynboy49]

345. To answer your question...

No.

[floriduck]

347. Unfortunately, no.

[Powdered Toast Man]

351. You must be joking

She's not being bullied... She's being criticized, and for good reason.

Good riddance.

[cer7711]

352. Poor, poor pitiable payday loan protector/subverter of democracy/smug elitist D.W.S.!

My heart bleeds for this noble, Kennedy-like public servant.

It's all I can think about as I decide whether to buy food or medicine, pay my internet cable or electric bill: How will poor, poor pitiable all-in-for-Hillary/f#ck Bernie Sanders survive with her wittle feelings hurt?

:::epic eye roll:::

[Politicub]

353. Stoning is clearly the only way to purge these negative emotions

Resigning is not good enough. The people need an outlet to release their pent up emotions.

A good, old-fashioned stoning in the public square is the only way, apparently, for some people to get on with their lives.

[Larkspur]

354. DWS earned every critique and piece of contempt thrown her way

She was incompetent and arrogant. Unfortunately, she is not the only Democrat who behaves that way. Rahm Emmanuel tops her in the arrogance and bullying categories.

[xocet]

355. To hell w/ DWS - she is not being bullied. Unity through dishonesty and bluster is not unity. n/t

[rocktivity]

358. She knew the job was dangerous when she took it.

She completed her mission and got her reward.

It's not our fault that the only thing bullies take seriously is being bulled back.


rocktivity

[shenmue]

362. Me too

[Vinca]

364. She isn't being bullied, she's being held accountable.

And the guy who sent the Jew or atheist email needs to go, too.

[Stainless]

365. DWS should have resigned a year ago

She is devious, divisive and disgusting. She lied and cheated to help ruin Bernie's chance to be the nominee. The entire DNC needs a makeover.

[Shankapotomus]

366. Right or wrong

I think we can all agree the people attacking Debbie's appearance---and I saw this happening on twitter--- are immature assholes. So there is bullying and harassment going on.

Nobody likes to see people pile on when someone is surrounded by a mob. It's barbaric and revolting.

People with any human sensitivity should know enough to realize when someone has been harassed enough and I think many (not all, I was one) Bernie supporters are missing that internal sensor. They just don't let up or dial it back. But when you're young you don't realize you can be too passionate.

[FighttheFuture]

368. No, I am not tired of shining sunlight on a cockroach like DWS. It's about time, already!

[mckara]

369. Hahaha Even Criminals are Victims with this Logic

Nice try shifting the issue

[Ford_Prefect]

371. I notice that no one has denied the content of those emails. Not one.

Whatever you want to say about DWS her people were up to no good throughout the entire primary season and thus had a significant effect on the outcome. If nothing else they have succeeded in adding their poisonous attitude to the dialog we are seeing played out on national news stations today and I suspect to that on DU as well. She bears responsibility for the leadership she must have provided and the lack of balance she clearly brought to the job.

It is not a small thing.

It seems to me that if you are tired of the dispute then you could bend your efforts towards solving it rather than denying that it continues to exist. If someone had stolen your mother's social security check you'd be howling at the appropriate authority to make things right, not telling her to "move on".

[dembotoz]

372. nope not tired at all ......................................she earned it

[Chakab]

373. I'm tired of people willing to excuse the bad behavior and incompetence of the leadership

of the party strictly for the purpose of supporting their desired candidate.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

374. An attack on Debbie is not an attack on Hillary.

[liberal N proud]

377. They BSer have only been doing it for months.

[Laser102]

378. I doubt this will make her antagonists happy. They will hate everyone that takes her place. Why?

We all know the answer. Thank God Bernie isn't like these people.

[tiredtoo]

380. You are not the only one tired of this bullying

The payday loan companies are also upset with this.

[Buddyblazon]

383. When you act like a jerk to millions of people and get caught cheating...

really...you kind of deserve the heat. It's one of a multitude of reasons that most people don't act like jerks and cheat.

No. Not tired of it. Not excited by it. It's pretty much to be expected when you act in the manner she has.

[barbtries]

384. i think

she should have stepped down long ago.

[Zen Democrat]

386. I was tired of HER bullying when she was surreptitiously stepping all over the Sanders campaign.

It's not like we didn't see it, feel it, and know it. But, the worst part was having the entire HRC contingent on DU call us "Conspiracy Theorists."

Enjoy the truth today.

[Marr]

393. Right? And now you're a sexist for being angry about it once proved.

I don't even think these people care about consistency. What they're doing is closer to trolling than discussion.

[Eleanors38]

395. Why, you are such a bully! Pee-pee on you!

DWS should been out years ago.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

387. My heart bleeds for poor Debbie.

Well....not really.

[denbot]

388. Ya do what ya do..

and ya get what ya get..

[Maru Kitteh]

389. No. You're not the only one.

[grahamhgreen]

391. Does it make you mad when you see your representative being treated unfairly?

[usaf-vet]

397. I don't know if you are the only one BUT

if she is guilty of one tenth of the things she is accused of than she should have been pushed out months ago. I do not feel sorry for her. She brought a lot of it on to herself. She clearly didn't see Bernie as an equally viable candidate. She has always seemed to me to be only a Hillary supporter. I know how rabid some Clinton supporter have become. They cannot be reasoned with. Trump wrongfully suggest that there was nothing he could do even in a public venue that his supporters would abandon him for. I think for some Hillary supports that is also true.

[Omaha Steve]

398. It seems Hillary & Obama threw her under the bus today

Maybe you could add that to your OP?

[Scalded Nun]

399. Being bullied? Give me a break.

Karma, on the other hand...

[wryter2000]

400. I am

Enough, already.

[cynatnite]

405. I am, too.

I totally understand the frustration over her time as DNC chair. She hasn't done a good job, IMO. But a lot of the attacks have really been beyond the pale.

She's out. Time to move on.