2016 Postmortem
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we can do it
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(12,180 posts)still_one
(92,116 posts)Of course if there is anything negative to post about Hillary, Salon will be right on top of it.
Not so quick if there are positive things.
Wounded Bear
(58,634 posts)Both? Hmmmm, don't think so.
still_one
(92,116 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)and the numbers are meaningless during the conventions.
Renaissance Man
(669 posts)This is not that hard to fathom, at all. Ohio and Pennsylvania are Rustbelt states. Iowa and Florida being tossups (and battleground states) are not hard to fathom, either.
stopbush
(24,395 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)teenagebambam
(1,592 posts)Flipped PA back to blue and has Clinton ahead.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)Between Ohio and Florida, I think that Hillary has a much better shot at winning Florida than Ohio. The demographics in Florida just do not favor Donald Trump and Voto Latino is doing huge registration and GOTV efforts in Florida. Hillary can hold on to Florida and lose Ohio and even some other states that went Obama and still get to 270.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)I think Trump would be tied or behind Bernie, but HRC will probably move back ahead after the convention provided the next few days are drama-free.
The bottom line is that there are a lot of folks who are going to vote Trump come hell or high water. I think potential Democratic voters outnumber them by a decent margin, but how
many are sitting this one out or voting 3rd party? I think the well of anti-Trump fervor isn't quite deep enough to carry the day for HRC, she'll need to give the lukewarm Democrats and independents a reason to vote FOR her.
The next 106 days will determine if she's able to pull this off. I'd still give her the edge but it's not going to be the cakewalk so many on DU seem to be convinced of.
annavictorious
(934 posts)It doesn't help when political neophytes play right into Rapey Julian's hand. Those idiots were booing Bernie Sanders this afternoon at his own rally.
Well-played, Rapey Julian. Stirring up false outrage to the point where Sanders gets booed at his own rally on the first day of the convention. That was a pretty picture.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)THIS PARTICULAR OP IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
Nate has Hillary forecast to win 53.9% to 46.1% for Trump.
I really wish Mister Twilight would quit lying like this.
Another Putinite for my ignore list.
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Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)at the top of the left column; polls plus, polls only, and now cast.
The OP is about the now cast which shows what would happen if the election were today. As of 4:30 pm eastern it still shows Trump winning in the now-cast.
Luckily the election is not being held today so the one you linked to (polls only) is more appropriate long term. Still, slightly better than coin flip odds aren't exactly reassuring.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)The rest is a toss up at this point. We must mobilize and GOTV.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
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Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If there was a Now Cast model he would have had a less than one percent chance of winning. He lost in a landslide.