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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Jul 2016 OP
This has been posted some time ago. we can do it Jul 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #5
Yes posted already on this site. we can do it Jul 2016 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #20
Well it's stale now- Hillary ahead again. we can do it Jul 2016 #21
Interestingly Kasach believes that Trump will lose Ohio. I also don't buy the map for Penn, still_one Jul 2016 #2
Ohio and Penn going Trump? Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #3
I don't either. I also don't think Iowa will go to Trump still_one Jul 2016 #4
It's not a prediction - it's what he thinks would happen if the election were held today, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #6
Midwestern States and two Rustbelt States? Renaissance Man Jul 2016 #8
This is not forecast. stopbush Jul 2016 #9
The election is not today!nt Mass Jul 2016 #10
It's already (Jul 25, 3:25 pm EDT) teenagebambam Jul 2016 #11
FLORIDA FLORIDA FLORIDA UMTerp01 Jul 2016 #12
Aside from state polling not backing that up, it's unfair to put a map out between the conventions. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #13
I've said all along this was going to be close... Yurovsky Jul 2016 #14
What's your point? annavictorious Jul 2016 #15
AS USUAL MISTER TWILIGHT IS MISREPRESENTING THINGS TO MAKE TRUMP LOOK BETTER. Squinch Jul 2016 #16
+1 RonniePudding Jul 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #25
There are three different models which you can select Imperialism Inc. Jul 2016 #27
And the one that projects the winner has Hillary by a large margin. As opposed to what the OP says. Squinch Jul 2016 #28
Hillary will win Pennsylvania. Maybe Nevada too. Tatiana Jul 2016 #17
Thanks for your concern. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #18
Thank you for your genuine and heart fellt concern. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #22
Your concern is noted. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2016 #24
Michael Dukakis had a seventeen point lead at the end of his Convention. I NEVER LIE DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #26

we can do it

(12,180 posts)
1. This has been posted some time ago.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jul 2016

Response to we can do it (Reply #1)

we can do it

(12,180 posts)
7. Yes posted already on this site.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

Response to we can do it (Reply #7)

we can do it

(12,180 posts)
21. Well it's stale now- Hillary ahead again.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jul 2016

still_one

(92,116 posts)
2. Interestingly Kasach believes that Trump will lose Ohio. I also don't buy the map for Penn,
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jul 2016

Of course if there is anything negative to post about Hillary, Salon will be right on top of it.

Not so quick if there are positive things.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
3. Ohio and Penn going Trump?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:15 PM
Jul 2016

Both? Hmmmm, don't think so.

still_one

(92,116 posts)
4. I don't either. I also don't think Iowa will go to Trump
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jul 2016

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
6. It's not a prediction - it's what he thinks would happen if the election were held today,
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jul 2016

and the numbers are meaningless during the conventions.

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
8. Midwestern States and two Rustbelt States?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

This is not that hard to fathom, at all. Ohio and Pennsylvania are Rustbelt states. Iowa and Florida being tossups (and battleground states) are not hard to fathom, either.

stopbush

(24,395 posts)
9. This is not forecast.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jul 2016

Mass

(27,315 posts)
10. The election is not today!nt
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

teenagebambam

(1,592 posts)
11. It's already (Jul 25, 3:25 pm EDT)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jul 2016

Flipped PA back to blue and has Clinton ahead.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
12. FLORIDA FLORIDA FLORIDA
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jul 2016

Between Ohio and Florida, I think that Hillary has a much better shot at winning Florida than Ohio. The demographics in Florida just do not favor Donald Trump and Voto Latino is doing huge registration and GOTV efforts in Florida. Hillary can hold on to Florida and lose Ohio and even some other states that went Obama and still get to 270.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
13. Aside from state polling not backing that up, it's unfair to put a map out between the conventions.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jul 2016

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
14. I've said all along this was going to be close...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jul 2016

I think Trump would be tied or behind Bernie, but HRC will probably move back ahead after the convention provided the next few days are drama-free.

The bottom line is that there are a lot of folks who are going to vote Trump come hell or high water. I think potential Democratic voters outnumber them by a decent margin, but how
many are sitting this one out or voting 3rd party? I think the well of anti-Trump fervor isn't quite deep enough to carry the day for HRC, she'll need to give the lukewarm Democrats and independents a reason to vote FOR her.

The next 106 days will determine if she's able to pull this off. I'd still give her the edge but it's not going to be the cakewalk so many on DU seem to be convinced of.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
15. What's your point?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jul 2016

It doesn't help when political neophytes play right into Rapey Julian's hand. Those idiots were booing Bernie Sanders this afternoon at his own rally.

Well-played, Rapey Julian. Stirring up false outrage to the point where Sanders gets booed at his own rally on the first day of the convention. That was a pretty picture.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
16. AS USUAL MISTER TWILIGHT IS MISREPRESENTING THINGS TO MAKE TRUMP LOOK BETTER.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

THIS PARTICULAR OP IS COMPLETELY UNTRUE.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

Nate has Hillary forecast to win 53.9% to 46.1% for Trump.

I really wish Mister Twilight would quit lying like this.

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
23. +1
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jul 2016

Another Putinite for my ignore list.

Response to Squinch (Reply #16)

Imperialism Inc.

(2,495 posts)
27. There are three different models which you can select
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jul 2016

at the top of the left column; polls plus, polls only, and now cast.

The OP is about the now cast which shows what would happen if the election were today. As of 4:30 pm eastern it still shows Trump winning in the now-cast.

Luckily the election is not being held today so the one you linked to (polls only) is more appropriate long term. Still, slightly better than coin flip odds aren't exactly reassuring.

Squinch

(50,935 posts)
28. And the one that projects the winner has Hillary by a large margin. As opposed to what the OP says.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:35 PM
Jul 2016

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
17. Hillary will win Pennsylvania. Maybe Nevada too.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

The rest is a toss up at this point. We must mobilize and GOTV.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
18. Thanks for your concern.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jul 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. Thank you for your genuine and heart fellt concern.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jul 2016

Response to Name removed (Original post)

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
24. Your concern is noted. nt
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jul 2016

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
26. Michael Dukakis had a seventeen point lead at the end of his Convention. I NEVER LIE
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:21 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.gallup.com/poll/110548/gallup-presidential-election-trial-heat-trends.aspx


If there was a Now Cast model he would have had a less than one percent chance of winning. He lost in a landslide.
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