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Bernie Sanders speech thread (Original Post) CajunBlazer Jul 2016 OP
A little nervous, but remaining positive. Tatiana Jul 2016 #1
Here we go folks... Socal31 Jul 2016 #2
Hopefully he doesn't pull a Cruz. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #3
the odds of that are slim and none fishwax Jul 2016 #5
This is sander's last rodeo at this level, doing that would get him nowhere. nt Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #9
I share your hope. BainsBane Jul 2016 #97
Well, he did indeed endorse! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #99
Bring it home, Bernie fishwax Jul 2016 #4
He needs to go mean grandpa on some folks if they act up. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #6
I so wish I was there eastwestdem Jul 2016 #7
Nice hair. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #8
Getting a well desreved ovation AwakeAtLast Jul 2016 #10
I'm getting teary and he hasn't even started yet. nt Laffy Kat Jul 2016 #11
Well, he did bring some energy to the party. Tatiana Jul 2016 #12
okay, now, time to let the man talk fishwax Jul 2016 #13
He needs to get this shit under control. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #14
he's earned this applause; he's elevated the debate Bucky Jul 2016 #20
I am so proud of him shireen Jul 2016 #15
Great ovation! bigwillq Jul 2016 #16
He needs to condemn the trolls acting on his behalf, ecstatic Jul 2016 #17
My father died 33 years ago when I was 20. Bernie is passing the torch... lostnfound Jul 2016 #133
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #18
Good start... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #19
Uh oh he's talking up his campaign Socal31 Jul 2016 #21
In shocked! bettyellen Jul 2016 #23
Why uh oh? He fought hard and deserves to say so. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #25
Don't worry Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #28
Hes thanking those who supported him. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #33
as he should fishwax Jul 2016 #68
What is the song in the Sanders ad? tia... This has outclassed the GOP crapfest by a mile!!! uponit7771 Jul 2016 #22
'America' by Paul Simon Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #31
thx!!! Beuatiful song uponit7771 Jul 2016 #36
Bernie,Bernie,Bernie! coco77 Jul 2016 #24
Oh wow he's doing it.... Socal31 Jul 2016 #26
Okay, Bernie, let's not laps into your stump speech CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #27
He already gave it earlier today. nt femmocrat Jul 2016 #34
This is boring. woolldog Jul 2016 #29
Seriously, this is as big of a stage as he will ever have. Let it flow. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #35
Oh for christs sake. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #40
what? woolldog Jul 2016 #46
Go to bed. These 15 minutes are aimed at you. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #54
Me too bravenak Jul 2016 #58
It's gotten better. woolldog Jul 2016 #107
Ok good. I'll turn it back on now bravenak Jul 2016 #126
Of course. He's not allowed to be proud of his own campaign. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #62
Really? Then don't sit here and comment go do something more exciting onecaliberal Jul 2016 #130
I see he is making it all about himself. tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #30
It better get better than this. Loki Jul 2016 #37
No plane for him! bettyellen Jul 2016 #42
+1 bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #76
He need to do that Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #39
He looks rested and tanner bravenak Jul 2016 #32
He understand their dissapointment... But he hopes they take enormous pride in his campaign? bettyellen Jul 2016 #38
I think he means what they accomplished in the platform. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #44
I understand his statement. David__77 Jul 2016 #45
No one is more dissappointed than he is bravenak Jul 2016 #41
"I look forward to your votes in the roll call" Recursion Jul 2016 #43
HOW DARE HE BE PROUD OF HIS OWN CAMPAIGN liberalnarb Jul 2016 #52
Yeah. auntpurl Jul 2016 #66
Uh oh.... "our revolution continues"... femmocrat Jul 2016 #47
He would kick Donald Trump's ass in a fistfight n/t Kennah Jul 2016 #48
He needs to do this in order to get them to Hillary.. zenabby Jul 2016 #49
More stump speech time bravenak Jul 2016 #50
I hope he makes this bigger than himself ... begin talking UNITY Greywing Jul 2016 #51
It sounds like he is trying to now.... bettyellen Jul 2016 #59
God. It's just pathetic. Sure hope he turns it around. JTFrog Jul 2016 #53
How's it pathetic? IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #69
Notice that Elizabeth didn't Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #87
You're clueless. IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #109
Perhaps you are clueless. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #154
Did you listen to the speech? IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #177
Did you? Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #194
Exactly. nt JTFrog Jul 2016 #115
How elegantly put. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #155
I look forward to your criticism of Clinton on Thursday. chascarrillo Jul 2016 #117
You don't seem to understand Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #160
Half of his speech was about Clinton. Yet you trash Bernie. chascarrillo Jul 2016 #190
The last minutes were. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #196
Of course she didn't. She doesn't have a delegation to whip into line for the ticket. fishwax Jul 2016 #173
He did finally get there. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #183
As a Hillary supporter.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #192
I applaud your faith. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #211
I just wrote this in response to another Hillary supporter... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #212
I'm not worried. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #214
Time to pivot, Bernie. baldguy Jul 2016 #55
So... now would be about the time when we circle around to unity. n/t Tatiana Jul 2016 #56
ugh Beantighe Jul 2016 #57
and 10 minutes later... Beantighe Jul 2016 #122
Impression? Satch59 Jul 2016 #60
The struggle continues. Next, let's overthrow Congress. Say it Bernie. Say it. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #61
Yes congress and the future.... This is a rehash of the primary speech. bettyellen Jul 2016 #70
Imagine how many are watching him for the first time, esp. Republicans. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #189
This election is about the needs of the American people! Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #63
Go Bernie! liberalmuse Jul 2016 #64
I have to say, these people are all "big picture" speech makers and that makes me proud. nolabear Jul 2016 #65
Okay, he has them riled up, now he needs to bring them with him CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #67
can he endorse already? Its late. ericson00 Jul 2016 #71
Nah, your ass can wait IamTheNoodle Jul 2016 #73
GO BERNIE!!! mucifer Jul 2016 #72
Okay, this is the transition - smooth CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #74
Finally. "Hillary Clinton must become the next president of the United States." femmocrat Jul 2016 #88
Okay, I am now a Bernie Sanders supporter again! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #114
Silence as he gives Obama credit ... bettyellen Jul 2016 #75
I heard pretty lavish applause forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #77
After an uncomfortable silence bettyellen Jul 2016 #82
I wish the crowd would let me hear him bravenak Jul 2016 #78
Go Bernie, Go! RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #79
He is too selfish to fully helpisontheway Jul 2016 #80
Guess you were wrong.. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #106
My appoligies for the remaks of my fellow Hillary supporter CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #202
Thank you. We should be done with all that, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #204
Hardily agreed!!! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #206
The whole second half of his speech is about Clinton. So goddamn selfish of him! chascarrillo Jul 2016 #138
My apologizes for the remarks of my fellow Hillary supporter CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #203
You are why people won't come to her side. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #151
My apologizes for the remarks of my fellow Hillary supporter CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #205
As one Hillary supporter to another - STOP IT!!!! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #200
"We needs leadership that brings us together and makes us stronger." Tatiana Jul 2016 #81
Go Bernie!!!! uponit7771 Jul 2016 #83
"Hillary Clinton MUST become the next president of the United States" 2theleft Jul 2016 #84
Was there any doubt that he would? Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #89
Finally! bettyellen Jul 2016 #92
Thank you Bernie Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #93
For sure! 2theleft Jul 2016 #100
what else would he say fishwax Jul 2016 #101
I voted for him in the primary 2theleft Jul 2016 #108
Ah, I see ... I didn't mean to sound overly snarky fishwax Jul 2016 #123
No apologies needed... 2theleft Jul 2016 #140
BOOM!!! There it is! So much for Cruz v2.0. bullwinkle428 Jul 2016 #85
Nice credit to PBO and VP Biden mcar Jul 2016 #86
They still won't accept it... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #90
He is doing well. Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #91
What a great speech! jzodda Jul 2016 #94
Thanks, Bernie. It wasn't emotional but it was sincere. nolabear Jul 2016 #95
I wish someone would just ask who wants to elect Trump. n/t Tatiana Jul 2016 #96
oblique endorsement Whimsey Jul 2016 #98
I agree. auntpurl Jul 2016 #103
He could have come out with a million dollar check for Hillary. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2016 #112
All too true. Bernie haters gotta hate! GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #139
Green Party voter? Whimsey Jul 2016 #191
Voting should not be strategic, and there is no reason that it should be with ranked voting ballots. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #193
I do not understand your post Whimsey Jul 2016 #195
Let me explain. I live in Maine, my Governor, the illustrious tea partier Paul LePage gained GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #198
Oh, for pities sake! Siwsan Jul 2016 #150
lol -- yeah, whatever fishwax Jul 2016 #105
Would you like a pound of flesh? Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #110
Yes,they do.. coco77 Jul 2016 #181
Personally I was waiting for wailing and rending of cloths riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #187
It's an extremely well-crafted speech BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #102
Bernie has a huge heart. HUGE. VOX Jul 2016 #104
Lay it out Bernie! Tell them exactly what this election is about! Greywing Jul 2016 #111
He is doing a great job of it. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #128
I think he's doing a great job too Greywing Jul 2016 #149
Not a particularly great speech TeddyR Jul 2016 #113
He's no Michelle Obama. nolabear Jul 2016 #118
Right, ... I don't think Obama could follow that speech ... it was very moving uponit7771 Jul 2016 #127
2020, Baby. nolabear Jul 2016 #134
I think it is a great speech - a great speech is one who moves people CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #129
Go away onecaliberal Jul 2016 #159
Really? TeddyR Jul 2016 #170
14 million people did NOT vote for warren Michelle or booker. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #174
He's trying oberliner Jul 2016 #116
Bernie doing a good job.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #119
He just proposed near universal college... Socal31 Jul 2016 #120
Good speech. Acknowledging all the work of his supporters, and realizes what the stakes are, and is still_one Jul 2016 #121
AMAZING. Nothing else can be said! nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #124
Bernie is making the best case he can in support of Clinton, I guess. Tatiana Jul 2016 #125
Without inciting his supporters to riot CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #137
He is tying Hillary into every plank of his campaign CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #153
Great speech Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #131
I think he's doing great ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #132
Very good speech and a nice, clear endorsement mvd Jul 2016 #135
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #147
Enumerating elements of the platform? elleng Jul 2016 #136
Exactly Madam Mossfern Jul 2016 #152
community Health centers flamingdem Jul 2016 #141
He's bringing them home. Thank you, Bernie. Hekate Jul 2016 #142
Bernie has moved Hillary further to the left True Dough Jul 2016 #143
He's explaining to supporters ALL of the REASONS she should be supported. lostnfound Jul 2016 #148
No Republican was able to talk about Trump like this... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #144
+1, GOP treated him like he stunk uponit7771 Jul 2016 #145
Well, he does! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #158
They felt compelled to kinda-sorta support him but wanted to keep the stench off. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #209
Great speech! Bringing the fire as always! GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #146
He is doing much better katmondoo Jul 2016 #162
I think once we get past the vote, things will get better. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #167
Amazing as always Chimichurri Jul 2016 #156
His people need to understand that they aren't strong by themselves CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #157
Kicking for Bernie! LongTomH Jul 2016 #161
Was Bill just chewing on his fingernails? NWCorona Jul 2016 #163
Those people sitting here and continuing to disparage are NOT helping her cause. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #164
"Hillary will make an outstanding president and I am proud to stand with her tonight." femmocrat Jul 2016 #165
Thank you sweet Jesus LoveMyCali Jul 2016 #166
Strong endorsement, he'll still be blamed when/if she loses riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #168
I don't think so CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #178
Lol, yeah the meme is already set. Bookmarking nt riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #179
Let's hope you never have to pull it out of the archives CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #182
Final thoughts? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #169
Very very strong bluestateguy Jul 2016 #171
I was really getting pissed off by the BoB people tandot Jul 2016 #172
I hope so. Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #184
tears yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #175
Me too, Yui! LongTomH Jul 2016 #176
Tears? There are many kind of tears. Why were you moved to tears? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #180
Its called emotional investment yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #185
I was moved to tears by the power of Bernie's speech as well as by sorrow that we..... LongTomH Jul 2016 #186
I thought it was a pretty classy speech hollowdweller Jul 2016 #188
To all you Bernie bashers, you are NO better than the Bernie or bust people. onecaliberal Jul 2016 #197
+1 B Calm Jul 2016 #199
I doubt we'll hear from him again during the election cycle. Beausoir Jul 2016 #201
Be kind. Don't judge. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #207
Yes! Like..don't heckle Liz Warren! Beausoir Jul 2016 #208
I was very happy with his speech. Great job, Bernie!! (eom) StevieM Jul 2016 #210
I thought he did great MelSC Jul 2016 #213

BainsBane

(53,093 posts)
97. I share your hope.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jul 2016

I'll have to read about it afterward. I'm not feeling up to watching it. I did hear Liz Warren on the radio. She knocked it out of the park!

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
12. Well, he did bring some energy to the party.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jul 2016

Sad to see the tears, but these people should have listened to Michelle... don't pack up your bags and go home. Get involved. And defeat Trump!

shireen

(8,333 posts)
15. I am so proud of him
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:53 PM
Jul 2016

Damn, he hasnt even started speaking and I'm in tears.

Love you, Sen. Sanders. You are a treasure.

lostnfound

(16,194 posts)
133. My father died 33 years ago when I was 20. Bernie is passing the torch...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:15 PM
Jul 2016

The torch that he is not here to pass. If you don't have a father who raised kids in the Depression, maybe you don't understand something about America that was lost in the 80s and beyond.

Response to CajunBlazer (Original post)

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
68. as he should
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jul 2016

His campaign brought him here. His campaign brought thousands who will enthusiastically support and work for the ticket here.

His campaign for the nomination is over, but the task now is to direct the energy of that campaign to the next task at hand: electing Hillary Clinton. He can't do that task without drawing out that energy.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
107. It's gotten better.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jul 2016

I still don't understand the fuss over this guy, but as long as he gets through to his supporters, it's all good.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
62. Of course. He's not allowed to be proud of his own campaign.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jul 2016

Or what they've accomplished in the platform.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. No one is more dissappointed than he is
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jul 2016

Sounds kinda like his stump speech. People are cheering over him a bit. Revolution continues, he says.

zenabby

(364 posts)
49. He needs to do this in order to get them to Hillary..
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jul 2016

He can't suddenly become another person. He has to connect the dots between his revolution and Hillary. He will do that. He is a smart guy.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
51. I hope he makes this bigger than himself ... begin talking UNITY
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:58 PM
Jul 2016

please, Bernie. I caucused for you but I'll be very disappointed if you don't bring this evening to a close with a speech about for need for unity!

IamTheNoodle

(98 posts)
69. How's it pathetic?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jul 2016

He's not a lapdog. And remember Hillary does not win without Bernie's backing, that's a fact.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
87. Notice that Elizabeth didn't
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jul 2016

spend the first half of her speech talking about how wonderful she was, what a great person she was. The ego here is beyond belief. He can't be so clueless.

IamTheNoodle

(98 posts)
109. You're clueless.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jul 2016

He was thanking his supporters, you expected him to just go out and praise Hillary without giving thanks to his supporters?

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
154. Perhaps you are clueless.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jul 2016

That was helpful wasn't it.

He wasn't thanking supporters he was basking in ego-gratification.

I supported every one of his positions from the beginning of his campaign (except for his support of gun manufacturers). But I read some of the things that were never reported about him and his background. He was never going to be elected. Never. I would love if his non-gun proposals all passed, but the republicans would have eaten him alive. He needs to know that. He needs to understand how the county works. He will get more done if he joins the Democratic party and gets to work instead of just yelling and riding the wave of uninformed love.

I do like that he has finally made the transition. He will now be remembered as someone who helped to defeat trump or as the ralph nader who killed a generation of Americans. We'll see.

Added Comment: Nice ending. He finally got there.

IamTheNoodle

(98 posts)
177. Did you listen to the speech?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

It's clear he's backing and working for Hillary, and will bring MUCH NEEDED energy to the campaign.

And unless your a time traveler you don't know if he couldn't win the election, but who cares we'll never know.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
194. Did you?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:50 PM
Jul 2016

Our exchange began during the first 15 minutes of the speech. I did like the end of his speech. It still isn't clear that he will actively get his crowd out to support Hillary as much as they supported him. I'm an old guy. I still remember McCarthy and his Clean Gene army pouting through the election and giving us richard nixon. We'll see how he does.

We are all time travelers. I've been at it for almost seven decades. Most of that time I've been very politically active. So I do have really good idea about un-electable candidates. Seen a lot of them. Supported and worked for some too. The Clinton camp never used the op research on Bernie. (Not because they were so noble, but because it would piss off people whose vote they would need.) The republicans had the same op research, but they held onto it, just praying that Bernie would be the nominee. The media had the op research. They didn't run it during the Democratic primary because they needed a viable opposition to Clinton's nomination in order to run up the ratings. The stuff is out there, but you have to look for it. It's noting that would much bother you or me, but had he been nominated, it would be everywhere, and he would have posted McGovern level votes.

Doesn't matter now. trump has to run against Clinton. She has a ton of op research too. They'll run with all of it, but it's not fresh meat anymore. They've been throwing it at her for years. Let's hope Bernie is a man of his word and will help Clinton smear trump badly enough that we can scare republicans and blue dogs to the left with the numbers.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
160. You don't seem to understand
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jul 2016

how elections and politics work. The primary loser, loses and turns to help the winner. Or they become an impediment to change rather than a promoter of progress.

His speech now is getting there. A little late, but we'll see how he ends up.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
196. The last minutes were.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jul 2016

Our exchange began before that part of the speech. Curious that you didn't consider that or address the first half of his speech.

I didn't trash Bernie. I gave my opinion. I think he has had great proposals. I also think his ego got in the way of moving that agenda sometimes.

I'm glad he says he will campaign for Hillary. Let's hope he doesn't pull a Gene McCarthy. nixon was horrible. trump would be worse.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
173. Of course she didn't. She doesn't have a delegation to whip into line for the ticket.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jul 2016


Do you really think his speech would have been in any way effective if he hadn't acknowledged their work and their passion and their ideals?

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
183. He did finally get there.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jul 2016

But my initial turning away from Bernie (aside from his being un-electable) was his ego. I followed the first part of the primary wondering, but as he began to lose, he began to lose his ethos, his center. I guess a lot of it has to do with how much he reminds me of the old cranks who always crave the adoration that they used to get in their younger days, holding out for the glory.

He really knew that he couldn't be elected. He could have moved the party left sooner if he had stopped the whiny tit-for-tat and made a deal. The line between ego and moral certitude isn't all that fine.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
192. As a Hillary supporter....
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie needed to structure his speech exactly as he die. He needed to embrace his people, transition them gently and then show them that Hillary is there very best choice to achieve all of the objectives of his campaign.

Let's quit trying to refight the primaries, we have a general election to win.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
211. I applaud your faith.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jul 2016

I hope you are right. I remember when he country needed some humility from a reformer before and when it wasn't made available, we got nixon. I hope my fears are unfounded.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
212. I just wrote this in response to another Hillary supporter...
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jul 2016

.... who is worried about the 200,000 far left wing zealots on line:

There are 156,000,000 registered voters in this country. 200,000 zealots amounts to only 0.13% (a little more than one tenth of one percent of those voters). They are the people who would never have considered voting for a Democrat had someone like Sanders had not challenged for the nomination and they don't take orders from Sanders and never did.

Since Sanders stirred them up the zealots and gave them unfounded hope I expect the Green Party's share of the votes in November to climb from 0.36% of the total in 2012 to somewhat above 2% in November, maybe even 3%. But remember, had Sanders not appeared on the scene they would have probably sat on their hands and not voted. Well, voting for the Greens is exactly equivalent to not noting - so they will not be a factor one way or the other.

This election will not be affected by the zealots - what will affect this election is our ability to get out the vote. So forget about the zealots, contribute and work your ass off to GOTV.


If you are worried get out your pocket book or wallet and work your butt off and we will be fine.

Jakes Progress

(11,123 posts)
214. I'm not worried.
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 12:57 AM
Jul 2016

My pocket book and shoes are already in the game. I hope yours are too.

I just have a thing about willful ignorance.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
60. Impression?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jul 2016

Still an angry old man spewing his stump speech and waving his fingers...

Bring the right message soon Bernie...

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
189. Imagine how many are watching him for the first time, esp. Republicans.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jul 2016

We should have counted the head explosion moments ... I'm rating parts of it a head explosion per minute speech, at least.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
64. Go Bernie!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jul 2016

"This election is about and must be about the needs of the American people" right after he called out the media!

nolabear

(42,001 posts)
65. I have to say, these people are all "big picture" speech makers and that makes me proud.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jul 2016

If you can envision a big picture you can work together.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
88. Finally. "Hillary Clinton must become the next president of the United States."
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jul 2016

His people are still yelling, "Bernie, Bernie".

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
80. He is too selfish to fully
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:04 PM
Jul 2016

endorse her. I wonder if he really wants them with her. Booker should have been the last speaker.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
202. My appoligies for the remaks of my fellow Hillary supporter
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jul 2016

Some people don't know when to quit re-fighting the primaries. Seem my post below.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,932 posts)
204. Thank you. We should be done with all that,
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jul 2016

let bygones be bygones, and get busy and kick Trump's ugly orange ass.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
203. My apologizes for the remarks of my fellow Hillary supporter
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:21 AM
Jul 2016

Some people don't know when to quit re-fighting the primaries. Seem my post below.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
205. My apologizes for the remarks of my fellow Hillary supporter
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jul 2016

Some people don't know when to quit re-fighting the primaries. Seem my post below.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
200. As one Hillary supporter to another - STOP IT!!!!
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jul 2016

The fricking primaries are over - give it up! We are trying to win over Sanders supporters, not alienate them!

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
100. For sure!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jul 2016

I was 99.999999999% confident he was going to, but there was that tiny lit bit of "oh god, what if he doesn't?" We did not need a Cruz 2.0

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
101. what else would he say
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jul 2016

I have a hard time seeing how anyone who isn't driven to delusion by either hatred of HRC or hatred of Bernie could believe he would do anything other than endorse Clinton heartily.

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
108. I voted for him in the primary
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jul 2016

I love him. See my post 100. I was almost completely positive he was going to, but I also tend to be a worrier.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
123. Ah, I see ... I didn't mean to sound overly snarky
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jul 2016

and apologize if it came off that way.

I voted for him too. And I think what he's done in the last eight months has the chance to truly make our party and country much, much better.

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
140. No apologies needed...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jul 2016

Writing vs. talking is hard to get across nuances. I reread my post and could see where it could be taken negatively. I was just so happy when he got it out there and everyone could quit fretting.

Cheers right back!

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
103. I agree.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jul 2016

They should have ended with Cory Booker. He was much more uplifting. This is angry and shouting.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
191. Green Party voter?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:43 PM
Jul 2016

Yeah, well I was a green party voter 2000, 2004 and 2008, the first two times for Nader who was preaching getting money out of politics. He was a purist. Obama in 2008 was the first democratic candidate to eschew federal matching grants which accelerated the race for campaign funds which both Bernie and Hillary have embraced.

I also had the luxury of living in Illinois so my vote for a third party candidate would not affect the electoral vote.

But I understood the numbers and (as a math major undergrad and an attorney) I could. Voting is strategic, not gut. Unfortunately, there are far too many on this side who are political instead of strategic. I voted for Obama in 2012 when I felt there was a real chance Romney could win.

Purity is just bullshit.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,384 posts)
193. Voting should not be strategic, and there is no reason that it should be with ranked voting ballots.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jul 2016

The issue here is plurality voting in multi-candidate elections, not purity.

 

Whimsey

(236 posts)
195. I do not understand your post
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jul 2016

The issue NOW is getting a democrat elected. The primary is over. Vote democrat, republican, green or libertarian. But if your vote allows another party than your choice to win your state, than it is a strategic vote.

We do not have a parliamentary system. That is a fact.

GreenPartyVoter

(72,384 posts)
198. Let me explain. I live in Maine, my Governor, the illustrious tea partier Paul LePage gained
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

office twice because the left split the vote. Had we been offered ranked voting ballots, he very likely never would have won, because one of the center left candidates would have won, if not in round one then in round two.

My point is yes, right now we need to vote against Trump, but rather than live with the constant fear of split elections, let us address the issue in the future with ballot reforms.

Siwsan

(26,314 posts)
150. Oh, for pities sake!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jul 2016

Sometimes all I can do is shake my head. Maybe you should just change the channel.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
181. Yes,they do..
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jul 2016

When she accepts the nomination they want us to worship her. A vote is all she gets from me.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
111. Lay it out Bernie! Tell them exactly what this election is about!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jul 2016

He is telling his supporters why Hillary Clinton should be elected ... and explaining the Democratic platform is all about!

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
128. He is doing a great job of it.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jul 2016

We are so going to bury the Republicans. They got nothing but Hillary fear, which is paranoid, and psychotic hate. And lies.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
129. I think it is a great speech - a great speech is one who moves people
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jul 2016

and you are not the type of person he is trying to move.

onecaliberal

(32,954 posts)
174. 14 million people did NOT vote for warren Michelle or booker.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jul 2016

You want Bernie or bust to grow up, look in the mirror.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
116. He's trying
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jul 2016

A lot of his supporters though do not seem to be willing to go along with him (on supporting Hillary).

still_one

(92,488 posts)
121. Good speech. Acknowledging all the work of his supporters, and realizes what the stakes are, and is
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jul 2016

telling his supporters to do the right thing vote for Hillary in the general election


Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
125. Bernie is making the best case he can in support of Clinton, I guess.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:13 PM
Jul 2016

I'm in favor of anything that will calm his supporters.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
153. He is tying Hillary into every plank of his campaign
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jul 2016

He is telling his people that if you want to achieve his the aspirations of his campaign, you MUST support Hillary enthusiastically. He isn't a great speaker, but he is doing the job.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
132. I think he's doing great
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:15 PM
Jul 2016

He's weaving a tapestry to bring along his fans. I'm sorry if people dislike him so much that instant gratification is what they seek.

mvd

(65,180 posts)
135. Very good speech and a nice, clear endorsement
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:15 PM
Jul 2016

He is making a strong case to his supporters how Hillary would be a lot better than Trump.

True Dough

(17,355 posts)
143. Bernie has moved Hillary further to the left
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jul 2016

He's entitled to recap his campaign planks and the priorities he set with his supporters. Some call it ego, others call it passion.

lostnfound

(16,194 posts)
148. He's explaining to supporters ALL of the REASONS she should be supported.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:18 PM
Jul 2016

Might be hard to understand but some of us are issues voters.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
144. No Republican was able to talk about Trump like this...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jul 2016

Hillary has had all of her speakers back her up...including her opponent! Trump's speakers could barely utter his name.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
209. They felt compelled to kinda-sorta support him but wanted to keep the stench off.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jul 2016

Fortunately it doesn't work that way and the entire Repug Party has the stench of Trump on it.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
162. He is doing much better
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jul 2016

Will it be enough to stop the booing for the rest of the convention, and have his supporters help Clinton and give her the credit she deserves.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
165. "Hillary will make an outstanding president and I am proud to stand with her tonight."
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jul 2016

Good closing line.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
178. I don't think so
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

But if Stein steals away enough votes in key states to cause Hillary to lose, the Green party will have signed its own death notice

tandot

(6,671 posts)
172. I was really getting pissed off by the BoB people
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jul 2016

But hearing Bernie tonight, I think he'll be a great asset to the Democratic Party

yuiyoshida

(41,868 posts)
185. Its called emotional investment
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jul 2016

in someone who I believe had our best interests at heart. I supported him all though the campaign, and now I will follow him to help make Hillary our next President.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
186. I was moved to tears by the power of Bernie's speech as well as by sorrow that we.....
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jul 2016

......didn't get Bernie as our candidate.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
188. I thought it was a pretty classy speech
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jul 2016

Considering some of the crap he just found out about.

He could have taken it personally but instead he cared more about the issues he supported than the way the DNC treated him.

onecaliberal

(32,954 posts)
197. To all you Bernie bashers, you are NO better than the Bernie or bust people.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jul 2016

Grow the fuck up and take yes for an answer.

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