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Smoking Gun Found in DNC Hack (Original Post) BlueStateLib Jul 2016 OP
Looking like the GOP is working to take Trump down itsrobert Jul 2016 #1
Where is McCain? rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #27
The source is a big concern. TDale313 Jul 2016 #2
With the source confimed, the content is no longer reliable kcr Jul 2016 #4
Sorry, but no. TDale313 Jul 2016 #5
Hardly kcr Jul 2016 #9
You underestimate the severity of the issue. sofa king Jul 2016 #11
Trump is now receiving national security briefings right? workinclasszero Jul 2016 #24
^^^This rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #28
And I think Trump just gave us the one piece: sofa king Jul 2016 #31
The source isn't confirmed, but the content is confirmed. bananas Jul 2016 #8
There is a current FBI investigation. No one is confirming or denying any content. A lack of denial pnwmom Jul 2016 #13
The apologies confirm the content. nt bananas Jul 2016 #15
The only apology I have heard of is the one for Brad Marshall's email. pnwmom Jul 2016 #16
Donna Brazile is another bananas Jul 2016 #21
Sorry, I'm not going to listen to a 12 minute video hoping I hear a specific answer. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #30
Not necessarily. How many times have Democrats overreacted and... JaneyVee Jul 2016 #19
Acorn LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #23
Makes you wonder if this madaboutharry Jul 2016 #3
Finally a mainstream TV network is covering this issue wishstar Jul 2016 #6
Malware code IP address of a computer in Russia that was used before. That's a smoking gun? L. Coyote Jul 2016 #14
Trump's Russian financial ties is why workinclasszero Jul 2016 #25
Oh shit Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #7
Drip, Drip, Drip..... FrenchieCat Jul 2016 #10
This story really has legs! Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #12
Kick. His. Ass. Hekate Jul 2016 #17
That's all we need for our country.. putin's lap dog in the white house. Cha Jul 2016 #18
This has more reality to it than all of Trump's accusations. If a President Trump de-powered NATO, OnDoutside Jul 2016 #20
Much bigger indeed workinclasszero Jul 2016 #26
Paul Managort looked like he was lying in this video UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #22
Nixon and his aids all lied in Watergate too liberal N proud Jul 2016 #29
I hope some are tweeting this. I rec'd at google with comment. anamandujano Jul 2016 #32

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
2. The source is a big concern.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jul 2016

But so is the content, and the DNC has not denied that these are accurate, and were quick to apologize.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
4. With the source confimed, the content is no longer reliable
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:09 PM
Jul 2016

The DNC was in a hard place. There were a lot of people painting anyone who claimed it was the Russians as paranoid.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
5. Sorry, but no.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jul 2016

Trust me, if they were inaccurate in any substantive way the DNC would have been screaming that from the rafters.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
9. Hardly
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)

For one thing, I think Dems are terrified of the media and are all too quick to roll over. It happens all the time. For another thing, cherry picked, one sided data dumps meant to manipulate outcomes should absolutely be questioned at the very least, and you cannot read it without that context. I'm not saying that you absolutely have to disregard all data from such leaks. But they absolutely are suspect by their nature.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
11. You underestimate the severity of the issue.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jul 2016

If there is just one piece of evidence that links the Trump campaign directly with the Russians, this becomes an espionage case, the most serious one the United States has ever confronted.

The hack involves an election that selects our Commander in Chief, the person in ultimate charge of the nuclear arsenal, which makes the hack by a foreign power an issue of the highest possible national defense priority.

Those who were hacked are under the gun, too. If any of them compromise the investigation by pointing out inaccuracies, it's curtains for their careers, and it may even make them accomplices. In espionage cases, accomplices are to be punished according to the penalties for the crime itself, which can include life imprisonment.

Those who colluded, cooperated, or jumped out of the way are probably starting to realize that this ain't gonna be a civil suit. The aggrieved is Uncle Sam, who is conducting an investigation that goes beyond the criminal into the stratosphere of high crimes.

Take a jaw-dropping look:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793

Seriously, if this goes the way I think it's headed, Hillary Clinton won't be debating Donald Trump at all. She will be debating another person entirely, or nobody at all. If Trump was personally involved in any way, he's going to prison for the rest of his life.





 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. Trump is now receiving national security briefings right?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jul 2016

How can they trust him with that information?

They might as well give the briefings to Putin and cut out the middle man (Trump)!

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
31. And I think Trump just gave us the one piece:
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jul 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141532834

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump told reporters Wednesday morning at Trump National Doral Miami. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
13. There is a current FBI investigation. No one is confirming or denying any content. A lack of denial
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jul 2016

doesn't constitute a confirmation.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
16. The only apology I have heard of is the one for Brad Marshall's email.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jul 2016

What specifics do you have for any other apologies?

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
19. Not necessarily. How many times have Democrats overreacted and...
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 02:53 AM
Jul 2016

Threw people under the bus? Shirley Sharrod, Van Jones, a few others recently I forgot.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
6. Finally a mainstream TV network is covering this issue
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

The Washington Post reported on Trump's Russian financial ties over a month ago but tonight's ABC broadcast was the first I have seen on TV news.


Seems like I recall Paul Manafort saying that the suggestion of Melania's plagiarism was "Absurd" too

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
14. Malware code IP address of a computer in Russia that was used before. That's a smoking gun?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jul 2016

Maybe a smoking gun of a diversion to point away from the guilty party. Hacking is a criminal act, not the same as leaking. You want to cover your tracks, maybe even implicate someone else.

I assume the malware code is what is assumed to have enabled the hack. We need a good tech article on this, not a MSM spin machine covering it.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
20. This has more reality to it than all of Trump's accusations. If a President Trump de-powered NATO,
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 06:30 AM
Jul 2016

it leaves the door open for Putin to not only re-annexe Ukraine, put also to push on and threaten other former Russian controlled countries like Poland and the Baltic States.

There is a much bigger game here.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
22. Paul Managort looked like he was lying in this video
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jul 2016

Paul Managort kept blinking his eyes and looked down to the ground when asked if he had something to do with the email hacks. He could not even look up and maintain eye contact.

liberal N proud

(60,338 posts)
29. Nixon and his aids all lied in Watergate too
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:21 AM
Jul 2016

But this is much bigger and has a much more serious consequence should Trump get elected and is connected to Putin.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
32. I hope some are tweeting this. I rec'd at google with comment.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

We need to goad the media into doing their jobs instead of kissing repuke @ss.

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