Nina Turner's credentials revoked?

[SpareribSP]

Last edited Wed Jul 27, 2016, 01:14 AM - Edit history (3)

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/07/26/nina-turner-prominent-sanders-delegate-ejected-dnc

Interesting, wonder what happened.

Edit: Looking around, seems like 800 Bernie people were denied entry today, after the walk out and such.

Edit 2: Hard to tell what exactly happened in numbers because I can't find a definitive source, some people lost credentials, Nina Turner for sure.

Edit 3: https://twitter.com/BenJealous - says this is false!

[helpisontheway]

1. Good! She is awful! Nt

[metroins]

23. This.

Her actions help Trump.

[onecaliberal]

2. She's tweeting that she still has her credentials.

[SpareribSP]

20. I don't see that?

[one_voice]

28. I don't see that.

[TDale313]

3. Link implies she wouldn't endorse. n/t

[gaspee]

4. Good

It is Hilary's convention and if she can't get onboard, then she has no business being given a forum

[baldguy]

5. Good.

If she wasn't going to support the Democratic nominee at the Democratic National Convention, she is not a Democrat and had no business being there.

[LiberalFighter]

6. Not sure if I got full details

But apparently she was going to be part of endorsement or something but refused to support Hillary.

[bravenak]

7. GOOD for the DNC

Nina did this to her own self

[fun n serious]

8. She has been saying she is not a democrat anymore...

This is a party for democrats. I hope they do revooke her. She has been romancing the green...

[bravenak]

9. Yep. I say 'bye!'

She can go to the greens if she hates us so much. Lets see them help her political career

[appal_jack]

38. I'll be sure to book mark this post.

Will your tune change come November when Hillary needs every vote possible and the margins are razor-thin? Because this bullshit will insure that the margins won't be wide...

-app

[bravenak]

40. Oh no not an empty threat!!!!

Bookmark whatever you want. I dont gaf

[fun n serious]

48. I love you Bravenak

[bravenak]

49. Love you too, fun

[fun n serious]

45. I've been hearing that all year...

Yes, Hillary needs every vote but those votes are LONG gone. All the cradling in the world won't help. We've tried. Hillary has tried. It's become exhausting.

[LexVegas]

47. ...

[Greywing]

11. I'll go a step further and say if those delegates who keep walking out with tape on their mouth

and re-entering to boo and cause disruption should leave. They did their job in casting their vote and if they are too upset to join in a common goal then they should make their big statement by going home.

[democrattotheend]

32. Is she a delegate?

If so, her credentials should not be revoked unless she is booing or otherwise being disruptive on the floor.

[genna]

71. I specifically heard her say on MSNBC that she is a LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT

Where did you get your information?

[3hummingbirds]

10. Nina Turner

Nina Turner is a well respected legislator. Just because she is not a Hillary supporter, she should not have been ejected. Kind of shows the hypocrisy in politics.

[geek tragedy]

14. Perhaps you're confused with the purpose of a PARTY convention.

Trying to defeat the party's nominee makes you instantly persona non grata.

[StraightRazor]

58. Uh, she's a Democrat...

and served as a Democratic Senator, so...yeah.

Talk about a circular firing squad.

[geek tragedy]

59. So was Zell Miller nt

[Dem2]

17. She's been harsh and bitter

I found it excessive and unhelpful to Democrats attempting to form a unified ticket.

[notadmblnd]

27. Hows about an example of her harsh bitterness?

If her bitterness is indeed excessive, there should be more than enough cites you can point me to?

[Greywing]

18. I'll wait for the facts rather than believing a bunch of people speculating

[lapucelle]

19. Turner was on MSNBC all day

sowing discord. You can only push it so far before you break convention rules.

[Cali_Democrat]

30. Unfortunately she has killed her career

It's a shame.

[Demsrule86]

68. She has...She will never be elected in Ohio I like Nina ...so very sad

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Democrats won't vote for her here and Republicans have always disliked her.

[DURHAM D]

41. No she is not a legislator or respected. nt

[fun n serious]

50. Most of Bernie surrogates are great..

Symone Sanders. She is one respected classy lady. I like her

[calimary]

60. I believe she's a former legislator.

Former state senator from Missouri, I think. First distinguished herself during the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson MO, but since then she's grown more and more overbearing and in-yer-face. And while the general vibe has been to try to tone down all the vapors and the heat, she seemed grimly determined to amp it up the other way, just piling on the negativity and the irritation, just hellbent on trying to stir shit up.

It's a shame, because the Democratic Convention reached a really nice turning point today - what with Bernie's gesture in the Vermont delegation, and the effusive acknowledgement of all those Bernie supporters - noting that state-by-state, one of his surrogates had the microphone to salute him, praise him, and announce his vote totals. I believe it was Nina Turner who groused yesterday that there'd been no acknowledgement of their side or their people. I honestly don't see how the facts back that up, especially today. EVERYBODY was part of the party. Bernie was celebrated in all 50 states and territories and DC. Cheered, given his place in the spotlight, plenty of Q&As with his supporters who the floor reporters seemed to seek out to the exclusion of anyone else, including Hillary supporters.

I kept waiting for somebody to shush those rude hecklers who yelled over John Lewis, Elijah Cummings, and Cory Booker. SUCH disrespect. What was so DOGGONE important that they felt they had to be rude like that? SHAME on them!!! If they got ejected or had their credentials yanked, I'd jump for joy!

This was a genuine feel-good evening with a big-time gesture by Bernie at the end. Do we always have to have somebody peeing in the pickle barrel? We get so few upbeat evenings like this, particularly in the news. Why ruin it? Why should a few try to ruin it for the vast majority of attendees who had so much to celebrate - while making history too?

Even someone who simply MUST yell all the time - has to stop and take a breath every so often.

[DURHAM D]

63. She is a former state legislator but she no longer is.

She ran for state wide office and apparently ran a very poor campaign and lost but had already burned her bridges with the state party.

[genna]

73. Ohio

She came to the national scene when Ohio started suppressing the vote especially the black vote by closing voting places and changing voting times so Black people couldn't do Sunday 'souls to the polls' voting drives.

[ymetca]

78. How "uppity" of her...

How quickly we turn on each other, we hypocrites of fear...

[NYC Liberal]

62. If she is not a Hillary supporter now, then she is a Trump supporter.

Trump supporters should be kicked the hell out of the DEMOCRATIC convention, and the doors locked behind them.

[ymetca]

79. W himself

... couldn't have said it better.

[politicaljunkie41910]

82. She's no longer a legislature. She ran for State Senator and lost.

[geek tragedy]

12. Bye Felicia nt

[lapucelle]

13. There was a group of Sanders delegates who wanted to nominate her for VP earlier today.

[Metric System]

31. Oh God. When I heard that story I just knew she was their mystery VP.

[Thrill]

15. Good. She wouldn't endorse Hillary

This is the Dem Convention

[woolldog]

16. Ahhh Buh bye

[timlot]

21. Ohh. I hope so.

[LexVegas]

22. Good if true. nt

[onehandle]

24. Good. nt

[FarPoint]

25. Good..

[R B Garr]

26. Good. Bye.

[comradebillyboy]

61. Ray Charles at his best, how fitting for this occasion...

[AgadorSparticus]

29. FINALLY!!

[geek tragedy]

33. LMAO. Rosario Dawson hits the cutting room floor.

The source, familiar with some of the details but not authorized to discuss them, said the DNC also cut Turner and another prominent and effective surrogate, actress Rosario Dawson, from the promotional video that aired just before Sanders' Monday night speech. Sanders reportedly fought the moves, but was not able to overturn the decision.

[genna]

74. I think the best way to handle disagreement is to talk it out to get to a settled position

I wonder if unity means having one opinion. Bernie Sanders did what he needed to do to help Hillary Clinton get an open ear to his die hard supporters similar to what Hillary Clinton did in 2008 for Barack Obama.

I remember how upset the PUMA groups were but people kept saying they would come around. It's good to see when the shoe is on the other foot, the logic fits here. It was a rough period of time watching some of the posts from those PUMAs. I think it is harder to read the people who can't win graciously.

[geek tragedy]

75. in general yes, but Dawson supports Jill Stein and has used Lewinsky attacks

against Hillary this year as well as suggesting Clinton is a criminal.

She's not someone to be talked to inside the house, but rather kicked to the curb. She's an enemy.

[appal_jack]

34. Absolute wtf!?!

This is NOT the way to unite the progressive electorate, DNC people!

Short of her brandishing a deadly weapon, there is NO reason to do this at this stage. Did they not see her going to bat for Hillary and the DNC a scant 24 hours ago saying "No one stole the election"?

Perhaps she is now reconsidering.

k&r,

ON-EDIT - leftofcool has helpfully pointed out below that this post of mine confuses Nina Turner and Symone Sanders. My mistake. I am still not at all sure that ejecting Nina Turner was a good idea, but no "going to bat" credit belongs to her, apparently.

-app

[SpareribSP]

36. Looks like 800 people were denied entry.

Seems like they've cracked down a bit.

Edit: Seems like these were largely Bernie "Super Volunteers" and the number seems a bit disputed, hard to find facts right now.

[leftofcool]

37. Nina never said that, it was Symone Sanders who said it.

Nina was on MSNBC all day bashing Democrats, the DNC, Hillary and Hillary's supporters. She flat out stated she would not endorse Hillary. Why does she need to be at our Convention?

[appal_jack]

42. My mistake. I will edit above.

I am not watching TV, and only absorbing events through the net. Keeping all the details straight is getting difficult! I apologize for my confusion, and thank you for the correction.

-app

[leftofcool]

46. No problem. I know what you mean

If the talking heads (Todd, Maddow, Williams, Tur etal...) didn't feel it was their "duty" to interview 1000 people a day over every little thing said, the rest of us would be less confused.

[MoonRiver]

70. Why does she even WANT to be there?

I do not understand why people who apparently hate Dems so much, want to hang out with us.

[bravenak]

44. Do ALL of us black women look exactly alike? NO

That was SYMONE SANDERS (no relation)

[fun n serious]

51. Symone is beautiful.

[bravenak]

52. Yes, her smile is lovely too

[fun n serious]

55. She's so kind and genuine

[SidDithers]

35. DU rec...

Sid

[one_voice]

39. My understanding is those people wanted

to gain re-entry **after** walking out in protest. I wouldn't have let them back in either. protest first then come in. It's not a revolving door.

I understand the passion and how hard it is to let go but some consideration needs to be given to people that came along way to enjoy the convention.

[workinclasszero]

43. I hope thats true!

[chillfactor]

53. about time....

and a few more should have their asses kicked out as well...you are either a Democrat and support the ticket or are a rebel rouser who has no business sitting in on the convention.

[still_one]

54. Based on that, and her twitter page she would not endorse Hillary. Her actions are a major insult

to Bernie Sanders, and the Democratic party who just choose a nominee.

So now she can join Cornell West and Jill Stein, and become irrelevant, while those who remain, will work to move the party toward more progressive positions

[Gothmog]

56. One advantage of being a delegate is that i get to ignore media coversge

I have several friends who gave up on MSNBC. I have heard that she has been on far too many times

[nolabear]

57. Ben Jealous tweeting at the link that the story is false.

[calimary]

65. Got it.

Maybe that's why there was no mention of it. You'd expect it'd get some sort of mention elsewhere. And that she would certainly express plenty of outrage and start making a fuss about it.

GOOD. Glad it wasn't true.

[riderinthestorm]

64. Ugh. If true this is a disastrous move. :(

[Kahuna]

66. According to Ben Jealous, she wasn't..but!

She endorsed jill stein so why was she even there?

[SaschaHM]

67. Well, the verdict is out on whether this is true or not, but...

if it is, good. We now have a nominee and the Convention is now about her and the rest of the ticket. If you don't support it, then you shouldn't be in the hall to disrupt. The Democratic Party does not have to give you a platform from which to protest on national television. There are designated spaces for that outside of the venue.

[OnDoutside]

69. Yes, last night was the line in the sand. If you cannot get behind the party's nominee, after last

night, that's one thing. It's not great, but if you vocally (or otherwise), publicly oppose the Nominee, you have NO business being in the Democratic Party, and most certainly should not be allowed to remain at the Convention.

This isn't student politics where there are no consequences, this is grown up stuff.

[Paladin]

72. I hope all of it is true, especially as to Nina Turner. (nt)

[emulatorloo]

76. As you note in 3, Ben Jealous says commondreams story isn't true.

[LisaM]

77. Commondreams has gone a little off the rails

Eight years or so ago, I liked them and thought that their articles were, while definitely leaning pretty hard left, were at least backed up by facts. I don't trust them as a source at all anymore.

[emulatorloo]

80. Enjoy their articles but always take them with a huge grain of salt.

Given their hostility towards democrats.

[Stellar]

81. glad to hear that it's false! Always liked Nina's passion. nt

[lapucelle]

83. Some of the people privileged to hold credentials

have no idea how these things work. And they're forgetting that they represent the Sanders voters who gave them that privilege, not themselves alone and not a one fringe faction.

https://theintercept.com/2016/07/27/bernie-sanders-delegates-complain-of-disrespect-on-democratic-convention-floor/

The complaints of the entitled aggrieved remind me of this

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/hillary-clinton-is-too-ambitious-to-be-the-first-f-11229