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riversedge

(70,228 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:27 AM Jul 2016

A 10-point SWING: Democrats Surging As Hillary Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missou

Ah. so nice.
Look at grumpy Trump in his goofy hat. haha






A 10-point SWING: Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri

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A 10-point SWING: Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri http://www.politicususa.com/2016/07/29/democrats-surging-hillary-clinton-takes-lead-trump-red-state-missouri.html






Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri

By Jason Easley on Fri, Jul 29th, 2016 at 3:22 pm

A new poll of Missouri shows real trouble brewing for Republicans as Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by a single point in a state that Mitt Romney won by ten points in 2012.

Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri

A new poll of Missouri shows real trouble brewing for Republicans as Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by a single point in a state that Mitt Romney won by ten points in 2012.

Mason-Dixon Polling found that Trump is losing in a state that President Obama lost in 2008 and 2012. Technically, the results are a statistical tie, but Trump is underperforming Romney by eleven points in a state that Republicans thought they could count on in November. The two main issues for Trump in Missouri are that he is less popular than Clinton in the state and that he is getting less Republican support than Clinton is getting Democratic support.........................






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A 10-point SWING: Democrats Surging As Hillary Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missou (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2016 OP
The poll was even pre Democratic convention molova Jul 2016 #1
OMG! workinclasszero Jul 2016 #6
I don't buy this one rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #2
We live overseas for now but are Georgia residents piechartking Jul 2016 #3
Yeah I told those telling GA voters they could 'protest' vote to knock it off. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #5
Why do so many refuse to 'buy' good news? Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #4
Some are just negative nellies by nature Mr Maru Jul 2016 #8
I agree completely nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #30
Probably because there was a poll out yesterday in MO.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #13
What poll? nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #28
It was a local one by a tv station. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #32
Because one poll isn't news rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #14
But bad news means hysteria and hand wringing with a soupcon of 'we told you so" Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #26
Yes I've noticed rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #29
Some people are here to post their concern about Clinton Democat Jul 2016 #19
I have noticed that too. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #22
I don't claim to know Missouri well, but I could buy it... WIProgressive88 Jul 2016 #12
And Tim Kaine is an alum of Mizzou Lisa D Jul 2016 #7
Columbia is a dem hotbed in redstate Missouri too workinclasszero Jul 2016 #15
Grew up in Overland Park, KS, just across the MO-KS line.... lastlib Jul 2016 #17
Before our convention workinclasszero Jul 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Jul 2016 #33
and this IS a month before Labor Day........ a kennedy Jul 2016 #9
I think it's safe to say it now: sofa king Jul 2016 #10
Post convention polls tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #11
Even Texas might be in real play for Clinton. Amimnoch Jul 2016 #16
I can't believe they were ugly to his wife. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #24
she's gonna crush him ... shireen Jul 2016 #18
Complacency is our biggest enemy. B Calm Jul 2016 #20
Absolutely agree B Calm! n/t radical noodle Jul 2016 #31
This is a single online poll from a company that has only existed for a few months oberliner Jul 2016 #23
The media wants a horse race Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #25
K & R Scurrilous Jul 2016 #27
 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
2. I don't buy this one
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:37 AM
Jul 2016

I know Missouri pretty well. I'd love it to be true but suspect soemthing is off with this one.

If she's tied in Missouri though, this thing is over.

piechartking

(617 posts)
3. We live overseas for now but are Georgia residents
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jul 2016

And we are SO EXCITED about Georgia poll numbers. Wouldn't it be something if Trump has to defend MO and GA? My God, I can't even imagine if Trump LOST MO or GA...that would be like Xmas coming early.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
5. Yeah I told those telling GA voters they could 'protest' vote to knock it off.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jul 2016

This year, we need all hands on deck. We don't know in this very unusual election which states may play a key role. Also, the popular vote is very important for a mandate...what are the 'protesting' anyway? We have the most progressive platform ever. And despite what they say, Hillary is a liberal/progressive.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
4. Why do so many refuse to 'buy' good news?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jul 2016

But are completely in agreement and concerned about all bad news. Missouri has a Democratic governor you know.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
14. Because one poll isn't news
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:08 PM
Jul 2016

And if it looks like an outlier it's a bad idea to get overly excited and relax our guard.

Hillary is not winning in Missouri unless she's ten points ahead nationally. No averages show any such thing. This is a single snapshot not "good news."

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
26. But bad news means hysteria and hand wringing with a soupcon of 'we told you so"
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:04 PM
Jul 2016

And that can be one poll even with others showing good news...not saying you but it is happening here quite often.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
29. Yes I've noticed
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jul 2016

Last week when a few bad polls came out you'd have thought the sky was falling even though everyone knew there would be a modest RNC bounce.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
22. I have noticed that too.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:57 PM
Jul 2016

Bad news means the sky is falling...good news is simply 'not believable'.

WIProgressive88

(314 posts)
12. I don't claim to know Missouri well, but I could buy it...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jul 2016

I mean, I feel like eventually it's going to sink in with many voters, even with some Republicans and conservative-leaning independents, that one candidate is extremely qualified, both in experience and temperament, while the other is an unhinged loose-cannon who has the potential to do irreparable damage to our country. There's only one responsible choice, and I think people are eventually going to see that.

lastlib

(23,237 posts)
17. Grew up in Overland Park, KS, just across the MO-KS line....
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:48 PM
Jul 2016

Went to Rockhurst High School (a private Jesuit Catholic boys' school), graduated summa cum laude University of Missouri (Columbia) with a BA degree in economics.

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #21)

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
9. and this IS a month before Labor Day........
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jul 2016

don't really even pay attention to polls until Labor Day......and that's a month away. But, if these numbers hold up or EVEN get better, then...... it, could be a wrap.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
10. I think it's safe to say it now:
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jul 2016

In modern history, the candidate leading at the end of July, even if only within the margin of error, usually goes on to win the election, with two notable exceptions:

* Democrats running behind in July still have a chance to win. Examples: Kennedy, Bill Clinton;

* George W. Bush can still get close enough to steal it (2004).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_U.S._Presidential_elections

It's important to note that I think that the way the leading candidate at the July/August cusp almost invariably begins to pull ahead is through superior organization and harder work. The combination of better fundraising, message control, and a stronger ground game begins to pay off, and this year we've got that market cornered, thanks in so small part to many of you.

We can win this, and win big. We need to, nay, MUST win this, and subsequent off-term elections, because now we've got a solid Korps of autocratic neoFascists who will from now on seek to erode our democracy at its base, by wearing out the electorate. They pulled it off a dozen times in the 20th Century in at least as many parliamentary democracies, but it simply cannot be permitted in the nuclear 21st.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
16. Even Texas might be in real play for Clinton.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

As of the last Polls, Trump still leads, but by a VERY narrow margin for Texas:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton-5694.html

The disrespect that Cruz got during the Republican side show.. I mean convention.. Lost him a LOT of support here by what would normally have been his base.

Kaine is polling very well here conversely.

Energized Democrat base in Dallas/Austin/Houston/San Antonio plus energized Latino majority communities in South Texas.. This is probably the most "purple" Texas has ever been.

I can't wait to see the post convention numbers.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
24. I can't believe they were ugly to his wife.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

I mean Cruz should not have put her in that position, but I was surprised at the behavior of the GOP delegates...disgraceful.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. This is a single online poll from a company that has only existed for a few months
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:00 PM
Jul 2016

Please keep that in mind.

We will have a better sense of where things stand poll-wise on Monday when a bunch of them should come out.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
25. The media wants a horse race
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jul 2016

So take all polls with a grain of salt...look at the Romney polls which were way off in most cases.

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