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A 10-point SWING: Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri
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A 10-point SWING: Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri http://www.politicususa.com/2016/07/29/democrats-surging-hillary-clinton-takes-lead-trump-red-state-missouri.html
Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri
By Jason Easley on Fri, Jul 29th, 2016 at 3:22 pm
A new poll of Missouri shows real trouble brewing for Republicans as Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by a single point in a state that Mitt Romney won by ten points in 2012.
Democrats Surging As Hillary Clinton Takes The Lead Over Trump In Red State Missouri
A new poll of Missouri shows real trouble brewing for Republicans as Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by a single point in a state that Mitt Romney won by ten points in 2012.
Mason-Dixon Polling found that Trump is losing in a state that President Obama lost in 2008 and 2012. Technically, the results are a statistical tie, but Trump is underperforming Romney by eleven points in a state that Republicans thought they could count on in November. The two main issues for Trump in Missouri are that he is less popular than Clinton in the state and that he is getting less Republican support than Clinton is getting Democratic support.........................
molova
(543 posts)Great news.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Its GOT TO be greater than that now!
Go Hillary!!
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)I know Missouri pretty well. I'd love it to be true but suspect soemthing is off with this one.
If she's tied in Missouri though, this thing is over.
piechartking
(617 posts)And we are SO EXCITED about Georgia poll numbers. Wouldn't it be something if Trump has to defend MO and GA? My God, I can't even imagine if Trump LOST MO or GA...that would be like Xmas coming early.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)This year, we need all hands on deck. We don't know in this very unusual election which states may play a key role. Also, the popular vote is very important for a mandate...what are the 'protesting' anyway? We have the most progressive platform ever. And despite what they say, Hillary is a liberal/progressive.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)But are completely in agreement and concerned about all bad news. Missouri has a Democratic governor you know.
Mr Maru
(216 posts)A few are genuine. The rest probably want Trump to win.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....that had her behind 10.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)It was not a Mason/Dixon poll.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)And if it looks like an outlier it's a bad idea to get overly excited and relax our guard.
Hillary is not winning in Missouri unless she's ten points ahead nationally. No averages show any such thing. This is a single snapshot not "good news."
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)And that can be one poll even with others showing good news...not saying you but it is happening here quite often.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Last week when a few bad polls came out you'd have thought the sky was falling even though everyone knew there would be a modest RNC bounce.
Democat
(11,617 posts)They do it over and over again.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)Bad news means the sky is falling...good news is simply 'not believable'.
WIProgressive88
(314 posts)I mean, I feel like eventually it's going to sink in with many voters, even with some Republicans and conservative-leaning independents, that one candidate is extremely qualified, both in experience and temperament, while the other is an unhinged loose-cannon who has the potential to do irreparable damage to our country. There's only one responsible choice, and I think people are eventually going to see that.
Lisa D
(1,532 posts)which doesn't hurt either.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)lastlib
(23,237 posts)Went to Rockhurst High School (a private Jesuit Catholic boys' school), graduated summa cum laude University of Missouri (Columbia) with a BA degree in economics.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I had no idea Tim was ever in the KC area or went to Mizzou.
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a kennedy
(29,663 posts)don't really even pay attention to polls until Labor Day......and that's a month away. But, if these numbers hold up or EVEN get better, then...... it, could be a wrap.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)In modern history, the candidate leading at the end of July, even if only within the margin of error, usually goes on to win the election, with two notable exceptions:
* Democrats running behind in July still have a chance to win. Examples: Kennedy, Bill Clinton;
* George W. Bush can still get close enough to steal it (2004).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_U.S._Presidential_elections
It's important to note that I think that the way the leading candidate at the July/August cusp almost invariably begins to pull ahead is through superior organization and harder work. The combination of better fundraising, message control, and a stronger ground game begins to pay off, and this year we've got that market cornered, thanks in so small part to many of you.
We can win this, and win big. We need to, nay, MUST win this, and subsequent off-term elections, because now we've got a solid Korps of autocratic neoFascists who will from now on seek to erode our democracy at its base, by wearing out the electorate. They pulled it off a dozen times in the 20th Century in at least as many parliamentary democracies, but it simply cannot be permitted in the nuclear 21st.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)are going to be exciting...at least I hope!!!
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)As of the last Polls, Trump still leads, but by a VERY narrow margin for Texas:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_trump_vs_clinton-5694.html
The disrespect that Cruz got during the Republican side show.. I mean convention.. Lost him a LOT of support here by what would normally have been his base.
Kaine is polling very well here conversely.
Energized Democrat base in Dallas/Austin/Houston/San Antonio plus energized Latino majority communities in South Texas.. This is probably the most "purple" Texas has ever been.
I can't wait to see the post convention numbers.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)I mean Cruz should not have put her in that position, but I was surprised at the behavior of the GOP delegates...disgraceful.
shireen
(8,333 posts)Dont pay attention to polls.
He does not stand a chance!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Please keep that in mind.
We will have a better sense of where things stand poll-wise on Monday when a bunch of them should come out.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)So take all polls with a grain of salt...look at the Romney polls which were way off in most cases.