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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:39 PM Jul 2016

WaPo - God might not want a woman to be president, some religious conservatives say

The interesting thing is that both Israel and Pakistan have had women Prime Ministers, yet in the U.S., some evangelicals are still opposed to the idea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/07/20/god-might-not-want-a-woman-to-be-president-some-religious-conservatives-say/

Clinton is poised to be nominated for president by the Democratic Party next week. And so religious hard-liners of all faiths — the most conservative Christians, Muslims and Jews — are debating: Do their Scriptures prohibit a female president?

They point out passages in the Bible: Eve’s origin as subordinate to Adam; the Old Testament leader Deborah’s implication that it was shameful that she had to step up to lead the Israelites when male leaders faltered; the New Testament verses that say “the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church.”

“The Old Testament is very clear that Yahweh desires men to lead,” said Owen Strachan before he stepped down last week as president of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. The purpose of the organization — to insist on separate roles for men and women in modern life — is itself an unpopular view, Strachan acknowledged upfront. “I do stand for a culturally despised position.”

But he believes the Bible has laid out spheres for men and for women that should last for all time. “A good number of evangelicals would probably prefer to see men lead in the political arena, and I would be one of them,” Strachan said. “Many evangelicals would say that men need to be the ones who step up and take responsibility, not simply for the home and the church, but also for the community.”
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WaPo - God might not want a woman to be president, some religious conservatives say (Original Post) TomCADem Jul 2016 OP
A woman's place is in the home is what they will tell you liberal N proud Jul 2016 #1
Rutgers-Eagleton Center for American Women and Politics... 45% of women vote paternalistic. TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #24
Let them move to the Middle East, where that kind of thinking still sells ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2016 #2
Pick and Chose Old Testiment Grassy Knoll Jul 2016 #3
Is this the same God that wants Donald Trump as President? SummerSnow Jul 2016 #4
I know, right? sarae Jul 2016 #19
God didn't want Golda Mier or Margaret Thatcher? Ilsa Jul 2016 #5
Well, they had no problem with Sarah Palin as 2nd in line. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #22
Expect pence to recite this article, I'm sure, when asiliveandbreathe Jul 2016 #6
If She doesn't want a woman to be President, She can appear publicly and The Second Stone Jul 2016 #7
This. Arkansas Granny Jul 2016 #9
She gave me enough empathy for people that I'm a lifelong The Second Stone Jul 2016 #10
I'm sure they voted for Obama over McCain in '08 Zambero Jul 2016 #8
Religious people should pore over their scriptures critically ... dawg Jul 2016 #11
And some probably believed that "God didn't want a black man to be POTUS" as well. Pffft. nt Tarheel_Dem Jul 2016 #12
It's even worse then that duncang Jul 2016 #13
Their interpretation of the bible is incorrect. kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #14
Home grown Ayatollahs Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2016 #15
pffft DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #16
+1000000 sarae Jul 2016 #20
he should check the constitution treestar Jul 2016 #17
If God doesn't want Hillary to be president, then I imagine he can prevent it. thesquanderer Jul 2016 #18
God isn't Russian meow2u3 Jul 2016 #21
Sharia Law, Christian version oberliner Jul 2016 #23
God might not want religious conservatives putting their words in his mouth, either DFW Jul 2016 #25
The Bible = 100% MAKE BELIEVE. stopbush Jul 2016 #26
But oh, they'd certainly make an exception for Sarah Palin . . . . . . no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #27
Oh, fuck that noise. forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #28

TheBlackAdder

(28,203 posts)
24. Rutgers-Eagleton Center for American Women and Politics... 45% of women vote paternalistic.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jul 2016

.


The only university center specializing in the subject of Women and Politics:

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/


That same percentage voted against the Equal Rights Amendment.

There are a lot of people living under the umbrella of evangelical and orthodox religions.

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/resources/ggpresvote.pdf


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eppur_se_muova

(36,263 posts)
2. Let them move to the Middle East, where that kind of thinking still sells ...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jul 2016

then they can vote for whoever they're allowed to, if anybody.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
5. God didn't want Golda Mier or Margaret Thatcher?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jul 2016

I would think these conservatives love these women.

It's just more sexist crap.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
22. Well, they had no problem with Sarah Palin as 2nd in line.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:17 PM
Jul 2016

It's more hypocrisy than sexism. If McCain had won, and then dropped dead while in office, I don't think they would have scoured their scriptures looking for passages to use to rationalize Palin not replacing him.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. Expect pence to recite this article, I'm sure, when
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jul 2016

he goes to NC to preach...POS....along with his ideology - distorted passages - seems not too many paths left for drumpf to win..NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-presidential-race.html

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
7. If She doesn't want a woman to be President, She can appear publicly and
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:50 PM
Jul 2016

say so, or She can, as omnipotent God Almighty, see to it that Hillary Clinton doesn't win.

I sure as heck don't want a bunch of hypocritical con-men posing as religious leaders telling me what God thinks. God gave me a brain that I consider quite adequate so that I can think for myself.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
8. I'm sure they voted for Obama over McCain in '08
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jul 2016

Lest a silent heartbeat put Sarah Palin at the helm. Yahweh's pretty clear on this after all!

dawg

(10,624 posts)
11. Religious people should pore over their scriptures critically ...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jul 2016

actively seeking to discern the will of their God.

Instead, these arrogant men try to bend the scriptures to their own will ... cherry picking the verses that fit their agenda while ignoring those that do not.

Ultimately, I think a kind and loving God would want his people to be led by the person who will lead them to do kind and loving things.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
13. It's even worse then that
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jul 2016

I posted this earlier in a thread. Strang says God spoke to his friend about donnie. So he's pitching for donnie. Strang was evidently at that evangelical meeting with donnie

http://www.charismanews.com/politics/elections/57682-televangelist-god-is-using-donald-trump-to-prepare-america-for-christ-s-return

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,002 posts)
15. Home grown Ayatollahs
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jul 2016

Unfortunately some people put their brains on hold and listen to what these guys say.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. he should check the constitution
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jul 2016

it is up to the voter and the electoral college. God has no say. Is God an American Citizen?

thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
18. If God doesn't want Hillary to be president, then I imagine he can prevent it.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jul 2016

So these people can vote however they like and not worry about it.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
21. God isn't Russian
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jul 2016

He doesn't interfere in American elections, whether the Presidential candidate is male or female.

DFW

(54,388 posts)
25. God might not want religious conservatives putting their words in his mouth, either
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jul 2016

In fact, until I hear differently from God's mouth directly, that's the theory I'm going by.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
26. The Bible = 100% MAKE BELIEVE.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jul 2016

We as a species have got to move beyond allowing the fucking make believe of fucking religious texts having any influence over the lives of real people.

forgotmylogin

(7,529 posts)
28. Oh, fuck that noise.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jul 2016

Do they think we're offending the almighty by respecting women and everyone?

"Do unto others..."

"40 “The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.' "

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