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Related: About this forumThinkProgress: Mexican President Fact Checks Donald Trump To His Face, In Spanish
https://thinkprogress.org/mexican-president-fact-checks-donald-trump-to-his-face-in-spanish-94bb3491efa3#.f4zbwbq9bAlice Ollstein
37 mins ago2 min read
Mexican President Fact Checks Donald Trump To His Face, In Spanish
Following a controversial and hastily thrown together bilateral meeting behind closed doors on Wednesday, GOP nominee Donald Trump and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto held a tense press conference in which they politely disagreed about immigration, trade, and jobs.
Speaking first, President Peña Nieto tore into the core argument of Trumps campaign that illegal immigration across the U.S. Mexico border is out of control.
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Undocumented immigration from Mexico to the U.S. had its highest point 10 years ago and it has slowed down consistently, even to the point of being negative in a net effect at this point, said Peña Nieto, referring to data that supports these claims. He added that Trumps portrayal of the border as a one-way street is a clearly incomplete version that doesnt account for the illegal flow of money and firearms that goes into Mexico from the United States.
Every year, millions of dollars and weapons come in from the north that strengthen the cartels and other criminal organizations that generate violence in Mexico, Peña Nieto pointed out, adding that criminals in the U.S. benefit from the sale of illegal drugs.
Mexicos president, who is deeply unpopular in his own country, also pushed back against Trumps frequent rhetoric disparaging the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). I shared with Mr. Trump my belief that NAFTA has been good for both the US and Mexico, he said, adding that Trumps characterization of multilateral trade deals having winners and losers is inaccurate. Trade is not a zero sum endeavor.
Every year, millions of dollars and weapons come in from the north that strengthen the cartels and other criminal organizations that generate violence in Mexico.
Trump stood stiffly at his podium during Peña Nietos statement, not looking at the Mexican president. When it was his turn to speak, he hammered the importance of building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Having a secure border is a sovereign right, he said. We recognize and respect the right of either country to build a physical barrier or wall on any of its borders. to stop the illegal movement of people, drugs, and weapons.
He then hinted at his frequent boast that he would force Mexico to pay for such a wall, which is estimated to cost billions of dollars, saying: Cooperation toward achieving the shared objective, and it will be shared, of safety for all citizens is paramount to the United States and Mexico.
But when reporters present pinned Trump down on whether he directly asked Mexico to pay for the wall, as he has led supporters at nearly all of his rallies to believe, he demurred. Who pays for the wall? We didnt discuss that. This was a very preliminary meeting.
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ThinkProgress: Mexican President Fact Checks Donald Trump To His Face, In Spanish (Original Post)
babylonsister
Aug 2016
OP
Real leaders aren't as accepting of Trump's racist BS as a rally full of white wingers.
Hoyt
Aug 2016
#1
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)1. Real leaders aren't as accepting of Trump's racist BS as a rally full of white wingers.
babylonsister
(171,029 posts)2. I don't think he'll fare any better with anyone;
this guy is very unpopular and even he called trump on his b.s.
niyad
(113,029 posts)3. soooo--illegal immigration was at its highest point during the bush years? we should
keep pointing that out.
robbob
(3,522 posts)4. Nieto raises some good points that are worth repeating
Right wing wack jobs are looking at Mexico as a source of America's problems: illegal immigration, jobs being stolen, jobs lost to the low paying Mexican labor market.
Time to look at the other side of the coin: what costs does Mexico pay for living next to the USA? The flow of money and illegal arms to Mexico's drug cartels, for one. How many Mexicans have to live with the loss of a loved one who died as the result of an American gun that was brought over and used by the cartels? How many Mexican live in fear because of the drug cartels that are mostly financed by American drug money?
Trump is a simpleton, as are most his followers.