2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGennifer Flowers accepted Trump's invitation for the debate
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/debates-commission-frowns-on-cuban-sitting-front-row-228617?cmpid=sfupaloopa
(11,417 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,791 posts)This should be interesting.
Beaverhausen!
shraby
(21,946 posts)helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)The Republican Primary Debates were and he needs that atmosphere to perform.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)The whole thing is getting weird already.
OnDoutside
(19,986 posts)trolled. The Clinton campaign went down this road with Cuban, first. Even I predicted here yesterday that Trump would respond in kind, it wasn't rocket science. The bit I cling to is that the Clinton Campaign knew that he would do something like this in response, and it's part of some overall plan.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)otherwise they should never have announced it.
FarPoint
(12,481 posts)Either way, Hillary can handle Flowers without problems.... Hillary is class..flowers is a opportunist. My hope the Hillary Campaign baited Trump and has another card to play.
GoCubsGo
(32,100 posts)The Gennifer Flowers nonsense took place over 30 years ago. She is so far back in Hillary's rear view mirror, it isn't funny. If the Trump campaign thinks they're going to get a rise out of her by doing this, they are fucking clueless.
OnDoutside
(19,986 posts)Response to OnDoutside (Reply #22)
GoCubsGo This message was self-deleted by its author.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)From the guy that's a serial whore himself.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)To think that Trump claims he doesn't drink or do drugs. So being the a$$hole that he is, he can't blame anyone for his problems but himself I guess.
unblock
(52,489 posts)so she invited herself, lol!
more important, how ridiculous is it for the debate commission to "frown" on hillary inviting cuban?
he's not just someone involved for the sole purpose of needling the opponent, like flowers. cuban is a major donor and fundraiser for hillary. what has flowers done aside from having an affair with hillary's husband?
babylonsister
(171,109 posts)Every day I have the same old question: how low will he go. Seems that pit is bottomless.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/gennifer-flowers-will-join-donald-trump-at-mondays-presidential-debate/
Gennifer Flowers will join Donald Trump at Mondays presidential debate
David Ferguson
24 Sep 2016 at 16:19 ET
Gennifer Flowers a woman with whom former Pres. Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair has announced that she is accepting Republican presidential nominee Donald Trumps invitation to sit in the front row of Monday nights presidential debate.
BuzzFeed News reported Saturday that Trump posted on Twitter that he would like to see Ms. Flowers in the audience on Monday.
Within hours, Flowers announced that she would be happy to be there.
The move by the Trump team appears to indicate that Trump will be bringing up former Pres. Clintons marital infidelities in an attempt to humiliate Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton at some point during the debate.
unblock
(52,489 posts)divorce, in and of itself doesn't necessarily mean anyone cheated, but in donnie's case, two divorces combine with many other factors that highly suggest that he's cheated. not limited to his penchant for cheating in other areas, his ego, his misogyny, his narcissism, his lack of impulse control, etc.
babylonsister
(171,109 posts)possibly banking on the fact Clinton won't bring it up.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-history-women-adultery-objectification-article-1.2604073
How Donald Trump used the three women in his life for his own benefit and pleasure
snip//
Donald preaches in every speech, including the one announcing his presidential bid, about his devotion to the Second Amendment.
But its the Fifth Amendment that was his favorite when he was deposed in the divorce with Ivana, invoked 97 times to be exact, and mostly in response to questions about other women.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)at the same hotel that the family was staying at. Mistress Marla got tired of being tucked away and only brought out to service him, I guess, and decided to confront the wife on the ski slopes in front of the children and everythng. Trump sure knows how to pick them. The rest is history.
The sad part is that Trump falsified his net worth during his divorce from Ivana and she got much less in her divorce settlement than she was entitled to as a result of his hiding of marital assets. With Marla Maples, he had a prenuptial agreement with her and filed for divorce for her on the eve of which the prenup was due to expire. This was all in that Unfinished Business documentary which was on tv recently. Knowing his history, why anyone would be with him is beyond me. The older kids lived with their mother and didn't like him for a long time for what he did to her with Marla. Now I guess they love him. Probably because their financial security depends on him. I'd rather be broke.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)Obama would like to see Putin grovel on the floor and lick his boots and apologize for interfering in this election. That does not mean he is going to invite him to do those three things.
kimbutgar
(21,270 posts)She is mad because Bill didn't leave Hillary for her.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)riversedge
(70,442 posts)piece of crap! To have her sit front row is Wrong!
jalan48
(13,909 posts)CincyDem
(6,418 posts)...he couldn't care less about Flowers but he did get the commission to say they're not happy about Cuban being in the front row.
Classic bullying tactic when negotiating with an arbitrator (which is, I think, like negotiating with the debate committee). Take what the other side is doing, do something very similar to an extreme. It always invites the arbitrator to turn to the reasonable party and say "now lets be reasonable".
My bet - Cuban won't be sitting in the front row about Flowers will be watching from home.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)row days ago. t-rump is again making an ass of himself and many women of all shades will not and do not appreciate his motive.
CincyDem
(6,418 posts)Just saw it in the context of this Flowers thing and thought they were connected.
CincyDem
(6,418 posts)uppityperson
(115,681 posts)livetohike
(22,169 posts)idiot.
enough
(13,270 posts)Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)You go ahead and focus on reality TV topics, I'll focus on our country... and Donald, you can keep bringing up these topics, I'll keep my mind focused on higher priorities - we've seen what your priorities have been --- Pleasing Donald.
Or something of that nature. I'd hate if she doesn't have a home run comment ready for every stupid low class scummy Drumf comment.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)in front of the nation. A very sexist thing to do. A reality show stunt worthy of Jerry Springer or Maury Povich. This is a job interview, for pity sake. It may very well be the only time they will debate because that cowardly slime will find a way to weasal out of the next one. This is utter sexual harrassment.
If your partner was unfaithful in the past and you had a job interview, would it be appropriate for your rival to show up with the person he/she screwed around with at the interview? I'm contacting Hofstra and at least registering my opinion there.
onecaliberal
(32,991 posts)Maher is right, among so many other things, drumpf is a whiny little *&^%#.
jiminvegas
(104 posts)onecaliberal
(32,991 posts)It is especially awful when one of the women managed to work though her marriage issues and save her marriage. Something that most people admire rather than use as a tool of humiliation.
avebury
(10,953 posts)cheated on Don the Con. Imagine making arrangments for someone to conduct a tv interview with that guy before the debates.
madamesilverspurs
(15,819 posts)Hillary invited Mark Cuban, who is an impressive counterpoint to things said and done BY Trump.
Trump responded by inviting Gennifer Flowers, whose presence would be intended to punish Hillary for something that was done TO Hillary.
Trump truly excels at proving that money buys neither smarts nor class.
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Mayberry Machiavelli
(21,096 posts)to smack out of the ballpark.
Trump fucked up bad.
dreamer67
(12 posts)Is there a woman in America that will blame the wife for her hasbands infidelity? NO
Very easy one for Hillery to turn on trump with her eyes closed.
This also won't go down well with religious types.
This is a big looser for trump
underpants
(183,007 posts)Vinca
(50,326 posts)TwistedTinkerbelle
(137 posts)All this is going to do is garner sympathy for HRC with women voters. Like they needed to be reminded of all his ex-wives and infidelities...Bad move.
CTyankee
(63,926 posts)humiliating (and paying her for her trouble) another.
VERY BAD PEOPLE who are Trump voters...
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)And this stunt will backfire.
JI7
(89,287 posts)Claims to be.
onecaliberal
(32,991 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)intimidate Hillary - not on her best day - Hillary has moved on - flowers is a poor excuse for a woman....always follow the money...she is prostituting herself...just gotta' laugh at the deplorables...
be well all - I know I have a football game Monday night..even if I'm a Pats fan.....
Is Gennifer Flowers?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Trump's a clown
Mamajami
(257 posts)he is treading on thin ice.
JustAnotherGen
(32,025 posts)He's a ho. I hope Clinton wags her finger at him like Ivana did on that ski slope.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)hahaha
PJMcK
(22,069 posts)Mark Cuban's presence will rattle Donald Trump, especially if Mr. Cuban staring at Mr. Trump.
Hillary Clinton will do something gracious like welcoming Gennifer Flowers to the event and perhaps even asking for her vote!
nolabear
(42,002 posts)Like Hillary can't handle that bullshit. This just makes Trump look like the asshole he is to everybody who's just not a straight up misogynist sleaze.
Trump thinks this is WWF. He's wrong.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)be there . Probably has been a while since everyone has seen each other . There is a history with George Conway ( he is a lawyer ) George Conway is part of the smearing of the extra marital affairs , sounds like he holds a low opinion of the Clinton 's .
"George T. Conway 3d, a New York lawyer educated at Yale, shared Mr. Marcus's low view of President Clinton. When the Jones case led to Ms. Lewinsky, Mr. Marcus and Mr. Conway searched for a new lawyer for Mrs. Tripp. Mr. Marcus and Mr. Porter helped arrange for Mrs. Tripp to take her explosive allegations to Mr. Starr."
"In June 1994, Mr. Rosenzweig, a lawyer at a small law firm in Washington, with experience working in the Justice Department, expressed interest in doing legal work on behalf of Ms. Jones, but he did none, lawyers involved in the case said.
Law Firm Included Influential Democrats
Mr. Conway wanted his role kept hidden as well, because his New York law firm, Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, included influential Democrats like Bernard W. Nussbaum, a former White House counsel. Mr. Conway's name does not appear on any billing records.
Although the billing records show communication between Mr. Porter and the Jones lawyers from 1994 to 1997, he denied in a written statement last fall doing legal work for Ms. Jones."
That was just couple bits from article , rest at link ... kinda long
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/24/us/president-s-trial-lawsuit-quietly-team-lawyers-kept-paula-jones-s-case-alive.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
jiminvegas
(104 posts)And he took the bait. Point Hillary.
LAS14
(13,791 posts)... in the polls from women who remember those days.
Don't forget that there are a LOT of voters who, like someone above in this thread, will just say "Who is Gennifer Flowers?"
JustAnotherGen
(32,025 posts)HRC should play nice.
Maggots should be stepped on.
BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)Why would he go for the B-team? C'mon, Donald, you can do better! Let the world see how much of an asshole you are.
LeftInTX
(25,763 posts)underpants
(183,007 posts)I've said it for months.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)underpants
(183,007 posts)why the crowd is yelling doesn't matter, they just came to vent. I'm convinced that at some point the protests were staged (there was one in Rhode Island in an event tent that was almost TOO on cue) because it was part of the show. The crowd wants to see the same thing they've seen on TV. They want the greatest hits they've heard 100's of times.
I'll trade you great article for great article. This is from 5 seasoned NYC writers who've covered Trump and even his father.
Trumpology: A Master Class
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)With sign
Reserved for Meredith Mciver
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)Lebam in LA
(1,345 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Drumpf is a petulant little boy.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,771 posts)There is nothing that slime will not stoop to. Bleah.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Has the new lawsuit been filed?
How about all the contractors Trump stiffed . I say fill up the damn place.
Stupid fuck
GoCubsGo
(32,100 posts)lapucelle
(18,399 posts)it won't be to Trump's advantage. Attempting to shame and embarrass the first female major party nominee will only lose him more women voters. The only people snickering will be the idiots who were voting for Trump anyway.
As for Gennifer Flowers's part in this, she is a 66 year old who briefly bankrolled her notoriety into D list celebrity status. Showing up at the debate will only serve to underscore the differences between the two women, and it is Ms Flowers who will suffer in comparison.
LeftInTX
(25,763 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)Women voters
riversedge
(70,442 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,984 posts)...Trump look seamy and un-Presidential. Hillary should not comment on the notorious guest.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,430 posts)Seriously Trump you should move into the 21st century
tavernier
(12,415 posts)Hillary should put Streisand next to her.
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Many (I would like to think most) of us are not a part of this farce.
We are embarrassed at the antics of the person selected by THE REPUBLICAN PARTY to represent them in pursuing the office of POTUS.
We hope that enough citizens will be motivated to ignore Dancing With The Stars and get out and vote.
Sincerely,
USA Sane People