2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMichael Steele says if Hillary is too knowledgeable, she'll come off as a bully
This in reference to the debate tomorrow, shown on Chris Matthews tonight.
Really, Michael? Is this where women's lib has gotten you? That is, where he said Hillary will be viewed by Repug minions as a bully if she presents herself in command of presidential subjects, and Steele showing no concern that repugs equate being a knowledgeable woman with being a bully. I would love for Hillary to address this issue tomorrow.
In my universe, it makes me feel good knowing she has a longtime background in the issues and already knows the players. Why is that being a bully, Michael? Chris Matthews should have followed up on that.
Inquiring journalists should inquire why does Michael Steele equate knowledge and experience with being a bully?
rurallib
(62,478 posts)wonder if Steele has any idea how - what? misogynist maybe? - that sounds?
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)he did not say he himself will view her that way. However, I found his glib reading of the tea leaves unsettling. It is not acceptable that a knowledgeable woman who always does her homework is viewed as a bully. Period. Steele should be asked by whom will she be viewed as a bully if she shows her smarts?
Farmgirl1961
(1,494 posts)Whereas being an actual bully is seen as _______________ (fill in the blank)?
WTF!
Duppers
(28,132 posts)Seems as if the media slants informed opinions and policies every single time.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)His policies. That flew over Chris Hayes head completely
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)is not liked in certain places and is called bad names because she does her homework and speaks up about issues important to her.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)But you have worded it confusingly enough to evade a hide. Good job! I am perfectly secure about my intellect, so you can bash away if it gives you pleasure, lol. However, I still don't know why we should care what Republican Michael Steele says.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)He told me I was to smart and would never find a husband because men hate intelligent women. Of course this is the same man who told me "loose women wear red heels". I bought a pair and wore them to my high school graduation.
I really hate Michael Steele!
3catwoman3
(24,109 posts)My mom, now 94, similarly cautioned me about keeping my intellectual light under a bushel basket when I was boasting about having known something, as a nursing student, that some of the med students didn't know. This was back in the early 70s.
I couldn't do it. I knew if I faked who I was, i might be able to do it for a little while, but the real me would eventually have to come out.
I am the only nurse practitioner in a 9 physician pediatric practice. I still get a kick out of it when I know something they don't. Just a couple of weeks ago, I taught one of them the word for excessive drooling - ptyalism.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,069 posts)tblue37
(65,528 posts)Intelligence and education are viewed with suspicion by many people as "elitist." Adlai Stephenson, Al Gore, and John Kerry were all slammed as being too intellectual, while W was someone you could have a beer with.
Ike was a smart guy, but he knew the public, so he appealed to them by not letting them see him that way, but rather as a regular guy. a smart tactic.
W wasn't using a tactic at all, of course. He just couldn't find his own fanny at high noon with both hands.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Voting based on who you could have a beer with is the dumbest idea ever because that drink with the prez not ever happening. People treat these elections for political offices like they are voting for their favorite football team. The thing is whether or not the Pats win really has little impact on our day to day lives (other than sports conversations and betting if you do that sort of thing) but the results of these national elections impact all Americans and even people outside of this country.
kacekwl
(7,026 posts)like in little league. If you are winning too big game over. Sorry Donnie you're out.
onecaliberal
(32,991 posts)Repig apologist.
Mamajami
(257 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)I wasn't even alive then, not until three decades later, so this all doesn't make any sense to me.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)the betterment of America can bully a grown ass man?
The damn excuses are sickening. The GOP and corporate media should be ashamed of themselves, not.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I have repubs in my family who are voting for Hillary this time around.
Demsrule86
(68,788 posts)So Hillary has to play stupid? sounds fake...and sexist Michael. A knowledgeable woman is a bully by Republican standards...I threw up a little in my mouth. I thought that crap ended in High School.
cagefreesoylentgreen
(838 posts)tblue37
(65,528 posts)Obama is actually a dominant male. He simply owns the room without having to screech for attention.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)and we're talking high jump not the limbo
Steele can't even step over a bar without tripping on it
democrattotheend
(11,607 posts)How on earth does a 5'5" woman come off as a bully against someone like Trump?
meow2u3
(24,776 posts)Donald is a weak, dirty coward who covers up his chickenshit with a show of bully-boy machismo and Hillary is the bully because she knows her stuff?!
I've heard of projection, but this is downright ridiculous!! This just proves that repukes are just little boys at heart!
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Poor little 6 foot 2 man and his oh so fragile ego....
Does he want mama (sic) Clinton to smile at him so he won't feel so threatened?
Two weeks ago she was at "death's door" and now she can pulverize a grown man with words...
Quite a recovery don't you think?
Next time anyone brings any mention of her health,
lets just point to this and wonder about poor little's Trumpie's failing strength.
Orrex
(63,263 posts)Did he single her out because she's a woman? Or because she's smart?
If the former, well, he can take his retrograde bullshit and shove it up his ass.
If the latter, well... Is he wrong? The public is trained to be suspicious of anyone who seems too smart or too knowledgeable, along with anything that smacks of too much "book learnin'."
The media will be happy to feed into that preconception, and Trump will be more than happy to ride that idiot wave of stupidity to higher poll numbers.
Regardless, Michael Steele is an asshole.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)What's okay for Trump to say or do would be a call for congressional investigations for Hillary.
radius777
(3,635 posts)and it worked to some extent. The media portrayed Gore as an arrogant, robotic know-it-all and Bush as an authentic 'guy you want to have a beer with'.
Of course this time in addition it has the twist of sexism, but it won't work here, as Trump is not a sympathetic, charming figure (like Bush was viewed) but the quintessential blowhard bully-boy who most people want to see 'punched in the mouth'.
Also, after the debacle of 2000 and failures of the ensuing Bush years, the middle of the electorate (which decides elections) I think (at least I hope) realizes how important experience and depth of knowledge is now more than ever.
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still_one
(92,504 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(131,370 posts)'They' can't handle smart, been dumbing down the electorate for years, and been bullying themselves, so calling the opposition 'bully' works for them.
doc03
(35,442 posts)he talked down to "W" and was perceived a bully by the MSM.
ancianita
(36,217 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)This man ( Trump ) has been a bully all of his life and she is going to get into trouble for seeming like a bully because she is smart? Hey maybe he should point out that she is blonde to. Some Repukes...what idiots.
longship
(40,416 posts)He substitutes his ignorance with a jerk attitude.
She should dumb herself down to the point where rednecks feel comfortable having a beer with her. How well did that work out with the previous president?
After the train wreck his party has become by glorifying ignorance, and 8 years of having a smart intellectual in a successful presidency, Steele STILL doesn't get it.
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remaineruk
(156 posts)Utter tosh
He will show his weak hateful character. He will try and bully and bluster his way through. He's never had an equal conversation with a woman. He won't start now. It will be clear who the bully is
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)for doing this! Yet he is one of the saner Republicans today.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)BSdetect
(8,999 posts)Whenever he talks he slips in stupid anti Democrat BS. Every time.
Like a wind up dummy.
He is a feeble minded hack.
Totally transparent.