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In the end, Hillary surpassed all expectations. (Original Post) sheshe2 Sep 2016 OP
Yes she did! I thought she was superb! Avalux Sep 2016 #1
And she got under his skin before the debate even started. FuzzyRabbit Sep 2016 #23
No. William769 Sep 2016 #2
... and she did it with a smile on her face sheshe2 Sep 2016 #4
Hillary has got a nice smile LeftInTX Sep 2016 #9
Nice. And Trump folded under that same pressure. And everyone saw him fold. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #3
Agreed. 100% sheshe2 Sep 2016 #5
Personally I think it was complete ignorance that his audience has changed. Amimnoch Sep 2016 #22
That also. Trump is used to his rallies filled with gullible people who desperately hope that Trump guillaumeb Sep 2016 #32
She had to walk a razor-thin line- KittyWampus Sep 2016 #6
She did an outstanding job. lovemydog Sep 2016 #7
It was magnificent. sheshe2 Sep 2016 #28
Maybe my favorite photo of the past year. lovemydog Sep 2016 #36
Passing the torch. sheshe2 Sep 2016 #38
Oh what a wonderful pic!!! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #45
She not only surpassed BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #8
That shimmy cracked me up. lovemydog Sep 2016 #37
I saw the shimmy, yet... sheshe2 Sep 2016 #39
I want this tee shirt! BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #44
She floated like a butterfly DeminPennswoods Sep 2016 #10
Lol! sheshe2 Sep 2016 #11
Thanks DeminPennswoods Sep 2016 #34
I am sure he approves that message. sheshe2 Sep 2016 #35
You can usually tell how a candidate and her/his campaign feel they did by their actions 4lbs Sep 2016 #12
Go Hillary! lewebley3 Sep 2016 #13
Male horses who have lost a fight bite their mares and foals. raging moderate Sep 2016 #16
a co-worker barbtries Sep 2016 #14
I'm a die hard Bernie supporter and always will be elmac Sep 2016 #19
Good to hear about your co-worker! sheshe2 Sep 2016 #46
I hate using the word perfect to describe anyone elmac Sep 2016 #15
Yes she did! Spectacular debate from her! lunamagica Sep 2016 #17
There were several times BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #18
I loved the split screen. sheshe2 Sep 2016 #25
Thank you, Hillary. byronius Sep 2016 #20
K&R SunSeeker Sep 2016 #21
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #24
Yes, she did! The M$M set the bar very high - and she exceeded even that. BlueCaliDem Sep 2016 #26
I am with you! sheshe2 Sep 2016 #29
She was brilliant mcar Sep 2016 #27
She sure was! sheshe2 Sep 2016 #30
She is a fabulous candidate. I am proud to vote for her! apcalc Sep 2016 #31
I am so proud of her! NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #33
So Much This!! lupinella Sep 2016 #40
She didn't surpass mine DFW Sep 2016 #41
Great cartoon lillypaddle Sep 2016 #42
Kick! Hekate Sep 2016 #43
Perfect! LAS14 Sep 2016 #47

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. Yes she did! I thought she was superb!
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:32 PM
Sep 2016

She did exactly what I wanted her to do - stay centered, needle Donald, then smile and watch him implode.

FuzzyRabbit

(1,967 posts)
23. And she got under his skin before the debate even started.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:33 PM
Sep 2016

She called him Donald. He does not like to be called Donald. From http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/clinton-wins-historic-first-debate :

The debate hadn’t even commenced when Clinton landed her first blow. Greeting her opponent onstage before they went to their respective podiums, Clinton said, “How are you, Donald?” Not “Mr. Trump.” (Everybody knows he hates to be called by his first name.) That may seem like a small thing, but with those four words, Clinton attacked his sense of self-importance and claimed her right to be treated as his equal. Once proceedings were underway, she called him by his first name throughout.


And from: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/09/26/clinton_only_called_trump_donald_during_debate_in_a_major_power_move.html :

From her first recognition of his presence (“Donald, it’s good to be with you”) to her few pointed zingers (“Donald, I know you live in your own reality, but those are not the facts”), Clinton reduced her opponent to a casual first-name sparring partner.

sheshe2

(83,799 posts)
4. ... and she did it with a smile on her face
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:42 PM
Sep 2016

and a little shimmy when she was done.


I was so sweet to watch, William.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Nice. And Trump folded under that same pressure. And everyone saw him fold.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:35 PM
Sep 2016

Recommended.

I loved the line where Clinton talked about actually preparing for a debate that might influence voters for this most important contest.

But Trump has been coasting on family connections for his whole life. His misogyny led him to underestimate Clinton. I predict he will try the same bullying tactics again. He is far too old and set in behavior to change.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
22. Personally I think it was complete ignorance that his audience has changed.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:29 PM
Sep 2016

There's a difference between the audience one will have in a primary debate and the ones in a GE debate.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
32. That also. Trump is used to his rallies filled with gullible people who desperately hope that Trump
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:26 PM
Sep 2016

has some actual solutions. An uncritical audience. One hopes not the same as the electorate in November.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. She had to walk a razor-thin line-
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:47 PM
Sep 2016

She had to walk a razor-thin line between "do this - but don't do that" and "do this- but not too much".

Not too passive, not too aggressive.

Be well informed but not too smart.

Be assertive but not aggressive.

And on and on

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
7. She did an outstanding job.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:59 PM
Sep 2016

Focused, calm, prepared. She made her case for why she'll work hard toward reducing income inequality. She addressed the need for criminal justice reform, acknowledging & tackling systemic racism, equal pay for women, diplomacy over recklessness. She didn't let the the venal bully's interruptions take her off her message.

Things have gotten much better under President Obama. She will continue that legacy and expand upon it, addressing the importance of strengthening the middle class via increasing taxes on the most privileged, to help grow the backbone of our economy. Strengthen & improve & expand the Affordable Care Act! All the while remaining sensitive to the least advantaged. She treats each person the same. Every person deserves a government that works for them, with no favoritism.

I'm so proud of her too sheshe2. Be proud that you've spoken out in her favor. Like you've done for President Obama and his Administration. Like you, I've supported and had President Obama's back. Like you, I'll do the same for Secretary Clinton, if she becomes President. She's so highly capable. She's so highly experienced. She has the right policies for our time. She made her case just as she has always made her case. By being prepared. Confident in her desire to speak well of others like us.

Hope you enjoy a great day & rest of the week.

sheshe2

(83,799 posts)
28. It was magnificent.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:48 PM
Sep 2016

I will tell you something, both times 2008 & 2012 I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was going to win. I wasn't here then but I was reading a lot of sites, this one as well. I was following closely. He had a brilliant team working with him, they had feet on the ground and they were prepared as they watched and listened. The only thing that shocked me about the win was the magnitude.

Hillary has a great team as well, and as the debates show, she sure does her homework with the help of her team. She has got the feet on the ground, they know what they are doing, they are registering voters and getting out the vote. Yes, I have her back now, lovemydog. So does he.



She's got this.

sheshe2

(83,799 posts)
38. Passing the torch.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:48 PM
Sep 2016

Those two have a very long history together. Some of it rocky? Sure. Yet both good people that love this country.

There is a deep mutual respect between them. Love and kindness is a very good thing. They have proven that.

BlueMTexpat

(15,370 posts)
8. She not only surpassed
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:00 PM
Sep 2016

expectations - which were MUCH higher for her than for him (for some, it was enough for him not to drool or fall off the stage) - and she did it with poise, grace, class, informed comments and some great shimmies!



lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
37. That shimmy cracked me up.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 08:20 PM
Sep 2016

Shimmy shimmy shake for continuing progressive policies. With a highly qualified progressive woman as our next President.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
12. You can usually tell how a candidate and her/his campaign feel they did by their actions
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:55 PM
Sep 2016

soon after the debate ends.

Hillary, Bill, Chelsea, and family smiled, waved, and hugged each other as they made their way to a post-debate prep rally.

Trump, Melania, and the Clan were mostly tight-lipped and not smiling. Trump supposedly even got into an argument or two walking to his car.

The Trump campaign surrogates were busy blaming everyone but their candidate, and trying to explain and reshape what he said in the spin room.

Hillary's people were barely present in the spin room.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
14. a co-worker
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:18 PM
Sep 2016

who just finally decided last week to vote for her (die-hard Bernie supporter, Hillary hater), loves her now. he is a true fan, was completely blown away by how good she was. he told me today he thinks she may end up being a better president than Obama.

i feel much better now. still scared because there are so many stupid and willfully ignorant people and there is still a predominant corporate media which does not have the welfare of the country in mind. but much better.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
19. I'm a die hard Bernie supporter and always will be
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:41 PM
Sep 2016

But always knew I would support whom ever ran the Democratic ticket. All progressives are behind HRC and they should be. Hoping independents follow and republicans who know deep down that Thump is poison. No matter how much talk or bloviating against voting for Hill, when it comes right down to the minute they make their choice in the booth, they will vote safe knowing that too much is at stake.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
15. I hate using the word perfect to describe anyone
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:22 PM
Sep 2016

but damn, she was good. Never been so proud of a presidential candidate in my life.

BumRushDaShow

(129,163 posts)
18. There were several times
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:40 PM
Sep 2016

where she had to keep from busting out in laughter at his crazy responses. She did great stifling the laughs and handling his boorishness and rudeness. I.e., the split screen is purposely there to catch things like eye rolls, etc., and unfortunately, when you're held at a completely different standard, you have to have measured reactions to the crazy shit going on right next to you.

She was able to perfectly convey the "I got this and pay no attention to the man over there behind the other podium" look!

sheshe2

(83,799 posts)
25. I loved the split screen.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:08 PM
Sep 2016

Loved watching him fidget and make faces, he has no sense of control. He proved himself to be the crass boorish bully that he is and he did it this time in front of millions of viewers.

You are right, she got this.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
26. Yes, she did! The M$M set the bar very high - and she exceeded even that.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:13 PM
Sep 2016

Brava, Hillary - our next president!

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
33. I am so proud of her!
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 07:37 PM
Sep 2016

I had my heart in my mouth at the beginning; I know how these things can go. But she was absolutely brilliant; she lobbed a couple of zingers but mostly was calm and informative. She made Trump look like exactly what he is: a carnival barker. (Of course, he helped there!)

DFW

(54,414 posts)
41. She didn't surpass mine
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:00 AM
Sep 2016

I wasn't an advocate of her candidacy originally, but when it became obvious she was going to run, the LAST thing I was going to do was under-estimate her intellectual capacity. I have experienced it first-hand a couple of times, and knew all along that if she got into the race, her competition was never going to be dealing with a lightweight.

Her competition for the White House isn't dealing with a lightweight now, either. It's Trump's own fault if he believes his campaign's fictitious drivel. The last thing Hillary is going to do is conform to some made-up image Trump's propagandists have contrived of her.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
42. Great cartoon
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:11 PM
Sep 2016

I can't imagine how nervous she had to have been. And what a tremendous job she did. I am so proud!

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