WTF does Axelroad have against Hillary? he has almost nothing good to say

[Gabi Hayes]

about her lately. Is it me? Am I just clicking in and every time I do, he's running her down? He's doing it again on CNN, saying she's inauthentic, and millenials aren't buying what she's selling.

He just said she "made some steps forward" in the debate.

said it pretty grudgingly

He's really pissing me off.....he still holding on to the 08 primaries?

or what?

[Agnosticsherbet]

1. He is not an employee.

[WhiteTara]

13. exactly.

[BlueMTexpat]

18. Bingo! eom

[riversedge]

2. I do not trust Axe as far as I can see him. I just caught that segment also and

wanted to scream to say the least.

I really do not know what his beef is with Hillary--. He is not fond of Bill either.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Axe is pissed because he wasn't chosen

Hillary campaign manager. Watched his career for years,if he doesn't have input in a campaign,watch out,he will retaliate.

[RonniePudding]

4. Oh yeah, I'm sure that's it

Where do people come up with this shit?

That Axe. WTF does he know anyway? All he did was become the architect of a campaign that got a black man with the middle name of Hussein elected president in a time of rampant islamaphobia in this country.

Pro tip: He's not your echo chamber. And if he says something, I'm inclined to listen even if it's not something I want to hear. Why? Because he knows WTF he is talking about.

Believe that.

[BainsBane]

10. Doesn't mean he can't hold a grudge for not being hired. nt

[RonniePudding]

11. So where is it documented he actively sought the job?

Here again, where do people come up with this shit?

[BainsBane]

15. I don't know

but his comments about Clinton are vapid.

[DFW]

29. By the way, get a new Russian to do your Trump/Putin mock-up

In Russian, a small "M" looks like a miniature version of the capital "M." What looks like our small "M" is a small "T" in their script.
Your Russian "Troomp" reads "Trootp" to a Russian.

[Stellar]

19. Agreed!

[BobbyDrake]

5. Petty words from a petty man.

He won in 2008 and somehow still holds a grudge against HRC. That and he's trying to establish his CNN talking (fat)head brand, so the more someone like him, a former Democrat campaign operative, criticizes the Democratic nominee, the more attention he gets.

He's a ratfucker, in other words.

[bigtree]

6. reminds me of pre Obama Axelrod

...he was like this before he shaved his stash and became Obama's campaign mgr.

Inauthentic? He should think back to where Hillary stood when Obama was at this pointin two elections, and stuff it.

[RonniePudding]

52. He had his stache throughout 2008

I wager you know very little about Axe if you can't get even that basic fact right.

[Mike Nelson]

7. Agree with...

...Agnosticsherbet. Axelrod is not receiving a paycheck this time and it shows.

[jodymarie aimee]

8. Ronnie Pudding is correct

You guys got to develop a thicker skin. Axe is one of us and will always be. Stop eating our own here, folks. If HRC can take it, so can you.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. who is "us?" he's starting to remind me of Pat Caddell

currently to be read on....are you ready?

Breitbart!!!!!

[RonniePudding]

12. Let me know when Axe starts writing for Breitbart

I think we'll both be waiting for quite awhile.

[Gabi Hayes]

39. as I said, he's starting to sound like him....who knows where

these political hacks end up?

look at Carville and some of his buds

seen some of the international campaign fiascoes to which they've attached themselves?

[RonniePudding]

49. Try not to be so thin skinned

[Gabi Hayes]

53. ?

lighten up, Francis

no skin in this for me

a hack is a hack, any way you slice it

[Gabi Hayes]

54. especially hacks like Fournier

what do you know about him?

not much, I'd guess

anyone who'd give him the time of day is not a source to be trusted

[CajunBlazer]

14. Oh calm down!!!

David Axelrod is paid by CNN to be an election analyst, not a Hillary shill. He is there to render his professional opinion about the election process; he is not on CNN to support Hillary as a surrogate.

That said, I watch him on CNN all of the time. I obviously missed the segment that you folks saw, but I have seen him on any number of occasions and he generally been complementary of Hillary's campaign, but not Trump's. When he make's critical statements he is far more critical of Trump than Hillary. I don't think this is because he is picking sides - that's not part of his job - it is because Hillary has been a much better candidate than "off of the rails" Trump and she has run a much better campaign.

It is obvious that some of the animosity being exhibited towards Axe stems from his work for Obama in 2008. I have one suggestion to make - get over it! Down deep, Ax is on our side and we don't criticize our own for just trying to do their jobs.

[leftynyc]

17. Axe is the one who needs to

get over it. He's been useless to Democrats this election.

[Stellar]

20. That's the way I see it too. nt

[Gabi Hayes]

21. oh wise up

you say you watch cnn all the time, but you conveniently missed all the segments in which he clearly was axe grinding

"many people" here say you're wrong

obviously he's Benin critical of trump, but his false equivalency game plays right into the hands of low info goobers who wonder why this high profile dem op is so down on his party's standard bearer.....contrast him with his former boss. the axe is grinding. wtf is his agenda?

[CajunBlazer]

23. Strange how two people can watch the same thing...

... and come away with totally different perceptions of what was really going on. Normally it the one with an axe to grind (no pun intended) who misreads the situation.

[Gabi Hayes]

38. you say you watch all the time, yet admit not to having seen

the segment I mentioned

anyway, I admitted he's been critical of Trump (as no sane person could not be), but it just rubs me the wrong way to see him be so negative about her.

I've been VERY grouchy about this crap for the last several weeks, since the CGI/email bullshit have run her down in the polls from a near shoo-in to a possible loser--"big league!" this is making me a basket case

apologies for peckishness

[CajunBlazer]

44. I didn't say that I watch CNN 24/7 - and Apology accepted

I didn't see the one segment you happened to see. I can only go by the many segments I have seen of Axelrod on CNN.

Apology accepted. Don't get stressed, take action. Contribute, volunteer or whatever you can do. Stress builds up when we feel that we are powerless to prevent something from happening. We are never powerless, there is always something we can do. Once we do what what we can, stress dissipates because we can truly say that we have done what we could and the rest is out of our hands.

Besides, Hillary's got this. I study polls carefully; I have some experience in this area and a decent background in statistics. The post debate polls are starting to come and the news is excellent. Meanwhile, Trump has take the bait, hook line and sinker and is continuing to to try to defend himself against accusations by a former Ms. Universe instead of staying on message. Expect the Clinton campaign to continue to continue to dangle new bait in front of Trump until the election on a regular basis and he has shown no capability to ignore these traps.

Check out this site for the latest polls:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/updates/

Also go here - You can see Hillary's lead growing everyday:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

In addition, more investigations into Trumps past seem to be coming out every day. And the media is now on has big time. Trump's going down.

Note: I am big realist - I was one of the DU users who was sounding the alarm as Hillary poll numbers were going down - but I am feeling good about this election now.

[Gabi Hayes]

47. appreciated.....am getting info on phone banking at home

gotta work all the time, so this is going to be it for me, pretty much here:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=phone+bank+for+hillary

have called a few.....numbers are up there

any knowledge in this area?

thanks

hope you're right about the polls; this whipsawing is making me even more crazy than I am already!

[Nedsdag]

34. Thank you!

I haven't posted in quite some time, but the berating of Axelrod is out of control. He can be objective without being biased.

Put this anger towards getting Democrats elected in the senate, house, and legislatures because she's going to need help.

[Gabi Hayes]

48. I posted some links that might at least make you take a second

look at the 'objective without being biased'

especially his fawning over Fournier, who is the epitome of the 'fair and balanced' faux journalist who has had an axe to grind for two decades and more. check the podcast linked above

thanks

[leftynyc]

16. It's not just you

I mentioned last week he's done zero good for the Democrats this election. And yes, it's obvious he's still pissed about 2008.

[CajunBlazer]

24. Strange how two people can watch the same thing...

... and come away with totally different perceptions of what was really going on. Normally it the one with an axe to grind (no pun intended) who misreads the situation.

[leftynyc]

30. If you want to pretend

He's been a positive force for democrats this election season, knock yourself out. When I said obvious, I meant obvious.

[CajunBlazer]

32. Did you see the segment where Axe was interviewed on CNN this morning?

Probably not since you seem to have formed your opinion based on one or two segment. If you had watched that segment you would know how wrong you have been. it was typical of how Axe has performed on CNN - a professional political analyst who has been very critical of how Trump has run his campaign.

Again, you seem to have an axe to grind. By the way, I supported Hillary in a big way in 2008 before she dropped out of the race and then, at her request, I started supporting Obama with the same passion. I was able to make that seamless transition because back then I was not involved in sites like DU where supporters of the two candidates learned to dislike each other.

That is probably the difference in how we view David Axelrod. I see him as he is, not as a former enemy.

[leftynyc]

33. I have no axe to grind

I look to see if someone is helpful to the Democrats. Trashing don the con isn't enough. I don't see him as an enemy - he's not that important. I see someone who hasn't been helpful to Democrats this season. You seem to want to take this personally - that's not my problem.

[CajunBlazer]

37. I am not taking anything personally

I was just stating an objective opinion based on facts as I know them. When I see another person coming up with a totally different opinion, supposedly based on the same facts, I naturally wonder if emotions are not involved in forming that opinion. If that is not the case, then I start looking for other reasons, like the other person is not as informed as he is pretending to be. That is evidently your situation. The only other possibility is faulty judgment on your part. In any case you are just flat wrong.

Bottom line, I know what I have seen on many appearances of Axelrod on CNN "including the one this morning which you obviously did not see". I can say unequivocally that that Axe is doing a great job as a political analyst on CNN, bringing his inside knowledge of campaigning to explain to viewers what is going on, or at least what should be going on behind the scenes.

Understand this, Axerod is not being paid to be a shill for Hillary's campaign, he is being paid to be objective. So he is not going to spend all of his time on the air praising Hillary and dumping on Trump. That is not his job. That said he has been, objectively, very critical of Trump as a candidate and the way his campaign has been run. He has also pointed what Clinton and her campaign have done well. On the other hand, you can also expect him to point out when the Clinton campaign makes errors (which is probably what you saw.) Again that is his job.

People in Axe's business are like lawyers - they are paid to the jobs they sign up for. In some case that means directing a campaign and/or acting as a surrogate for a candidate or doing the same job for that candidate's opponent. In other cases they may work for a network like CNN where they are paid to be objective commentators. That said, you are not going to find people like James Carville or David Axelrod working for Republicans.

[radius777]

22. If she had winners like Axelrod on her staff she'd be +10 by now.

Axelrod may be annoying, but he knows what he's talking about. She does need to speak more directly and authentically (less rehearsed sounding) to millennials (and independents and apoliticals) who are key in reassembling the Obama coalition.

[Gabi Hayes]

25. NOTHING she can say or do can break past the false narrative carefully constructed

by the VRWC/msm that's taken her from a 20 time most respected woman in the world to a vilified liar

and that ahole is contributing, happily, to it

I am NO Hillary fan, but this guy has a game going, and his faux realistic analysis ploy is as transparent as trumps saggy dura

[Hortensis]

36. Radius, she IS doing all that. She hit her stride during

the 2008 campaign, finally learning to show more of the real Hillary. She'll never be a Palin, Trump or Sanders on the stump, that's just not her talent, or style. She's a policy nerd.

But people who assume all those calcified old lines from her detractors are somehow eternal truths should take another look. The debate's on line. I recommend starting with that.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

26. The best of the talking heads regularly piss me off

but he is one of the few i take seriously enough
to usually expect a little subtle intelligence & insight.

[The empressof all]

27. Since when is insincere fawning a requirement for Democrats?

Hillary is the best person running. She is not perfect and unvarnished assessments from your own side are helpful and part of the democratic process.

[LenaBaby61]

28. Personally....

I've never really liked his style, even when he was with Sen. Obama. Another person I've never cared for is Ed Rendell either. But you're not going to like nor agree with everybody surrounding and involved with your candidate. Bottom line is that Hillary gets elected it's 2016, so it's about her and Tim and not about him. He doesn't need her and she sure as heck doesn't need him. Hillary DOES need the best surrogates out there in Pres. Obama, Michelle and Joe, and Bernie's doing his part as he promised he would, and James Carville is also a great surrogate. Whenever you see Axelrod, just turn the channel and save yourself some frustration.

[rumdude]

31. This thread is pathetic

Those of you bashing Axelrod for nothing should be f@cking ashamed.

[Gabi Hayes]

41. think so? read some of the stories here, and perhaps you might be

a little ashamed yourself

he's a self serving ass

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=axelrod+hurting+hillary

[Gabi Hayes]

42. this one, in particular, infuriates...he touts as his guest

the completely venal, lying POS Ron Fournier, who once called the Clintons "hicks," and has had it in for them for DECADES

team Axe, huh?

team Axe-hole, more like it

[RonniePudding]

50. Poster is trying to relitigate 2008 rather than advocating for HRC

Sad.

[Pisces]

35. I watch CNN all the time. He is always in her corner. He seems like the only

Adult on the panel sometimes, who speaks freely. He has total credibility. Calling out what some
Issues might be is not running her down. He seems to always be giving her free advice.

[MadBadger]

40. Team Axe all the way

[RonniePudding]

51. +1

People who really understand politics understand how great he is.

Those who have no clue get their wittle feelers hurt.

[MadBadger]

43. Did he say she is inauthentic, or that voters think that?

[Gabi Hayes]

45. is THIS close enough for you? huh?

jesus.....

read it yourself

jesus

http://freebeacon.com/politics/david-axelrod-hillary-clinton-lacks-authenticity/

know in advance the answer to the questions you axe, right?

read it for yourself

[MadBadger]

46. March 9th? Does he have to be in Hillary's pocket then? We had a primary going on.