Omg, this is happening! "Pence won overall, but lost with Trump"

[Godhumor]

Haha haha!

From John Harwood:

Trump adviser on debate after Pence passed up opportunities to defend him: "Pence won overall, but lost with Trump"
https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/783513968006537217

[C_U_L8R]

1. So that was indeed Donald

yelling at Pence on the phone.

[Cracklin Charlie]

8. Was he really yelling at him on the phone?

Did you see that on the teevee?

[C_U_L8R]

9. I was projecting

Hey, if Trump can do it, why can't I? ;-0

[Cracklin Charlie]

13. Trumps so weird, that it wouldn't surprise me if he did. nt

[C_U_L8R]

14. Pence did get a call while in the spin room

that the MSNBC folks said was probably Trump.
Then someone here on DU remarked that Pence
did not look happy on that call. From there, it's
anyone's guess, but I'll stick with Trump throwing
a paranoid nuttie on his ambitious running mate.

[JI7]

2. Trump is easy to get to and this would really set him off . maybe hillary can bring it up in the

debate in some way . how his own vp running mate didn't defend him.

[LonePirate]

5. Would love for Hillary to say in the next debate that her VP actually supports her.

[AmericanMan1958]

3. Can you say

3 am tweet storm

[regnaD kciN]

4. All I'll say is…

[ecstatic]

7. Me too!

[Foggyhill]

6. Only in MSN world did he win, by not defending

Trump, he lost big

Hrc should use that in the debate and set Trump
He will explode!

[ginnyinWI]

10. Trump to Pence:

"You're fired!"

[Bradical79]

11. It was a very smart debate by Kaine

I missed the first half of the debate, but I checked out a thread on another forum. First 15 minutes or so was "Man, I thought Kaine would be better at this." Then at the end "Is Pence setting himself up for 2020?" and "Wow, Pence through Trump under the bus." Like I mentioned in another thread, the two were playing completely different games with different goals. I've never seen any of Kaine's previous debates for governor, but his performance tonight was pretty much along the lines of what you want from your VP candidate, imo. It's kind of a bad sign when people start thinking the ticket should be flipped, lol.

[anneboleyn]

18. Yep. Pence threw Trump under the bus. He was out to promote himself. Cruz-lite.

[herding cats]

12. He "won" for 2020.

Which is basically meaningless since he's so closely tethered to Trump in 2016. He will not be their "golden boy" in 2020, bank on it.

He's going to be a nobody if/when Trump loses. He just doesn't realize that yet. The GOP will be struggling to restructure after this bizarre election year, and Pence isn't going to come out bearing the clout he hopes he will.

He's damaged goods now, no matter what. He can't play the "I'm trying to contain the nutcase" hand and still support him. It won't work for him down the road. Trump is too toxic, and the GOP has to work to contain that toxicity.

If/when Trump goes down, so goes Pence. Well, excluding the potential future bankruptcy filing.

[pepperbear]

15. aren't they kind of assuming that trump would not be the candidate in 2020?

[anneboleyn]

17. Exactly! He wasn't there to defend Trump. It was Ted Cruz lite, or Christie in 2012. Pence will

never get elected in 2020 (or any other year). People in Indiana loathe him, and he would not have won reelection for gov., which tells you everything.

[eShirl]

16. Good news!

good morning