2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT FOR GOP!!!
Love this! Some conservative evangelical guy named Steve on Tamron Hall who says he predicted this in a USA Today article back in May. He says it's all over except for the body count.
Such sweet revenge for President Obama who has, more than anyone, had to put up with Trump's racism while trying to keep this country together and try to keep the image of America from going to the basement.
Sorry...THERE IS NOT ENOUGH POPCORN IN THE WORLD!!!
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)"We should have put some skill points into brain case size instead of these massively fearsome but useless tails! MMMWWWAAAHHHGGGGHRRRR!"
GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)the Prez deserves to enjoy this!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,032 posts)Or the traditional style conservatives (educated, non- redneck) will have to leave en masse and start their own party.
lib87
(535 posts)And I agree. Trump is separating the republican party even further and I hope the kkk lite GOPers start their own party.
djsunyc
(169 posts)i wouldn't be surprised if down the road the current group of democrates b/c the new conservatives while the bernie type democrates become the new liberals.
Blue Idaho
(5,052 posts)So who were you before you recently became djsunyc?
even sure what you're talking about. just a hypothesis for a potential future.
Blue Idaho
(5,052 posts)Don't play dumb.
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Adrahil
(13,340 posts)If you mean that we may eventually move the enter of American politics to the left, I agree. And if the Dems form something like a permanent majority, we COULD see the emergence of viable far-left party. But that would not make the current Democrats "conservatives."
you said it much better than i did.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)People have been touchy around here lately.
And I agree with you.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)In fact last summer I too predicted that a new party would rise to the left as more and more of the "sane" GOP joined with the Democrats.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)Neither can stand on their own as a viable political majority. The crazy will always be crazy, but the 1% will have to find a stable home. If the democrats can keep them in check and not be corrupted by their money, maybe some real progress can be achieved.
Orrex
(63,219 posts)demigoddess
(6,644 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)I don't want them. So we.have what? A merger of the radical right and the radical left?
Looking at JPR (which I did maybe 3 or 4 times) I'm pretty sure that happened already.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)The new national conversation would be one of economics rather than one of culture wars.
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)I am hoping that this election is the one that finally ejects those assholes from the forum of what will benefit our nation.
Cary
(11,746 posts)These people will be deplorable until their bitter end, and I do mean bitter. They will not go away simply because they were rejected in this election cycle. If they did the GOP would be more viable.
Gore1FL
(21,147 posts)Re-fighting lost culture wars has not been useful to the GOP. If there is a re-alignment as the OP suggests, they won't be part of the coalition as such.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
hj.anony1
(28 posts)I suggest back under the rock from which they crawled out.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)I'm afraid they are a millstone around our neck. Worse for the GOP, of course. But they are dead weight and we are forced to carry them.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Not only for it's obvious Russian connections but for....
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)I've only seen right-wingers spell it that way. Are you sure you're on the right website?
erronis
(15,324 posts)Too bad the posse is quick to take action against perceived slights!
Cha
(297,503 posts)Thanks cilla
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,659 posts)I remember this board back in 2008 when we were sure the Republican Party was done - stick a fork in them done. They had almost destroyed the economy and voters were electing Obama and Democrats controlled the House and had 60 Senate seats. It looked like a real progressive, New Deal type agenda could be enacted. A mere six years later, repugs were back in control of Congress.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)Back in '73 the Republicans weren't supposed to be able to elect another President for a generation. We all know how that worked out!
Four years from now this will be ancient history.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)The bigger picture here is not whether or not Trump loses (he is finished), it is whether or not Democrats show up in numbers great enough to take back the Congress too.
Without a friendly Senate and House, Hillary Clinton will get absolutely NOTHING done. The Congress will employ the same tactics they have used on Obama, but they will be even more vitriolic in their intransigence.
4 years from now, the country is going to be coming off of 12 straight years of a Democrat in the White House, something that has happened exactly ONCE in the last 80 years (when FDR and Truman ran off 20 straight years over 6 terms). The longest GOP streak was Reagan-Bush I (from 1980 - 1992).
This country gets wanderlust with its leaders after a certain amount of time and without a friendly congress to help her, Hillary may find re-election a much tougher proposition that this circus freak show campaign has been. We need to realize that if GOTV falls short this year, it won't prevent Hillary from winning....it will just prevent her from governing.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Would really like a change in media too. Regulations against lying would be nice.... (ha, yeah I know, there'd BE no media without lies. First to go would be advertising!)
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)6 months ago and helped this turn into the disaster it is.
elmac
(4,642 posts)and reading about the Cons meltdown every day I bet the president is on cloud 9!
I don't think that the President is built that way. Though I am sure he feels good about his legacy. I think that he is the type of person who actually feels saddened by the state of events within the Republican Party. To the President, it has never been just about winning and losing. It is about doing what is best for the American people. While I disagree with him on some of the policies he has supported or not supported, I don't think he was in it for himself like Trump is.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)justice and revenge
AllyCat
(16,211 posts)Until then, VOTE!!!
berksdem
(595 posts)no justice has been served until Drumpf is dead in the water on election day. If I had a brick for every single time I heard that "the GOP is dying and extinct" I would have the home the equivalent of Trump Tower - minus the tacky adornments.
The GOP is not going anywhere and we have not won anything. The polls are favorable but we still need to execute the GOTV to guarantee this dreadful human being is nowhere near the WH.
Martin Eden
(12,874 posts)If not, then the Rethug party is not yet extinct.
86derps
(44 posts)Yes, Republicans are here to stay, but perhaps, they will be a less effective party divided. The problem for the USA is that the republican voter is so delusionally committed and faithful to conservative principals that logic cannot penetrate the parts of the brain for reasoning. It may take many years for the republican party to self correct.
RaymondLuxuryYacht
(66 posts)One never knows if they extinct.
PunksMom
(440 posts)has ever had to, along with the racism came disrespect, and opposition to almost every plan he wanted to implement. He deserves to see the republicans go down...HARD, & I hope he does! I'm so sick of their bullshit. UGH
bucolic_frolic
(43,250 posts)"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"
'I'm gonna build the greatest wall!'
I hate Reagan, but the concept of freedom was important to him.
Building walls, and fences, and divisions, and extraditions is not
part of freedom.
C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)But I still believe. Maybe this time. Maybe next.
Ilsa
(61,696 posts)I don't think most of them know what they want. How do they analyze what each group is offering? Don't both groups embrace misogyny, homophobia, and racism, but one more openly than the other? And that's just off the top of my head.
pansypoo53219
(20,987 posts)paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)"I just hope conservative America can {shrug off the distortions of propaganda}, and return to its true base values, which are a legitimate part of America and deserve representation. I just fear that the naturally greater tendency of conservatives especially religious ones to more frequently be followers instead of independent thinkers may undermine their ability to break free, and many of them may be doomed to follow a corrupt and failed oligarchic movement to its self-destruction. Some might come out of it enlightened and converted to the other side, but if the mainstream of the Republican party stays stuck in the old pattern, a lot of people will just be hurt, confused, directionless, and without a home in the political system, because neither party can speak for them. Thats a dangerous and unstable ingredient in politics, ripe for misuse."
Yeah, I sorta kinda anticipated the possibility of a demagogue like Trump taking over American conservatism, five years ago. https://supersonicman.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/134/
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)everything! Not enough popcorn in the world!
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)DFW
(54,428 posts)As long as there are fear, hate and jealousy in this world, there will be a Republican Party.
Lunabell
(6,105 posts)WAIT. No I don't!
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)As long as the Goebbels like Fox News and Rush can spew their right wing agenda, or enough people rediscover critical thinking, they will stick.
The stuff some people believe, the amazing things they don't know, is staggering. Anyone who watched some of Leno's "Jay Walking" bits knows this.
The powerful not dumb conservatives depend on getting work a day average people on their side. Lewis Powell said they needed "GOP-TV" and thanks to Reagan and cable they got it. They got people to vote directly against their own personal interest, to carry water for millionaires and billionaires.
Thos witless folks join with the nasty core, white power skin head types and it has often been enough.
We have to convince the non evil witless to actually research things, to come to their senses.