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Cattledog

(5,915 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:16 PM Nov 2016

Yes, Donald Trump Has A Path To Victory

This isn’t a secure map for Clinton at all. In a race where the popular vote is roughly tied nationally, Colorado and New Hampshire are toss-ups, and Clinton’s chances are only 60 to 65 percent in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. She has quite a gauntlet to run through to hold her firewall, and she doesn’t have a lot of good backup options. While she could still hold on to Nevada, it doesn’t have enough electoral votes to make up for the loss of Michigan or Pennsylvania. And while she could win North Carolina or Florida if polls hold where they are now, they’d verge on being lost causes if the race shifts by another few points toward Trump. In fact, Clinton would probably lose the Electoral College in the event of a very close national popular vote.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-yes-donald-trump-has-a-path-to-victory/

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Yes, Donald Trump Has A Path To Victory (Original Post) Cattledog Nov 2016 OP
Donald will not flip a blue state red. Isn't going to happen unless there's monkey business. n/t Avalux Nov 2016 #1
Looking at Nate Silver's Map, whose numbers would you rather have seven days before the election still_one Nov 2016 #9
Yet another bummer post, thanks. book_worm Nov 2016 #2
Oh please. duffyduff Nov 2016 #3
NV went for Ford in 1976 Cattledog Nov 2016 #7
No, He Doesn't DarthDem Nov 2016 #4
HRC could lose Ohio and Iowa while winning Arizona and NV and due to the hispanic vote (or lack of) pstokely Nov 2016 #5
Wisconsin is always light blue. ginnyinWI Nov 2016 #6
Let me summarize that for you. dawg Nov 2016 #8
Better send that info to Sam Wang, Upshot… regnaD kciN Nov 2016 #10
Yes, Trump has a path to victory Norbert Nov 2016 #11
Is Nate Click-baiting? AmericanMan1958 Nov 2016 #12
New Hampshire is a Toss up???? I don't think so TrekLuver Nov 2016 #13
Okay Nate since it will be so easy for Trump then up it to a 50/50 race. So sick of this shit! nt helpisontheway Nov 2016 #14
The Only Path He's On is The River Nov 2016 #15
Concern and Red Hat noted. SwankyXomb Nov 2016 #16
538 UTLonghorn Nov 2016 #17
Very click bait MSMITH33156 Nov 2016 #18

still_one

(92,209 posts)
9. Looking at Nate Silver's Map, whose numbers would you rather have seven days before the election
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:27 PM
Nov 2016
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=2016-senate-forecast

Democrats are getting out and voting, and I am really getting a little tired of these "concern" threads.

If those that seem to go out of their way posting these "danger" signals, and are a "concerned" as they appear to be, then might I suggest to them to get off their butts and do some phone banking into swing states



 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
3. Oh please.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:21 PM
Nov 2016

Enough of this nonsense.

Nevada is in the bag for HRC, and it has been for weeks.

It has picked EVERY winning candidate for president from 1964 onwards.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
4. No, He Doesn't
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:23 PM
Nov 2016



1. 538 gonna 538. Need to get those final-week ad clicks in!!

2. Not a secure map for her at all? Ugh, please. CO and NH are not tossups by any stretch of the imagination. Loss of Michigan or Pennsylvania? Ridiculous. She's well ahead in Nevada. And a popular/electoral split? Wow, they're really breaking down over there.

3. If this isn't a secure map for Clinton, what is it for Trumpster?

4. Why would anyone post this?

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
5. HRC could lose Ohio and Iowa while winning Arizona and NV and due to the hispanic vote (or lack of)
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:23 PM
Nov 2016

IA is mostly white, OH is mostly white outside the cities

dawg

(10,624 posts)
8. Let me summarize that for you.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:27 PM
Nov 2016

Trump has a path to victory ... but only if more people decide to vote for him.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
10. Better send that info to Sam Wang, Upshot…
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:27 PM
Nov 2016

…the HuffPost and DKos elections modelers -- all of which show a Clinton win probability of 89%-98.2%.

AmericanMan1958

(520 posts)
12. Is Nate Click-baiting?
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:30 PM
Nov 2016

Poll AVG 10/31
New Hampshire Clinton +4.7
Wisconsin Clinton +5.7
Michigan Clinton +7.0
Pennsylvania Clinton +6.0







The River

(2,615 posts)
15. The Only Path He's On is
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:46 PM
Nov 2016

the Road to Hell in a hand basket full of down ticket Repugnants.
Hardly a path that leads to victory.

UTLonghorn

(24 posts)
17. 538
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 09:37 PM
Nov 2016

has become nothing more than clickbait nonsense. Follow Harry Enten on twitter instead. He's a 538 contributor, but seems to routinely contradict the horse race crap that Nate pushes. It's sad to see really. I used to follow Nate religiously, but now that 538 has grown into such a behemoth, Nate seems to be more interested in bringing in traffic by playing up Trump's odds.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
18. Very click bait
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 10:18 PM
Nov 2016

Because the article basically has 2 points:

1) Trump has (almost) no path if he loses the popular vote by 3-5 points

2) Trump has many paths if the popular vote is within 2 points

The race is currently in category 1 on his own site. His current projection is Hillary by 3.8%, so he's basically saying if Hillary loses half her lead, then Trump has a possible chance to win.

Headline is meant for clicks, message is actually saying that as is, Trump has almost no path and he needs to somehow knock her lead way down.

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