2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf those Florida GOP numbers are true...
If those Florida GOP numbers are true it might be Cuban Republicans who are upset with Trump for emasculating Marco Rubio.
TheLibIn615
(61 posts)Hope that's not the full story, because otherwise this poll has me salivating about that Senate seat. If it's a vendetta on behalf of Rubio, then never mind.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)republicans down ticket.
Gothmog
(145,279 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Appears Cubans are shifting from the GOP.
niyad
(113,318 posts)OnDoutside
(19,957 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)There are millions of Republican women who will vote Hillary.
This is an exit poll basically.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)That level of R support, if common throughout other states, will flip GA, IN, MS, SC and TX in addition to locking down FL, NC and OH very early. KY, LA and MO could also flip with those numbers. We can only hope they throw some votes to down ballot Dems.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)It probably won't be, but it sure as hell won't be close, despite the media trying to make it so.
Trump is unfit and unqualified for the job.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Then we can watch the damn news networks try to weasel their way out of the "horse race" they created!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)duffyduff
(3,251 posts)The three Rs: racism, Rubio, and Russians.
Whatever it is, I'll take it.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)So not Pro Dem across the board
peggysue2
(10,829 posts)Aka the 'Never Trump' Republicans are splitting their ticket according to the TargetSmart survey/prediction. Voting Hillary Clinton at the top and Rubio for Senate.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Trump isn't ahead by 7 in NC, and Clinton isn't ahead by 8 in FL.
Nate Cohn of NY Times upshot also severely skeptical
Sample size for Rs who early voted is only 120 or so.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)remember how hated Trump is by Latinos.
That said, I agree that she won't win by 8, at least not since Comey and Chaffetz set out to rig the election. Before they did that I thought she might win by 10 points and 375 electoral votes.
Now that won't happen. And we won't take the House back either, thanks to their misconduct.
Ironically, we know have our first actual abuse of power in this whole story about Hillary Clinton's email server.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Not even close to reality.
I'm glad you posted a related reply first because I didn't want to look like a bad guy by going first. It's sad that so many threads are touting a finding that doesn't threaten logic.
Republicans have been moving toward Trump, not away from him.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Irresponsible of MSNBC to post a poll with sample size 311 as game changer.
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)more Red.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I'm watching a tape of Lawrence O'Donnell's show right now.
You guys brutally buried the lead. The Moody's Analytics segment was light years more relevant than one floppy Florida poll.
He incorporated and described all the long term big picture fundamental variables that I've described here and elsewhere for more than 15 years. That's what decides elections, not day to day hysteria.
I particularly appreciated that his model includes number of terms served by the holding party, and also gas prices. Those are two critical factors that are seldom mentioned. In 2012 I remember sweating gas prices throughout the summer and fall. Fortunately they dove just in time, dropping a half dollar or more. Ohio benefited immensely.
This year it's been relaxing with gas prices remaining low, by standards of this era, for the past year or more.
Tremendous job by Lawrence O'Donnell to understand the value of something like Moody's Analytics. That's what sets him so far above Rachel Maddow, for example. She would never feature something like that, not when it could sap time from her 20 minute opening babble.
Demsrule86
(68,578 posts)And he has said awful things about all Brown people.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)And I hope the Clinton campaign will finally listen to Alcee Hastings and pull together an emergency GOTV effort.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Who doesn't appreciate men viewing his daughter as an object for sex. Or that he believes Russia is expanding its empire and doesn't like Trump cozying up to them. Or is it his out of control economic planZ The list goes on for reasons Republicans should despise this man.
Demsrule86
(68,578 posts)This was a poll taken of voters who have already voted...already voted. And Hillary Clinton was getting 28% of GOP votes. The pollster could not break it down in terms of ethnicity but says it could be true because the the Hispanic voter is up.