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MSNBC/Brian Williams: Florida survey: 28% of -GOP- early voters picking Clinton (Original Post) Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 OP
Sounds good to me. REC! anamandujano Nov 2016 #1
It's rigged INdemo Nov 2016 #2
Joking, I imagine? It's more accurate than polls of Hortensis Nov 2016 #3
I believe this Sunsky Nov 2016 #4
Clinton +8, Trump +6 according to two different polls this week using the actual voter file geek tragedy Nov 2016 #5
It means the polls are bullshit davidn3600 Nov 2016 #6
the campaign is taking nothing for granted and is not acting like they have geek tragedy Nov 2016 #9
I agree. The data is, as Nate Silver puts it, "noisy" Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #10
Anecdotal evidence of Cubans I know who live in Florida Dem2 Nov 2016 #7
Where are the R's in the poll from? JCMach1 Nov 2016 #8
K&R napkinz Nov 2016 #11

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Joking, I imagine? It's more accurate than polls of
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 07:57 AM
Nov 2016

prospective voters because it polls people who have already voted on how they voted. Florida publishes the names of people who have voted, so the pollsters also have data on party registration, age, sex, race and ethnicity, and other factors.

Pew, "the gold standard" in this industry, has also chosen this polling company to do some work for them.

What I'm actually really happy about is the suggestion that a very significant number of Republicans are emphatically rejecting Trump's hateful tear-up-the-Constitution barbarism. Whatever the true counts turn out to be, I'm so glad.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Clinton +8, Trump +6 according to two different polls this week using the actual voter file
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 09:58 AM
Nov 2016

What does that mean? Average the polls.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
6. It means the polls are bullshit
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:11 AM
Nov 2016

They are all over the place.

This campaign needs to seriously stop acting like it's in the bag. The pollsters do not have an accurate pulse of the electorate right now. It's a very fluid situation.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. I agree. The data is, as Nate Silver puts it, "noisy"
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:35 PM
Nov 2016

Still, given the high number of Jewish voters in FL, maybe "Jew-S-A" yelling guy didn't help Trump there so much.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
7. Anecdotal evidence of Cubans I know who live in Florida
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:13 AM
Nov 2016

People I know who have moved to Florida and are generally apolitical are posting anti-Trump & pro-Clinton posts on Facebook.

This means that they feel comfortable enough to post this in front of their fellow Cubans, who, as I know from growing up with them, tend to be conservative. I'm hoping this is the big surprise this cycle.

JCMach1

(27,559 posts)
8. Where are the R's in the poll from?
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:35 AM
Nov 2016

N. Florida (where a majority of R's are who vote in a given election) is bright Tea Party Red (think HEAVY TRUMP)? South Florida R's are not as Tea Party, older, and more Hispanic.

While I would like to believe Hillary is +8, knowing Florida I don't buy it unless the poll balance geographic regions of the state by party.

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