2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs another devastating anti-Trump oppo dump coming?
We have 6 days left. Do you think at least one more anti-Trump opposition research dump is coming?
If so, when do you think it will come and what do you think it will contain?
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Everything's baked in good and bad at this point.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)That's all that's left that matters.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I held a Halloween event at a gay club in Charlotte, NC. We had workers come in and hand out stickers. We had an official surrogate, local Transsexual activist Candis Cox, come in and give a speech to the crowd. I feel like our GOTV is dwarfing Trumps at the moment.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)NastyWomen
(119 posts)They saved the best for last. It would ease my nerves a lot, but I don't get the logic in waiting any longer. If they have it, use it now!
musicblind
(4,484 posts)That ends tonight.
If something doesn't come out either Thursday or Friday... then there is nothing left to come out.
Maybe our outstanding GOTV effort will be the real November surprise.
louis-t
(23,295 posts)"THE CUBS WIN THE SERIES!!1!!!"
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)but maybe they're waiting until the last minute.
As someone else said, a lot of people have already voted. If a never-Trumper reading this is sitting on something explosive release it now, PLEASE!
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll drop something this Friday?
I'm not counting on it. I think we've got this regardless... but it would still be nice.
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)I have no clue what could come out that would deter the remainder of the deplorables from voting Trump. I also can't imagine anything that would come out that would stop the media from trashing Clinton.
Lets play off of an old trump line, with a bit of expansion.
If Trump were to shoot a black man in the streets of NY, not only would he not lose any votes, the media would savage the deceased and Trump would be put up for sainthood.
Trump has his supporters. They are set at this point. I don't see how anything could hurt him. This is the true face of the republican party.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Though you're probably right... they so desperately want their horse race.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Even though I feel fairly confident that we are going to win the presidency... I wish there was one last story that could sink Trump for good... not just from winning this election, but from ever showing his face in public again.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)to change.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)Those supporters are mentally damaged. You can't help someone who is mentally damaged.
But I do think a change in the media narrative might add an extra point or two to Hillary's win. Maybe an extra seat on the Senate (Hopefully Burr will be kicked out).
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Trashbag? And he said child molestation. So I came back with oh so assaulting women isn't good enough huh?
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)And she has witnesses...including one who actually SAW the rape/s.
3PM pacific time with Lisa Bloom
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:54 PM - Edit history (1)
and get the focus back on Trump and his ugly ways, unfitness for office, clear and present danger to democracy, etc.
also its about undecided/independent/moderate voters, not Trump's hardcore support, which is not going to be affected by much of anything at this point. neither base will be. its the undecideds/ind/mods that are.
because Trump (imo) being the alt-right neonazi thug he is, having hired Bannon/Stone and other low-lifes, and with the support of Putin/Wiki, will likely have something else to dump (even if it's mostly bullshit, just as the Comey thing is) on us, which is why we must be ready with our own dumps and/or effective defense.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)BREAKING: woman who sued Donald Trump for child rape breaks her silence today. http://ow.ly/5gbR305MW3N
see https://twitter.com/LisaBloom/status/793880513018785792
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512573622
musicblind
(4,484 posts)If this were a Clinton accuser, you know it would receive 24/7 coverage.
Last week they ignored the 12th woman who came forward accusing Trump of sexual assault.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Rape is no joke, child rape is a death sentence.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Hey, MSM, enough with the g-damn Emails!
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Rick Wilson, a never Trump Republican strategist and campaigner for Evan McMullen Utah Indie candidate (you know the one that means Trump could lose Utah), hinted on twitter early in the week that there would be a Dump on Friday. Merely teasing or really know something? Your guess as good as mine. Edited on Review of previous post. WILSON HINTED AT SOMETHING NOT SEXUAL.SO THE RAPE CASE IS NOT IT.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I still expect nothing.
You have to step back and evaluate the big picture. In a typical cycle we wouldn't be anticipating anything at this stage. Trump may be bizarre and dangerous and unhinged and everything else, but it still doesn't move the probability needle enough to make a late surprise more likely than not.
Apparently a few people on cable shows and twitter took advantage of the desire for more material, implying that it was inevitable.
radius777
(3,635 posts)they didn't drop something on him after the last debate (in anticipation of Comey's bullshit, to drown it out), the way they did with the Machado story after the first debate.
Ones I can think of off the top of my head:
Trump Model Agency sweatshop - women may've been illegally brought in from eastern Euro countries, not paid, ill-treated, all slept in one apartment, advised to lie to customs. Ugly story consistent with Trump's misogyny, and speaks to hypocrisy about trade/immigration.
Trump inheritance battle - where he allegedly cut off the health insurance of a sick nephew/child to spite the brother/relative (i don't remember exact details). But it is a ugly story that is consistent with Trump's vindictiveness.
Trump alleged rape of his ex-wife Ivana. - iirc, this was alleged in the divorce battle.
Trump aleged rape of 13yo girl at sex party (not sure this one has enough substantiation for the news to cover it).
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)Get him off the teleprompter and back onto the tweet machine!
radius777
(3,635 posts)that is the clear pattern, if something is introduced, such as Judge Curiel, Khans, Machado, etc that hits at Trump's ego, and the media is forced to cover it - Trump can't resist taking the bait, thus he sets himself on fire and dances around like a crazed clown.
Can't believe our side didn't do this after the last debate, to make sure it headed off the Comey bullshit (or any other Oct surprise) and kept the media/Trump lighting each other on fire, while Hillary could just then talked about a positive vision and her policies. That is how you beat him, it really is that simple, and I'm surprised the strategists on our side haven't understood this by now. If they did we'd be up by 10+ points and the senate would be a sure thing.
PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)It's pretty amazing that the things that are already out there aren't enough to disqualify this fucking asshole. This thing shouldn't even be close.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)I mean, even the pussy-grab tape came from outside the Clinton organization.
michiganman1019
(45 posts).. that something was going to come out.
Tuesday (yesterday), I must've refreshed DU over 40 times to catch the breaking news that didn't come.
Now I am pessimistic that there will be any release at all.
If, by some small chance there is , it will have to be a) be strong enough to affect headlines and b) be enough to effect voters who haven't voted already.
NeverDump
(32 posts)At 3pm PT. Lisa Bloom is her attorney.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/11/02/trump-child-rape-accuser-to-speak-today.html?via=mobile&source=copyurl
This could be nuclear.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)So don't plan on it, but who knows.
If there is something out there, whoever has it has to time it perfectly to give it time to hit peak cycle in the news, without giving the Trump team adequate time to mount a major response.
radius777
(3,635 posts)or at least of of them that he talked about? Is there another story, one that the media will actually cover?
Unfortunately Comey/FBI threw water on the spy story, which is a much bigger story than anything about the emails/wiki and all the other shit the media is smearing H with.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)It has to do with sex/rape/abortion.
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Although I don't know what a Republican would consider bigger than rape. There was a second tweet Fri a Liz she hinedvat something to do with NDA Don't know if these are just hot air or not. Said it wouldn't be coming until Friday
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)nt
DLCWIdem
(1,580 posts)Non disclosure agreements. Remember one of Trumps campaign managers tweeted something about his NDA.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)But the child rape accuser is having a press conference in a few hours and that's going to be pretty devastating.
radius777
(3,635 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I'm absolutely convinced that Obama would pardon an IRS employee who leaked them.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)like pu**ygate.
I mean look at all the horrible shit on drumpf already that the news media doesn't report on.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Save the best for last. It will be re sex.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)considering the number of big stories that have come out on Fridays this year that gained traction through the saturday and sunday news shows. If nothing comes out by Friday afternoon then I'd say they have nothing. Since the last game of the world series is tonight, they may wait and get a jump on the weekend by dropping something tomorrow.
radius777
(3,635 posts)dumps that aren't election related or don't take place close to an election, that the media really won't cover, are indeed dumped on friday so it won't be covered.
but (as you stated) the opposite is true on fridays during elections especially close to election day. because the media then goes wild with the story (see: Access hw tape, Comey, etc) and the opponent doesn't have much a opportunity to respond, lots of offices closed, people away, etc. And it gets covered all weekend while voters are home looking at tv.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)He won't be able to keep quiet about that. No siree.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)This could really be something huge, especially if she provides a lot of details. How awful for her and brave that she's going public.
(I'm assuming she's telling the truth, although I understand innocent until proven guilty).
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)I watched the lawyer of a young woman, who accused FSU quarterback Jameis Winston of rape, give a press conference a few years ago. (The lawyer was the accuser's aunt.)
The press conference looked so unprofessional that FSU football fans, and other people, were "laughing" about it on forums.
It didn't have that effect on me, but a good presentation can make a big difference to some people.
radius777
(3,635 posts)and disparaging his supporters, saying that he is mainly just putting on an act? That was brought up in the GOP primaries, his opponents kept saying that such a tape exists, and it should be released, etc.
Rick Wilson has also hinted the Oct surprise would damage Trump with his base.
If that exists and is leaked, that would be yyuuge, bigly, would expose Trump as just playing a role like the reality tv con-man he is.