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Is another devastating anti-Trump oppo dump coming? (Original Post) musicblind Nov 2016 OP
Nah. Agschmid Nov 2016 #1
Agree Agschmid .... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #34
Nope. Too late for both sides. Now it's all get out the vote yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #2
Well, our GOTV opperation is outstanding. musicblind Nov 2016 #11
Nice! That is great!!!! We want NC!!!! yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #22
I hope NastyWomen Nov 2016 #3
I think the only justification for waiting a bit longer is the World Series. musicblind Nov 2016 #12
Can you imagine? Dems release some devastating info just as louis-t Nov 2016 #36
Every few days there has been one, so odds favor several more, or several in a day. Coyotl Nov 2016 #4
People are already voting. onecaliberal Nov 2016 #5
I'm starting to lose hope that anything else will come out... sarae Nov 2016 #6
Well, they waited until the Friday before the election to drop the George Bush DUI story. musicblind Nov 2016 #13
Sides are set. SouthernProgressive Nov 2016 #8
Changing the media narrative would be great, even if it doesn't change many minds. musicblind Nov 2016 #14
I wish there would be. musicblind Nov 2016 #9
I don't even care about trying to effect Trashy Trump's support I would just like the narrative TrekLuver Nov 2016 #10
I don't think anything can change his hardcore supporters. musicblind Nov 2016 #16
After the pussy grabbing I asked my co-worker what is it going to take for you to abandon this TrekLuver Nov 2016 #20
The woman he raped when she was 13 is speaking publicly today NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #26
OMG yes I just saw...I'll make sure to leave work on time TrekLuver Nov 2016 #54
exactly, to change the media coverage/narrative radius777 Nov 2016 #25
Hopefully tonight will do just that !! TrekLuver Nov 2016 #56
if the MSM cover this today, this might be a November surprise ... napkinz Nov 2016 #15
Holy crap! How could they NOT cover that? musicblind Nov 2016 #17
how? napkinz Nov 2016 #24
This is kind of the big deal I was expecting Dem2 Nov 2016 #38
yes it's serious napkinz Nov 2016 #46
Could be. But don't rely on it. GOTV. DLCWIdem Nov 2016 #18
I've been expecting nothing Awsi Dooger Nov 2016 #19
There are several stories out there and I'm suprised radius777 Nov 2016 #21
The goal would not be to damage him...it would need to be to get him to rise to the bait. brooklynite Nov 2016 #23
Right! cilla4progress Nov 2016 #31
exactly, and get the media to cover it radius777 Nov 2016 #33
No, it would have come Saturday. PeteSelman Nov 2016 #27
When was the first? regnaD kciN Nov 2016 #28
At first I was optimistic and hopeful.. michiganman1019 Nov 2016 #29
Plaintiff in child rape suit has a press conf today NeverDump Nov 2016 #30
I don't know if the Rick Wilson fairy will come or not bluestateguy Nov 2016 #32
was the MotherJones Russian spy story the Rick Wilson thing? radius777 Nov 2016 #39
No it isn't. bluestateguy Nov 2016 #41
No not rape. He hinted at something bigger DLCWIdem Nov 2016 #57
What is MEA? bluestateguy Nov 2016 #58
Sorry corrected the post. NDA DLCWIdem Nov 2016 #59
I'm surprised there hasn't been more about Trump's alleged ties to the mob. Metric System Nov 2016 #35
Nope budkin Nov 2016 #37
if the media covers it. /nt radius777 Nov 2016 #40
Can't believe no one leaked his tax returns Thrill Nov 2016 #42
There is still time for that. bluestateguy Nov 2016 #44
It would have to be something on audio or video workinclasszero Nov 2016 #43
Yes. One more. Tomorrow at the latest. Fahrenthold451 Nov 2016 #45
looks like it's TODAY ... napkinz Nov 2016 #48
The media likes to claim Friday news dumps "bury" the story, but the opposite is clearly true bushisanidiot Nov 2016 #47
true and not true radius777 Nov 2016 #53
Just in: The woman who claims Donald raped her at 13 goes public later this afternoon. Avalux Nov 2016 #49
yep, another member just posted ... napkinz Nov 2016 #50
It's a really serious accusation too, compounded since the woman was a CHILD at the time. Avalux Nov 2016 #52
I hope that she sounds credible. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #55
could it be the NYT tape of him saying he isn't building the wall, radius777 Nov 2016 #51

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
11. Well, our GOTV opperation is outstanding.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:45 PM
Nov 2016

I held a Halloween event at a gay club in Charlotte, NC. We had workers come in and hand out stickers. We had an official surrogate, local Transsexual activist Candis Cox, come in and give a speech to the crowd. I feel like our GOTV is dwarfing Trumps at the moment.

 

NastyWomen

(119 posts)
3. I hope
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:09 PM
Nov 2016

They saved the best for last. It would ease my nerves a lot, but I don't get the logic in waiting any longer. If they have it, use it now!

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
12. I think the only justification for waiting a bit longer is the World Series.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:47 PM
Nov 2016

That ends tonight.

If something doesn't come out either Thursday or Friday... then there is nothing left to come out.

Maybe our outstanding GOTV effort will be the real November surprise.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
6. I'm starting to lose hope that anything else will come out...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:26 PM
Nov 2016

but maybe they're waiting until the last minute.

As someone else said, a lot of people have already voted. If a never-Trumper reading this is sitting on something explosive – release it now, PLEASE!

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
13. Well, they waited until the Friday before the election to drop the George Bush DUI story.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:48 PM
Nov 2016

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll drop something this Friday?

I'm not counting on it. I think we've got this regardless... but it would still be nice.

 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
8. Sides are set.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:31 PM
Nov 2016

I have no clue what could come out that would deter the remainder of the deplorables from voting Trump. I also can't imagine anything that would come out that would stop the media from trashing Clinton.

Lets play off of an old trump line, with a bit of expansion.

If Trump were to shoot a black man in the streets of NY, not only would he not lose any votes, the media would savage the deceased and Trump would be put up for sainthood.

Trump has his supporters. They are set at this point. I don't see how anything could hurt him. This is the true face of the republican party.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
14. Changing the media narrative would be great, even if it doesn't change many minds.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:49 PM
Nov 2016

Though you're probably right... they so desperately want their horse race.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
9. I wish there would be.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:42 PM
Nov 2016

Even though I feel fairly confident that we are going to win the presidency... I wish there was one last story that could sink Trump for good... not just from winning this election, but from ever showing his face in public again.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
10. I don't even care about trying to effect Trashy Trump's support I would just like the narrative
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:44 PM
Nov 2016

to change.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
16. I don't think anything can change his hardcore supporters.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:52 PM
Nov 2016

Those supporters are mentally damaged. You can't help someone who is mentally damaged.

But I do think a change in the media narrative might add an extra point or two to Hillary's win. Maybe an extra seat on the Senate (Hopefully Burr will be kicked out).

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
20. After the pussy grabbing I asked my co-worker what is it going to take for you to abandon this
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:58 PM
Nov 2016

Trashbag? And he said child molestation. So I came back with oh so assaulting women isn't good enough huh?

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
26. The woman he raped when she was 13 is speaking publicly today
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:19 PM
Nov 2016

And she has witnesses...including one who actually SAW the rape/s.

3PM pacific time with Lisa Bloom

radius777

(3,635 posts)
25. exactly, to change the media coverage/narrative
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:16 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:54 PM - Edit history (1)

and get the focus back on Trump and his ugly ways, unfitness for office, clear and present danger to democracy, etc.

also its about undecided/independent/moderate voters, not Trump's hardcore support, which is not going to be affected by much of anything at this point. neither base will be. its the undecideds/ind/mods that are.

because Trump (imo) being the alt-right neonazi thug he is, having hired Bannon/Stone and other low-lifes, and with the support of Putin/Wiki, will likely have something else to dump (even if it's mostly bullshit, just as the Comey thing is) on us, which is why we must be ready with our own dumps and/or effective defense.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
17. Holy crap! How could they NOT cover that?
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:54 PM
Nov 2016

If this were a Clinton accuser, you know it would receive 24/7 coverage.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
18. Could be. But don't rely on it. GOTV.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:54 PM
Nov 2016

Rick Wilson, a never Trump Republican strategist and campaigner for Evan McMullen Utah Indie candidate (you know the one that means Trump could lose Utah), hinted on twitter early in the week that there would be a Dump on Friday. Merely teasing or really know something? Your guess as good as mine. Edited on Review of previous post. WILSON HINTED AT SOMETHING NOT SEXUAL.SO THE RAPE CASE IS NOT IT.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
19. I've been expecting nothing
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 02:57 PM
Nov 2016

I still expect nothing.

You have to step back and evaluate the big picture. In a typical cycle we wouldn't be anticipating anything at this stage. Trump may be bizarre and dangerous and unhinged and everything else, but it still doesn't move the probability needle enough to make a late surprise more likely than not.

Apparently a few people on cable shows and twitter took advantage of the desire for more material, implying that it was inevitable.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
21. There are several stories out there and I'm suprised
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:10 PM
Nov 2016

they didn't drop something on him after the last debate (in anticipation of Comey's bullshit, to drown it out), the way they did with the Machado story after the first debate.

Ones I can think of off the top of my head:

Trump Model Agency sweatshop - women may've been illegally brought in from eastern Euro countries, not paid, ill-treated, all slept in one apartment, advised to lie to customs. Ugly story consistent with Trump's misogyny, and speaks to hypocrisy about trade/immigration.

Trump inheritance battle - where he allegedly cut off the health insurance of a sick nephew/child to spite the brother/relative (i don't remember exact details). But it is a ugly story that is consistent with Trump's vindictiveness.

Trump alleged rape of his ex-wife Ivana. - iirc, this was alleged in the divorce battle.

Trump aleged rape of 13yo girl at sex party (not sure this one has enough substantiation for the news to cover it).

radius777

(3,635 posts)
33. exactly, and get the media to cover it
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:24 PM
Nov 2016

that is the clear pattern, if something is introduced, such as Judge Curiel, Khans, Machado, etc that hits at Trump's ego, and the media is forced to cover it - Trump can't resist taking the bait, thus he sets himself on fire and dances around like a crazed clown.

Can't believe our side didn't do this after the last debate, to make sure it headed off the Comey bullshit (or any other Oct surprise) and kept the media/Trump lighting each other on fire, while Hillary could just then talked about a positive vision and her policies. That is how you beat him, it really is that simple, and I'm surprised the strategists on our side haven't understood this by now. If they did we'd be up by 10+ points and the senate would be a sure thing.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
27. No, it would have come Saturday.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:19 PM
Nov 2016

It's pretty amazing that the things that are already out there aren't enough to disqualify this fucking asshole. This thing shouldn't even be close.

michiganman1019

(45 posts)
29. At first I was optimistic and hopeful..
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:22 PM
Nov 2016

.. that something was going to come out.

Tuesday (yesterday), I must've refreshed DU over 40 times to catch the breaking news that didn't come.

Now I am pessimistic that there will be any release at all.

If, by some small chance there is , it will have to be a) be strong enough to affect headlines and b) be enough to effect voters who haven't voted already.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
32. I don't know if the Rick Wilson fairy will come or not
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:23 PM
Nov 2016

So don't plan on it, but who knows.

If there is something out there, whoever has it has to time it perfectly to give it time to hit peak cycle in the news, without giving the Trump team adequate time to mount a major response.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
39. was the MotherJones Russian spy story the Rick Wilson thing?
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:29 PM
Nov 2016

or at least of of them that he talked about? Is there another story, one that the media will actually cover?

Unfortunately Comey/FBI threw water on the spy story, which is a much bigger story than anything about the emails/wiki and all the other shit the media is smearing H with.

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
57. No not rape. He hinted at something bigger
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:20 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Although I don't know what a Republican would consider bigger than rape. There was a second tweet Fri a Liz she hinedvat something to do with NDA Don't know if these are just hot air or not. Said it wouldn't be coming until Friday

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
59. Sorry corrected the post. NDA
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:18 PM
Nov 2016

Non disclosure agreements. Remember one of Trumps campaign managers tweeted something about his NDA.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
37. Nope
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:27 PM
Nov 2016

But the child rape accuser is having a press conference in a few hours and that's going to be pretty devastating.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
44. There is still time for that.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:33 PM
Nov 2016

I'm absolutely convinced that Obama would pardon an IRS employee who leaked them.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
43. It would have to be something on audio or video
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:33 PM
Nov 2016

like pu**ygate.

I mean look at all the horrible shit on drumpf already that the news media doesn't report on.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
47. The media likes to claim Friday news dumps "bury" the story, but the opposite is clearly true
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:40 PM
Nov 2016

considering the number of big stories that have come out on Fridays this year that gained traction through the saturday and sunday news shows. If nothing comes out by Friday afternoon then I'd say they have nothing. Since the last game of the world series is tonight, they may wait and get a jump on the weekend by dropping something tomorrow.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
53. true and not true
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:50 PM
Nov 2016

dumps that aren't election related or don't take place close to an election, that the media really won't cover, are indeed dumped on friday so it won't be covered.

but (as you stated) the opposite is true on fridays during elections especially close to election day. because the media then goes wild with the story (see: Access hw tape, Comey, etc) and the opponent doesn't have much a opportunity to respond, lots of offices closed, people away, etc. And it gets covered all weekend while voters are home looking at tv.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
49. Just in: The woman who claims Donald raped her at 13 goes public later this afternoon.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:44 PM
Nov 2016

He won't be able to keep quiet about that. No siree.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
52. It's a really serious accusation too, compounded since the woman was a CHILD at the time.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:48 PM
Nov 2016

This could really be something huge, especially if she provides a lot of details. How awful for her and brave that she's going public.

(I'm assuming she's telling the truth, although I understand innocent until proven guilty).

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
55. I hope that she sounds credible.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:01 PM
Nov 2016

I watched the lawyer of a young woman, who accused FSU quarterback Jameis Winston of rape, give a press conference a few years ago. (The lawyer was the accuser's aunt.)

The press conference looked so unprofessional that FSU football fans, and other people, were "laughing" about it on forums.

It didn't have that effect on me, but a good presentation can make a big difference to some people.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
51. could it be the NYT tape of him saying he isn't building the wall,
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 03:45 PM
Nov 2016

and disparaging his supporters, saying that he is mainly just putting on an act? That was brought up in the GOP primaries, his opponents kept saying that such a tape exists, and it should be released, etc.

Rick Wilson has also hinted the Oct surprise would damage Trump with his base.

If that exists and is leaked, that would be yyuuge, bigly, would expose Trump as just playing a role like the reality tv con-man he is.


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