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Is the country still moving to the right, or have we finally made a turn to the left ? (Original Post) steve2470 Dec 2012 OP
I think we are in a holding pattern to be honest... WCGreen Dec 2012 #1
good point, yes nt steve2470 Dec 2012 #2
I agree. We may have slowed the rightward march IDoMath Dec 2012 #3
I agree. BlueDemKev Dec 2012 #5
I think the momentum agent46 Dec 2012 #4
They'll find a way to go Right. blkmusclmachine Dec 2012 #6
president obama's caving on the fiscal cliff signals a continued rightward course. Mel Content Dec 2012 #7
Um, no. We NEVER move to the left. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #8
I don't think anything is that neatly definable. CBHagman Dec 2012 #9

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
1. I think we are in a holding pattern to be honest...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:37 PM
Dec 2012

It all depends on what happens in 2014 and 2016...

We could go either way.

 

IDoMath

(404 posts)
3. I agree. We may have slowed the rightward march
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:47 PM
Dec 2012

but I don't think it's stopped. We certainly aren't moving left yet.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
4. I think the momentum
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 07:56 PM
Dec 2012

I think the momentum is still very much to the right. Obama has taken a stand on a few social issues such as gay marriage, women's rights in the workplace and other problems that don't really impact or address the aggressive corporatist foreign policies and corporate friendly domestic posture of his administration.

The outcome of this new gun debate will be interesting. Will it bring in greater law and order measures across the states? Will it serve to further polarize an already propaganda sick public? The gun control debate could bring us more to the right with greater police powers and a new surveillance state "normal" to protect us from the bad people. It all depends on who gets to frame the debate. The right-wing has been pretty good at that at least since the eighties. The Left not so much.

 

Mel Content

(123 posts)
7. president obama's caving on the fiscal cliff signals a continued rightward course.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:24 AM
Dec 2012

money talks,
progressives walk.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
8. Um, no. We NEVER move to the left.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:39 AM
Dec 2012

We're moving to the right at a slower pace is all. Watch how we get fucked in the coming "grand bargain" or whatever they decide to call it.

Imagine if we acted as if we won the election. Imagine if the elected people actually gave a shit what we wanted instead of the owners. All you can do is imagine it because it is never going to happen.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
9. I don't think anything is that neatly definable.
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:47 AM
Dec 2012

There are too many factors involved -- political affiliation (generally slightly more than one-third Democratic, about one-third Republican, one-third independent), the 24/7 news cycle and the influence of social media, demographics, immigration, and a lot more.

I think the influence of the media, with its overuse of polls and its tendency towards employing cognitive distortions, skews people's view of reality.

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