Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:22 PM Feb 2013

Revive The Threat Of Filibuster Reform, Harry Reid

Harry Reid announced this morning that he will proceed with a vote tomorrow on Chuck Hagel’s nomination as defense secretary, even as Republicans have indicated that they will proceed with the filibuster of the nominee. Meanwhile, Sam Stein reports that Democrats are just short of the votes to overcome the filibuster.

If this isn’t enough to get Reid to revive the threat of filibuster reform, nothing will be enough.

Hagel’s fate remains unclear. Philip Klein reports today that Senate Republicans are divided into several camps; while some of them are prepared to filibuster him, others are on the fence. Those in the latter group profess to be frustrated by the administration’s supposed lack of disclosure on the Benghazi story, but could vote for cloture, anyway. According to Klein, “There is concern within the Republican caucus about the precedent that would be set by filibustering a cabinet nominee.” That’s good to hear, but still, these Senators may oppose him.So Hagel could go down.

--CLIP
Look, we should have seen this all coming. Indeed, Jonathan Bernstein did see it coming, noting recently that GOP conduct throughout Obama’s first term clearly suggested the likelihood that Dems would need 60 votes to get Hagel confirmed. And here we are.

I don’t know how this is going to play out, but if Hagel does go down, it’s hard to imagine anything happening that makes as eloquent a case for Reid and Democrats revisiting filibuster reform than this affair will have done. Remember, the watered down filibuster reform deal Reid agreed to was at least partly premised on the idea that both sides were at least somewhat committed to ending some of the abuses that rendered the Senate dysfunctional during Obama’s first term. We now see that Republicans are making a mockery of that arrangement. This goes well beyond Hagel; as always, it goes to the question of whether we are going to have a functional Senate.

MORE...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/02/14/revive-the-threat-of-filibuster-reform-harry-reid/

11 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Revive The Threat Of Filibuster Reform, Harry Reid (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
I believe that this ship done sailed demwing Feb 2013 #1
What is this 'nuclear option' I've heard about in the past regarding the filibuster? eom Purveyor Feb 2013 #8
You can't have a gentlemen's agreement riqster Feb 2013 #2
Bingo /nt think Feb 2013 #3
Harry fucked up. He believed the Republicans. TeamPooka Feb 2013 #4
No, he didn't. brooklynite Feb 2013 #7
Well, that is when you threaten to strip their committee memberships, Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #11
Too late. Light House Feb 2013 #5
He'd Need 67 Votes... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #6
Rec'd. Yes, revisit this puppy; the rethugs reneged, as was babylonsister Feb 2013 #9
It's Reid and certain Dems' fault that this is happening. Third Doctor Feb 2013 #10

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
7. No, he didn't.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:00 PM
Feb 2013

I spoke to him about this last year. He knows he got burned in 2011, and wanted to change the rules. He didn't have the Democratic votes to do it, and the Whips don't have the influence that they do in the House.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
11. Well, that is when you threaten to strip their committee memberships,
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:44 PM
Feb 2013

not allow their votes on the floor and basically threaten to make their constituents hate their ass. This is politics. If you do not have the votes, you TAKE the damned votes. We need a little more Don Corelone and a little fucking less Don Rickles.

 

Light House

(413 posts)
5. Too late.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:49 PM
Feb 2013

The new rules have already been approved and they can't be changed until a new Senate is seated.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
6. He'd Need 67 Votes...
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:50 PM
Feb 2013

...to change the rules now. Taint gonna happen...

Shame on the 9 Democratic Senators that prevented the talking filibuster rule....not that it would have made any difference, the rushpublicans are hellbent on making Washington as dysfunctional as possible.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
10. It's Reid and certain Dems' fault that this is happening.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:26 PM
Feb 2013

I can't see anything meaningful getting done in the senate or house anytime soon.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Revive The Threat Of Fili...