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Meanwhile in Great Britain, the Labour Party is on its way back! (Original Post) Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 OP
Yay! shenmue May 2014 #1
I hope I can hold out until then Prophet 451 May 2014 #2
The country should be brought to a standstill and the Tories and their LibDem poodles ousted Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #3
This is what I never understood from an American standpoint. Chan790 May 2014 #4
The LibDems could have hooked up with Labour Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #5
The Liberals are a centrist party, ideologically between Labour and the Tories Hippo_Tron May 2014 #15
Ah, so that Nick Clegg fellow everyone in America heard about Arkana May 2014 #16
Anti-immigrant UKIP on the rise too flamingdem May 2014 #6
I remember the days of Enoch Powell Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #7
Unfortunately it's looking like Ukip are going to get the most overall votes. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #8
The European elections are always weird Rosa Luxemburg May 2014 #9
True Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #10
Who's "counting" the votes for the NeoNazis?!?! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #11
Is this Neo-pre-Blair Labour? Tom Ripley May 2014 #12
I wouldn't be holding my breath for them to reinstate Clause IV anytime soon. Spider Jerusalem May 2014 #14
It seems to me that no matter which of these parties are in power things go in the same direction TheKentuckian May 2014 #13
Your confidence is misplaced. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #17

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
2. I hope I can hold out until then
Sun May 25, 2014, 07:40 AM
May 2014

I'm disabled, physically near crippled and mentally wildly unstable. This bunch of vandals has not only slashed my benefits by several hundred pounds a year (because they've imposed rules that we must pay 30% of the council tax as well), they've imposed the harshest disability test in the world and they and their media catamites (I'm bisexual, I'm allowed to say that) have also trained the public to hate me as a workshy scrounger.

I have to walk with crutches these days and my mental state flips on a dime. In the space of an hour, I can go from more-or-less functional, to sobbing hysterics, to carving my arms up with razors, to screaming at the voices only I can hear, to hysterical sobbing again because by now, the visions have started. And I can feel that hate from the public. I can feel their view of me as someone who could just snap out of it if I wanted to. And the disability test, I don't even know how to describe the kind of terror that causes in me. I think I may have managed to avoid it this year because when it last came up for renewal, my SO and my doctor both said they feared for my life whenever I was reassessed.

Forgive the rant. I've had to avoid domestic news entirely for over a year now. I voted LibDem last time and bitterly regret it since they sold us out by propping up this sociopathic pack of savages. Labour aren't perfect, Lord knows, but they aren't actively evil.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
3. The country should be brought to a standstill and the Tories and their LibDem poodles ousted
Sun May 25, 2014, 01:49 PM
May 2014

all out strikes. Clean out the Tories. Hopefully the pendulum has swung enough to the left by now.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
4. This is what I never understood from an American standpoint.
Sun May 25, 2014, 02:33 PM
May 2014

(So I'll ask because I'm probably not the only one.)

Why on Earth would either the Liberals or the Labour ever coalition with the Tories? That'd be like the Greens or Working Families, in the states where they're the difference in the state legislature...throwing in their lot with the GOP. What do they get out of it that they wouldn't get out of coalition with the other left-of-center party? (Parties?)

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
15. The Liberals are a centrist party, ideologically between Labour and the Tories
Mon May 26, 2014, 10:19 PM
May 2014

We get the false impression of them being generally to the left of Labour, because they opposed the Iraq War while Tony Blair was kissing Bush's ass. That was an exception to the rule, not the rule.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
16. Ah, so that Nick Clegg fellow everyone in America heard about
Tue May 27, 2014, 08:55 AM
May 2014

wasn't really some paragon of liberalism.

I dunno. Brits always say they don't understand American politics, but British politics aren't easy either. How do you keep track of all those parties?

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
6. Anti-immigrant UKIP on the rise too
Sun May 25, 2014, 03:39 PM
May 2014
http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-blog/culture-war-crisis-mainstream-politics/831

The culture war behind the crisis of mainstream politics

As the local election results are still coming in, some commentators are calling it a “political earthquake”. But the facts are more complex. Whatever seismic metaphor we use, I think its tectonic causes are cultural and – unlike mere politics – irreversible.

- See more at: http://blogs.channel4.com/paul-mason-blog/culture-war-crisis-mainstream-politics/831#sthash.Ldh6LKog.jnkFPMCY.dpuf
 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
8. Unfortunately it's looking like Ukip are going to get the most overall votes.
Sun May 25, 2014, 06:58 PM
May 2014

The Lib Dems appear to be facing a rout (on the current trend it's very possible not a single one of their MEPs will be returned); Labour are looking like having the most seats after the next election, but I wouldn't bet on a majority at this point (it may end up with a hung Parliament and a Labour minority government).

Disaffected Lib Dems seem to be turning back to Labour (a lot of people wouldn't have voted for the Lib Dems at the last general election if they'd known they'd be getting a Tory government out of it), and disaffected voters on the Tory right seem to be turning to Ukip (mostly thanks to anti-EU and anti-immigrant sentiment).

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
9. The European elections are always weird
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:06 PM
May 2014

not really any indication of what will happen next British General Election

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
10. True
Sun May 25, 2014, 09:20 PM
May 2014

Ukip came second in the last EU elections and only managed 3% a year later, and not one MP at Westminster.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
14. I wouldn't be holding my breath for them to reinstate Clause IV anytime soon.
Mon May 26, 2014, 02:57 PM
May 2014

(Clause IV was the bit in the Labour Party constitution calling for collective ownership of the means of production by workers, by the way.)

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
13. It seems to me that no matter which of these parties are in power things go in the same direction
Mon May 26, 2014, 08:52 AM
May 2014

Starting to seem that way everywhere, what we "small people" get to vote for is rhetoric and a face. The controls are locked in on the center of the sun.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
17. Your confidence is misplaced.
Thu May 29, 2014, 05:01 PM
May 2014

Labour is a little way ahead in most polls, partway through an electoral cycle at the point where the Tories are probably at their lowest ebb.

It's not unlikely that Labour will win the next election, but it's far from certain.

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