2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Supreme Court’s Next Gay Marriage Ruling Will Come Sooner Than You Think
By Mark Joseph SternOn Wednesday, Utahs attorney general announced that he would forgo an en banc review of his states mortally wounded and comically indefensible gay marriage ban, instead appealing the case directly to the Supreme Court. His last-minute maneuvering means that the high court is quite likely to hear the case next termand have an opportunity to strike down every state marriage ban in the country.
All this talk about en banc reviews might sound too arcane and tedious to befit such a major development. But really, this is a simple and savvy move on Utahs part, at once a convenient shortcut and a bit of a Hail Mary pass. Utahs marriage ban is already on the thinnest of legal ice: Last month, a three-judge panel on the 10th Circuit affirmed a lower-court ruling striking down the states marriage ban as a violation of the 14th Amendment. Because that panel represented only a fraction of the 10th Circuit as a whole, Utah has the right to appeal the ruling to all the judges of the circuit. (The judges can, of course, turn down an en banc request.)
But such an appeal would surely take monthsmonths during which several more states and circuit courts are certain to strike down more marriage laws, making Utahs argument seem even more archaic. (In fact, shortly after Utah announced its decision to forgo en banc review, its next-door neighbor Colorado saw its own gay marriage ban fall.) The appeal would also constitute a total waste of time, since everybody knows this issue must ultimately be resolved by the Supreme Court. So instead of wasting time, money, and paperwork on a half-measure, the state is taking its case directly to the justices doorsteps.
In an ideal world, Utahs conservative governor and attorney general would simply give up on their states marriage ban, as did Pennsylvanias Republican governor. But failing that, theyve landed on the second-best optionlet this absurd piece of codified bigotry die a speedy death. At this late date, its hard to believe that anyone in Utah actually thinks the states marriage ban can survive the Supreme Courts review. Those few remaining holdouts, however, had better brace themselves: The state just brought its own law straight to the executioners door.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/07/10/the_supreme_court_will_rule_on_gay_marriage_again_soon.html?
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)That would uphold the current decision tossing the ban and pretty much all of the other bans.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Roberts, Alito, Uncle Thomas and, most especially, Scalia. That last Justice can author some of the most hateful decisions about the LGBT community
longship
(40,416 posts)So the PA anti-LBGT marriage law is dead.
Seems like Alito would not be agreeing with Scalia on this issue.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Who appealed it?
May 21, 2014
More good news out of Pennsylvania, which just saw its gay marriage ban overturned by Rick Santorum-endorsed U.S. District Judge John E. Jones: Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett has declined to appeal the ruling, opining that:
The case is extremely unlikely to succeed on appeal. Therefore, after review of the opinion and on the advice of my commonwealth legal team, I have decided not to appeal.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/05/21/pennsylvania_governor_declines_to_defend_marriage_ban.html
longship
(40,416 posts)who is the Supreme for that district, to intervene. He said, "no."
Posted here yesterday a couple of times.
Here's a link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=842823
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Damn, I don't know how I missed that. Thanks again. I still can't envision the Supremes not saying anything but, it's very possible.
SM Kovalinsky
(6 posts)Right, Alito and Kennedy both might side with the liberals and not Scalia et al.
longship
(40,416 posts)Gay marriage bans are deader than a Perdue chicken.
It is inevitable.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)to resist the urge to whack all of those "deviants".
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)they will lose what little credibility they have left.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)right?
(closely held) companies now have "religious rights"?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I walked right into that one.
SM Kovalinsky
(6 posts)Just curious, how do you see this happening in light of his Windsor ruling?
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)SM Kovalinsky
(6 posts)Kennedy on Windsor vote with the liberals. Why would he change this now?
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)with the liberals on that case, this decision in the fall is big for the GOP. "Too big to fail" for the Republicans might be a way to put it.
longship
(40,416 posts)Just the other day.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014842823
So I disagree with your opinion.